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Church Leadership and Reconciliation

live. Welcome to Harley Initiated. It is your host Tyan Jackson in the building with my co-host Ryan Catches. Hey, listen. It's been a minute. It's been like three months since we've been live. And uh it's I mean, it couldn't be a better way to bring it back. It could not be a better way to bring it back. For those of you who don't know, big shout out to my sister Terka Lynn Smith. We got TCP popping off this weekend here. Yeah. And the powerful prophetist herself is in the building in the city of Atlanta. And could it be at a better time? Okay. No, cuz seriously, and you know what's crazy is I'm not even sure if I reminded you about this, but remember this is a year anniversary, right? Remember last summer? Yeah. June is when we popped off the War Ready series. That is a wild crazy. So last year, and and by the way, man, if you don't know, you got to know. If you know about the War Ready series, go ahead and type me in the chat. But it was some real warfare popping off on Hardly Initiated. Some real stuff went down. Tiff was here and now she's back. So it's some it's something about this season right now. It's something about this season. But if you don't know what's going on, we about to get into it. It's about to be a powerful conversation, an important conversation. So everybody, please help me welcome Tiffany Montgomery to the platform. Welcome back to Thank you for having me back. Absolutely. Fourth time. Thank you. Yes. Yes. I mean, are we are we not the boldest platform in the world? Yeah. I mean, we we got to be we got to be. I mean, this this is according to the vision and uh we just can't escape this one. I mean, it's a big conversation. We was I was glued to your live last night. Want to get some insight into exactly what was going on, exactly what was happening. M so fortunately you happen to be in Atlanta and able to join us on the platform because we just got to get some more detail. We got to get some insight and uh yeah I mean we got to get into the conversation. Absolutely. So before we all get into it, I want to announce this is our first time live. I'm so excited y'all. We took some time off. We took a sabbatical. You know we talked to uh we talked to each other. We planned, we strategized. We talked to God. Man, we really felt like we were called for for quite some time to build and launch this um uh high life community. And guys, the high life community is here and it is ready. We currently have about 85 incredible members in the community here. 85 founders. So over the past week, we got about 85 members. They are excited, enthusiastic about uh really getting this thing up. I mean, we're excited about running the bag up, getting the health right, getting that spiritual transformation, and uh really blessed to have people who really truly rock with us and and want to grow holistically, guys. And this month is fight the flesh. So, y'all see who over here rocking with us, man. We got Ezekiel in here with us, Tiffany, Enrique, Pascal, Will Jackson, Tiffany Buckner. so many incredible people we've had on the uh on the show in the past is going to be a part of this community and it's going to be some it's already been some huge transformations happening. So, if you want to be a part of the high life community, the link is in the description for you to join um this movement that we have and this incredible community of believers all around the country. Even we got some in the UK, I should say around the world here joining us, you know, on um you know, this uh uh really journey together. So, much love to everybody in the high life. We love you guys and uh we going to see you guys very soon. Yeah. So I mean I really want to get the conversation started tip because uh you know it's been some bold accusations made you know against you know you um from false prophet to which so you know in my experience and you know cuz people people love to approach us in private and they're like hey what do you think about this person what do you think about that person and of course I only share my experience and from attending a couple of cover by guides to all of the many women especially especially that have approached us both men and women who have approached to say, "Hey, not only did I found you guys when Tiffany showed up on the platform once I was introduced to Tiffany, it really helped me change my life." And I've talked to countless people who have said that. So, of course, everything that I got to say is always, "Oh, yeah, Tiffany, she's excellent." But then, you know, past couple days been a little tricky because you got some prominent I consider prominent figures in the Christian community. A brother uh Dr. Dr. Eric Mason who we haven't had the pleasure of having on the platform but we have had people who I would say kind of he's the OG comes from their camp to bless the platform with some very wise counsel and some transformation and he' been asked by many of the people to you to come on the platform as well. Yeah. He made a very bold claim and uh which I to be honest I was disappointed by and he says hey you know on live his live platform says Tiffany McGomery is a witch. How did you feel when you know you were shared that information? Two things. First of all, I've been called worse by better, right? So, there's not too much I felt about that because there's been other words that I've been called. And the second thing I want everybody to understand is that people don't necessarily want to call me a witch. They actually want to just put the B- word uh and replace it with the W word. They can't do that. Let me tell you something. I 10,000% agree. Tan, was that not my statements? Yeah, that's what Ryan said. Call me that. Because if you call if you if you call you the the B- word, then the onus is on them. Why would you call her that? That's correct. But if you call her a witch and then now you find scripture. That's just the Christian version of calling somebody the bi. Absolutely. Absolutely. With that being said, I don't know him. I've never met him before. I've never listened to a sermon of his. Uh I have never heard anything he is saying. So, while you're saying all of those things about him being an OG, um I know him uh to be a fool according to scripture. Um I know him to be a false witness according to Proverbs 19. And I know him to be a liar. Um and so I judge people by their fruits. Uh and more importantly, I have learned to judge people by their roots. And uh his fruits and his roots are rotten. There is no way that you can be allegedly an established leader in the body of Christ and have launched such a grandiose accusation against someone with the reasons that you've launched those accusations. He said I was a witch. I I actually didn't even know he stood on his pullpit on Sunday and called me a witch by name. Said Tiffany Montgomery is a witch. He stood in God's pull pit assuming that God built that church which I do not believe. Um, I believe it was a man-made church and things of that nature, but he stood on that platform and said, "Tiffany Montgomery is a witch on Sunday on that pull pit." What god do you fear that you would say that about somebody? He also gave reasons why I was a witch. She says vulgar things about men's body parts, but everybody knows that you're a part of a brotherhood who is known for same-sex attraction. They're known for uh gay activities, you understand? So, I know that you're not mad that I used the word dic dict. Um, and there's no testimony of you hearing me saying that more than once or twice years ago. Number two, he says, "I'm a witch because I have no accountability and I have no authority." Um, I would like to say to that, nobody can say I just couldn't believe he said that. I am full of accountability. Um, I am I am surrounded by accountability. Always have been. And uh, he made a claim that I didn't have a covering. But my question is, when he got his ordination papers that he so happily showed on the live, I'm assuming you got it when you were ordained into the brotherhood. Does your ordin who is covering you when your pastor has bowed down to an evil altar? Who is covering you when your pastor has idols? Who is covering you? And I'm just talking now in totality of the body of Christ. Who is covering you when your pastor is married and having sex with their spiritual sons and spiritual daughters? Who is covering you when your pastor is enjoying orgies? Who is covering you when they're in the gossip rooms? Cuz gossip is also a sin. Um, which he has done behind the scenes smearing my name to quite a few people. Who is covering you when your shepherd is being covered by sin? Isaiah 30:1. Um, for those of you that want to know what the Bible says about covering, I want to stick to scripture today. And we're going to go to Isaiah 30:1, which says, "Woe to the rebellious children, sayaeth the Lord, that take counsel, but not of me, and that cover with a covering, but it's not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin." That is the covering that he is under. This covering is not of God's spirit. How do we know that? Because the Bible says that the spirit of the Lord is a spirit of truth. And if he told a lie about me being a witch, if he lied on me, he actually said in his live, "Somebody publicly rebuked you, Tiffany, at a restaurant." That has never in life happened. We should mark that man as a liar. You know, I don't know him, never met him. Maybe he started off right. I don't know. But we do know that according to 1st Samuel 15, once appointed and anointed is not always appointed and anointed. We do know that God appointed and anointed Saul, but he also lost his his position because he rejected God in his assignment. We do know that the spirit of rebellion and uh stubbornness is likened unto witchcraft, iniquity, and idolatry. We do know that God took him off of his position and replaced him with somebody else. And ultimately, I want to say one more time, just because you were anointed and appointed in one season does not mean that that is the case for you today. because we are fruit inspectors and he told a lie, everybody should mark him as a liar. But the truth is, you asked the question, how did I feel about him calling me a witch? And it's not really his fault. It is the fault of the people that he surrounded himself by, his colleagues, his clicks, the people that thought that they could gather together against me because I guess they hadn't read Isaiah 54:15. The Bible declared to me, "Surely they shall gather together against you, but it won't be by me. Whosoever gathers together against you will fall for your name's sake." Nobody has stood online and say, "I have stood in the counsel of the Lord concerning Tiffany, and thus sayeth the Lord, she is a witch." What he did was he spoke out of his flesh, and according to Psalm 64, his own tongue will now turn on him. He has heaped himself in a great deal of trouble in his own house. And my prayer today is that he will fall down to his knees in repentance and make it right with God. So, you know, one of one of the man, I was telling you this before we even started, Tiff, is I although I understand exactly what you're saying. I truly hate to see all of this, you know? I hate to see How do you think I feel? I woke up to it. I know. I woke up one day to being attacked unprovoked. I woke up out of my sleep unprovoked being attacked online mostly by all men. How do you think I feel? So, what I want you to do is get into a place where you don't have demonic compassion. Man, I really hate that this is happening. I really hate that. Yeah, so do I. I woke up one day and a man I don't know called me a witch out loud. Unprovoked. Literally picking picking picking picking. And then I find out he did it at church. So, I get that you don't like that this is happening, but I need you to wake up and stop looking at this from a natural perspective and looking at this from a spiritual perspective to say, "What I hate more is that somebody I considered an OG, somebody I considered a legend in the body, somebody I considered somebody that was a great teacher, did this to somebody that they considered not grown in God?" How can you do this to a babe in Christ? How can you do this to a babe in Christ? And we can get into some of the conversations I've had with his colleagues. How can you do that? So, yes, I hate that you I I understand that you hate that it all happened, but I just want to bring you back into reality that I woke up to it. So, and you know, Tiff, it's not it's not even really just starting with you. I've been seeing this for a while. You know, with us having a platform where we have, you know, guests and, you know, we we lift, we platform a lot of speakers and leaders in the community. We've had many calls when like, hey, you know, y'all should really think about this person cuz, you know, they don't really rock with that person. we really starting to understand like there's these level of factions um and you know it's a lot of politics especially when you know a platform like us when you rise to this point um you start really pissing certain people off especially by platforming and having certain conversations it it's crazy because I remember when you know it was one point especially when we first started the the show I was investing in you know reading the Quran and I was reading the Bible and I had so many Christian leaders come in here. It's like, "Listen, you confused. This is the way." And now that I am fully invested into Jesus, now it's like these same people are now saying, "You need to choose a side." And I'm like, I thought we was all on the same team. And that's just kind of what the position that Tashan and I are both in. It it really is. And when I see even outside of you, when I see a lot of people online who are respected, who have a flock, who are shephering people, what happens is the first thing I do, I go straight to the comments because I really like to see the thoughts of the people because that's really the flock in the comments. A lot of times you see a lot of confusion. You see people not knowing what to do. You see I mean the a lot of people that even find you on YouTube is because they're searching. They went to YouTube. They they look so they got a little bit of you. they going a little bit over here that that that's how they are searching and trying to grow in Christ. So how are we supposed to best as leaders in the space because I even consider me and Ryan now in leadership now in the space. How do we handle reconciliation and conflict with without causing confusion in the space? How does that work? First of all, the devil is full of confusion, right? So you're trying to ask, what you're asking is how do you uh disarm, dismantle or demilitarize something that the enemy started which is a bunch of confusion. A smear campaign is confusion. That is the assignment of it. The assignment of it is to create confusion. The word campaign is a military term. A smear campaign is no light thing. It is very dangerous. Unless you have one of these, which is a Bible. Unless you open it up and you read this Bible, you can be guaranteed that you will be deceived. Guaranteed. Guaranteed. Not if, when guaranteed. If you do not make a practice of studying this word, you will be deceived. Now, according to this scripture, Matthew 18 tells us how to uh deal with conflict. says, "If you have a tres, if your brother trespasses against you, you go do them alone. You want a brother if they listen to you. They don't listen to you, take a witness in the mouth of two or three witnesses, every word established. They don't listen to you, take it to the church. Uh you're welcome to bring it public now. And if that doesn't happen, mark them as a heathen and a publican." That's what the word says. That's what I've done. Uh unfortunately, it has not been returned to me. And again, I want to just point out these are the leaders. These are the big wigs in the body. Why aren't they why aren't they living according to this word? Why aren't they doing things according to the Bible? It sounds like it's a whole lot of flesh going on. And the issue is until you read this Bible, then you will think that somebody like me speaking up against it is also not God. And that's not true. Is there ever a moment in time when like openly because what is is me doing my research open rebuke like openly rebuking somebody. Is there a time when that's appropriate to openly rebuke somebody as that was done and do you consider that to be openly rebuking what happened in that situation? Now the Bible says that open rebuke is better than what is it? Secret love. What is the word? Yeah, that's that's what the Bible says. So, yes, to that question. Um, I don't even think I what I did was an open rebuke. I believe what I did was brought truth to a lie. No, I meant what he did to you actually. Could do cuz Well, he didn't rebuke me. He He got on live and called me a witch. God, that was not a rebuke. That was not a rebuke. And so, for the people that's listening, explain to them what the difference is. At this point, I don't know, but I know that that wasn't a rebuke. He just he made a false he became an accuser of the brethren against me. That wasn't a rebuke. That was an that was a false accusation against me. Those are different terms. He was an The Bible says that the father of all lies is the accuser of the brethren. He became an accuser of the brethren against me. So, I I do want to dive into a bit of what you're saying with Matthew 18 and how you specifically went about the situation. Sure. But before that, you know, because I I saw the uh cuz man, we get flooded with messages and of course I saw um Dr. Eric Mason's live that uh when he called you a witch, right? And I had my initial thoughts from it because it looked like at that point, you know, it was between the chat and God and he chose to respond whatever whatever was he was feeling about the chat at that point. And I thought, okay, well, he was very upset. This is probably something that could potentially work out. But then I now get introduced just just now that what two three days before that at church on the pull pit he then accuses you of being a witch there. So I'm just very confused by this because I'm trying to figure out you know what would possess you know another pastor to focus on just what another pastor is doing you know like kind of what the other side is doing. So what do you think is the reason because you dispel the reasons that he gave. Mhm. So what do you think the true reason is why he would be so bold as to accuse you of being a witch in front of his church? So it wasn't boldness, it was stupidity. Let's just say that. Um first Kings 22, I I am fully persuaded now that God allows certain people to come up against me so that judgment could be laid on them. I don't know what he's doing behind the scenes, but I do believe it will be exposed soon. You know, there was a man that made a living with a monetized YouTube page calling me out every day. Tiffany's in a cult. Tiffany's a false prophet. Tiffany's this. Tiffany's that. Yeah. Very popular page. Yeah. I I saw that. Yeah. His church just recently put up an announcement on their website and said, "This man is not just cheating on his wife. He was a little bit ago and we restored him back, but now he said he's leaving his wife and his child to be with the mistress." This is the person that many people believed his word about me. Can you imagine? I have come to learn that the men that speak up against me or women are in some type of secret sin. Whatever is going on in that man's house that call me a witch, you will see soon that thing is about to be exposed. There is no way that God would allow him to mock me like that unless he repents and you don't see exposure hit his house. Now, what was the question you asked me? Well, I think you I think you pretty much answered the question was No, I didn't. Thank you, Holy Ghost. Okay. First Kings 22. Go ahead. Go ahead. You said, "What would give him the stupidity to stand in his pull pit and call me a witch by name?" We all heard the video together. Yeah. So, we all heard it. It's not hearsay. First Kings 22, God needs Ahab to die. He needs him off the earth. I need to get rid of him. God says, "Who can I get to persuade Ahab to go to war?" Think of it another way. Who can I get to persuade this man to go to war against Tiffany because I need him to fall? There's a spirit that went to God and said, "I will do it." And God said, "How?" He said, "I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of their prophets." These are Jezebel's prophets. I will become a lying spirit in the mouth of these prophets. 400 prophets in the book of First Kings 22. Y'all going to promise y'all going to read it tonight? Yeah. Yeah. I'll read it tonight. It's It's not a long chapter. Just read it. You're going to be blown away. Okay. First Kings 22. That's right. Cuz I need you to see how the spiritual world works. This spirit goes to God and says, "I will become a lying spirit in the mouth of these prophets." So that they can persuade Ahab to go to war because God wanted him dealt with. These 400 prophets tell Ahab, "You're going to win the war. The battle is yours. You're going to win it." There was another king named Jehoshaphat that was a man of God that said, "These are Jezebel's prophets, but I want to speak to God's prophet." God's prophet happened to be in jail. His name was Prophet Micaiah. They hated Prophet Micaiah because he didn't speak smooth words. He didn't speak nice words. He didn't prophesy cars, clothes, and houses. He only spoke what thus sayeth the Lord, whether you wanted to hear it or not. So, they put him in jail. Cuz the Bible has always told you how much people hate God's prophets. They drag him out of jail, shackled. And Ahab says, "I don't like you cuz you never prophesy nice things to me." It's right there in the Bible. So they said, "What is the word of the Lord?" And Prophet Micaiah say, "Yes, Abos. You're going to win the war just like everybody else say." And guess what they did? Punched them right in the mouth. It's right in the Bible. They said they punched them in the mouth. [Laughter] Anyway, after he got punched in the mouth, he gave him the word of the Lord. He told him what happened. He said there was a lying spirit that went into the mouth of those prophets. He said, "If you go to war, you're going to die." He said, "I told you I didn't like him. He don't prophesy nice things to me." He said, "If I be a man of God, if you go to that war, you will die." So, there was somebody that gave him truth. But unless you are a lover of truth, hear me clearly. Second Thessalonians chapter 2. Many people don't wonder over there. But 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 says, "Because you did not receive truth so that you could be saved, I will then send a strong delusion to them so that they can believe the lie so that I can bring damnation unto them." That's a curse. That's the new covenant. What am I saying? Ahab wore somebody else's outfit to go to war because he lightweight believed Prophet Micaiah and said, "Well, if they don't know who I am, I won't." Guess what? Arrol still found him. What do I say that? I personally believe that God sent a lying spirit out into that camp cuz that camp is full of mixture. That camp is full of idolatry. That camp is getting ready to fall. I believe that God gave them time and space to repent and they did not do it. That camp is full of pride. And God says that before the fall come before pride comes before the fall. I believe that wholeheartedly now that I'm watching what's happening. And I believe that God sent a lying spirit in that camp that said go up against Tiffany. Now let me tell you something. I have never started a fight online. Never have I started a fight online in real life. When I used to fist fight, I never started a fight. I'm principled as a fighter. I have never started a fight online, but I will finish it. You want war with me, I'll give it to you. But I would prefer not to because I'm a minister of reconciliation. All right. I guess well, you know, when I when Tiff is talking, my mind is so clear. I literally forget everything. Yeah. Like I'm truly present. I'm not thinking about my next question. So, I literally lost my question. I'm letting it I'm letting it come back to me. Yeah. Let it let it let it sink in a little bit. Let it sizzle a little bit here. Right now, by the way, we live right now. We got 4,600 people in the chat. Welcome here tonight. You know what I thought was an episode of Hardly Initiated. It truly is Initiated. Yeah, we we going old school right now. Shout out to uh I saw this early. I wanted to find out who it was. It was a It was a brother said he was literally pulling out his RTM journal. So, shout out to the Renew Your Mind Journal, guys. You got to get this to literally track your transformation. You got I mean, it's beautiful on the outside clearly, but the inside is where all the goodness is at. And that's when you going to wake up early. You going to go to sleep at on time and you going to journal exactly what you thinking. We got some uh beautiful three prompts for you to fill out just in case you're having trouble about what to write about. And then you got the free open space in case you might be a poet, you know, or or a fake rapper, you know, you just you just want to record your thoughts. So yeah, we gave you some daily prompts and some free writing space, too. Uh really created the Listen, I've been journaling my whole life. So we put together the ultimate journal here. So go ahead and get your renew the mind journal and it came back to me. Thank you, Holy Ghost. Okay. So when it comes to this uh spiritual authority, that was one of the claims as well. Spiritual covering, it was claimed that you don't have any. Let's talk about that. Sure. Because I've heard this in many places. Um, I've heard this on the podcast before just the importance of that. One, I want to ask, how important is it that somebody has spiritual leadership and spiritual authority over them or in their lives? And two, what does that look like for you? Sure. Well, let me answer a question or answer a question because they said I had none, right? And obviously, uh, if you've never asked me, that's a false accusation, correct? Let me just read to you. But false accusations are statements or claims made against somebody that are untrue and not based on evidence or facts. It's when a person is wrongly accused of doing something they did not do, often with the intention of harming their reputation, causing them distress, or achieving some other malicious goals. False accusations can have serious consequences both for the person being accused and for the individual making false claims as they can lead to damage to relationships, legal implications, and emotional distress. In the biblical context, false accusations goes against principles of God's truth, God's justice, and God's love for one another. And you can reference Exodus 2016, Proverbs 6:16-19, and the book of Ephesians 4:2. With that being said, my question I want to turn back to you is, if covering is important, why is his covering allow him allowing him to lie like this online? Who is Eric Mason's covering? I actually asked to speak to his covering. I have yet to get the phone number for it. I've asked to speak to everybody's covering involved. I have yet to get their contact phone number for it. So, what is this whole covering conversation about? And if his covering is in a mason, a Freemason or in a secret society, does God really care about what that covering has to say? So, that's my question to you. I do. You have any answers of why I haven't gotten their phone number? Is that what a covering is for? Isn't that what it's for? That when you make a false accusation like this, I should be able to speak to your covering and have a conversation. What is the covering actually for? Have you guys ever asked? Cuz I haven't got Would you like to make a demand that I get a phone number? We can do it live right here on the podcast that I can speak to their coverings. I can play the recordings that I have in front of everybody so we can see who the liar is. And I would like to put out that invitation. I have asked for the coverings contact number. I have yet to receive it. Would you guys like to ask and make a demand that I get their coverings information? So that isn't that a fair thing since everybody's making this conversation about how important coverings are? If coverings are important, who is covering you when you're lying and are they okay with it? Let me ask you this. Sure. Would you like to before you ask me anything else make a demand that I get their covering information? Let me be honest with you, cuz it's possible. I would love for a serious biblical reconciliation to occur off camera behind closed doors. That's not what we asked. We just said, "Will you make a demand that I speak to?" No. That I speak to their covering. That is what I'm not asking for reconciliation. Okay. I am asking you to make a demand that I speak to their coverings because you keep saying that coverings are so important. That's all I'm asking. I have asked for their coverings information. What is a covering for to allow you to send? Would you like to make that demand? And and let's be I want to understand I want to understand what is the the covering? So is it a person? Is the covering typically like a leader or a pastor? I don't know guys. Would you like to make the demand right now that I speak to their spiritual coverings? We want you to speak to the spiritual cover. And I'm cuz I'm trying to figure out if they're referring to like a pastor or a spouse asked or a Well, I mean, I haven't talked so long. Okay. Well, you everybody that's brought up the conversation about covering to you ever, you should have said, "What is this? What's the purpose of it?" Right? You don't just take what people say for face value. What is a covering for? Can you have a conver you know how many people are mad at me because God gave me the name for covered by God? Now, let me say this. I am fully covered. God has put people in my life to cover me. God has put people in my life for me to cover. I understand what that means. But I also understand what they mean by it when they say covering. I understand that it's perverted. I understand that it's another word for control. I understand that it's another word for manipulation. They want you to pay their dues. Give them $1,000, $2,000 so that you can be covered. And then they put fear in you and say when you leave this covering something bad will happen to you. That is witchcraft. It is wickedness at its finest. And many people listening right now have been told that they're stuck at a church right now horrified to leave because it has been preached from the pullpit. If you leave from up under this covering, something bad will happen to you. Well, if they became your God, then what is God's responsibility? And were you not covered before you ever met that pastor? Did God not keep you alive before you met that ministry? Or when you met those people, God said, "Perfect. I don't have to be God anymore because now you have a new God." And does that that does that not get you in trouble with God? And so, yes, I am happily covered by God. Because I think what we all found out was that in 2020, human beings couldn't cover you. We found out during the pandemic that if you weren't covered by God, you're in trouble. We found out that everybody was in the same space in 2020. Yes. I just I just wanted to know, men of God, would you like to make the claim that I can speak to somebody's covering? I would I would like for Tiffany to speak to the coverings. Okay. Now, here's what I I I I do understand that the church there is a very important place for the church and I 100% very important place for God's eklesia, God's church. 1,000%. So I I want I want to ask that too because you know there is you go into there's there's you know places in the Bible even in Acts where it breaks down you know um God's design of the church or in in the the the purpose of the elders and having this structure if you will like the spiritual structure and order is that for everybody what do you mean well I'm that's what I'm asking because I mean sure it Is is this are we not all supposed to go off of the same book? And let me say this because there's a few people in the comments saying that I've never said the name of Jesus. Not only do I say the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, I believe that there is only one way to the father and that is through Jesus Christ, his son. I do not believe that there's many ways to the father. Uh there's only one way. And if you don't give your life to Christ and say in the name of Jesus Christ, you're probably going to hell. Um, and so let's go ahead and kill that lie. Um, so that it has no legs to stand on. I know, but it was in the comments and they started to say it. So I wanted to uh say that that's how a lying spirit goes out. You got you got to kill it like a roach. They got to they're just roaches in the comments. Just it's just a roach. You got to stomp it down. I've said the name of Jesus Christ plenty of times. I say it about a thousand times a day. and um and I'm in love with him. With that being said, uh your question uh was crazy because are we all not supposed to live off of the same Bible? There is not one sect of people that go off of a different piece of information and in another sect of people. Every one of us who are believers of Jesus Christ should be going off of the 66 books of the Bible. We have no right to add to the scriptures and take away from the scriptures for the Bible says you'll be cursed for doing it. We have no right to trust in another Jesus, believe another spirit or preach another doctrine. He said you'll be accursed in the book of Galatians chapter 1. This is the this is the book that we listen to. So if you have a pastor saying that the five-fold ascension gifts are no longer here and the Bible says that they are, then you are taking something out of the Bible that should be there and let you be accursed according to Galatians chapter 1. I think that um and Todd, you let me know if this is accurate, but I think that Todd even asked that is because you know with the messages that you hear just kind of about about Tiffany McGomery and who Tiffany McGomery is. I think that the messages from other people suggest that you are anti-urch and not not anti-urch but you don't necess Yeah. You know what but don't necessarily may have a church home and because I think that's connected to the covering, right? I think the covering is connected to church and leadership in church, right? I think that's probably where most of that conversation is coming from. So, do you can do you believe that you could be just as covered and be under spiritual leadership and authority without being in a church home? Let's let me kill that lie. So, first of all, I love God's ecstasy. I I love God's church. Uh I fight for her. The Bible says that the church, the the gates of hell, the only thing that it can't prevail against is the church. Um we are God's church. We are God's eklesia. The word eklesia is the gathering of people. So a building isn't a church. The gathering if we started to have church right now and started to worship God, that would be to God considered church. That's what the definition is. We cannot just have our own definitions and fly with it. You know, if you tell if you let people tell a lie often enough, long enough, and loud enough, people start thinking that it's true, even if they have proof in front of them that it's not. With that being said, my question to you is, why did nobody have anything to say when I was at a church full of gay people? Why did nobody have anything to say when I was a babe in Christ being attacked by a network of churches trying to kill me spiritually? Not one person had anything to say. Why didn't anybody have anything to say about that? You got to start asking some real questions here. So, am I against God's church? No. I fight for her. I fight for the bride of Christ. I love God's church. I'm never against God. But God is against these uh synagogues of Satan is what the Bible calls them. God is against uh man-made churches, traditions of men's, people that have culture over Christ. God is against them. God is against these churches that he is not at the foundation of. And that just is what it is. God is against these churches where men and women of God have perverted and polluted God's pull pits. God is against them. And so that's who I fight for. I fight for that church. But nobody ever said anything when I was being spiritually abused in a church. Not one person. I just choose not to share my information. And the reason I do that is because it's none of your business. Cuz I know why you're asking me. Who do you think you are to ask me? Who do you think you are to demand an answer for me? And you're the one that strengthens the hands of evildoers. You call good evil and you call evil good and you want to demand an answer out of me. I've come to learn that once somebody has formed an opinion about you, doesn't matter what truth you bring to the table, they're going to believe the lie no matter what cuz they just don't like you. And the truth is, let's be very clear, that it's not me that people don't like. It's an altar of God in me versus an altar of the devil in them. And when they hear me, I challenge that evil altar. So, they hate the spirit of God in me. They don't hate me. I used to think that this was a generation who didn't know God, but I have come to learn that this is a generation who hates him. [Music] You know, I I would say Tiff, it's um I do feel like I agree with you and your perspective about how people feel about church. I I feel like even over this past year, I remember I was talking to you about it. I had a really good conversation, you know, when we were on the phone one time. I was telling you, I was reading these different books. I still went in the Bible and you you had challenged me. You had a healthy challenge. You said, "Well, why are you, you know, taking all these supplements and not just going to the source?" And um that's what inspired me to go ahead and and activate this small group that's been a big part of my life that's changed it. All brothers, we challenged each other, held each other accountable, been reading, praying consistently. Um, and I even say that that was linked to um, me making the ultimate covenant with God, which really my marriage was just a fruit of that covenant. And a lot of people they they not only is that usually discouraged, they typically ask me first when they meet me and I and I and I get that weird energy sometimes. They say, "You in church?" And I say, "No, because I know I know what they mean when they say, "Are you in church?" And when they as soon as I say no, I'm not in church, they start instantly going to this spill of why I need church and why I'm not going to be ever good enough if I'm not in church. They don't ask me what's my relationship with God. That's right. What's my relationship with sin? Am I growing closer to God? What's my prayer life like? That's right. They ask they they typically use whether or not I'm in church to qualify as the building of church, right? as the barometer of whether or not I'm having a good relationship with God. That's correct. And that typically really bothers me, too. Which is why even when they when I hear that question be asked, I know there's something behind it, even though it typically sounds innocent. Wh why why do we have that just uh just understanding as as a culture? And here's the thing. I'm not even saying I won't ever be in a building or church at some point in my life. Maybe I would. Um, but I know, man, I've grown closer to Christ than I ever have been, even when I was in church this past year. But why do we have that as a culture? Why is that the the general understanding or belief system we has as a body of believers? What would you say to that, Tim? I'll say number one, it's a spirit of religion. Um, and it's complete ignorance. You said something profound. Nobody asks you about your prayer life. Nobody asks you about um your study life. Nobody asks you about your relationship with God. It's are you in church? And if you're not, you don't know God. That is ignorance at its highest degree. Um, and it's a it's a to be honest with you, a spirit of control and manipulation. They just want to get you into spiritual witchcraft, turn you every way but loose. Um, and here's the funny thing. How many people do you know, and you can answer this guys in the chat, how many people do you know that go to church and they have their coverings phone number and they have the ability to call them whenever they want to. How many you went to church right now? Mhm. How many of you can testify that your pastor, who is your covering, you have their phone number and you can call them whenever you need to? I would imagine hardly any. I would imagine hardly any also. Yeah, probably the ones that's So, how are they covering you? Is it just when you're giving your offerings and your tithes? Is it just when you're getting the message once a week? Like what? Let's have a real convers. What is covering? I'm interested to know h are they covering you or is it just the label that you want to say I'm covered? [Music] Let's talk about and let me also say this everybody listen very clearly. God has good pastors. The Bible says he'll give you shepherds after his own heart. So while I have I believe by God design run into some very wicked people in ministry. I also have run into and have in my own circle pastors after God's own heart. Right? These are wonderful pastors. And so I just wanted to put that out there that every church isn't bad, right? Every pastor isn't wicked. There are pastors out there. There are apostles out there. There are prophets out there. There are evangelists out there. There are teachers out there. There are bishops out there that are after God's own heart. And so our job is to increase in the gift of discerning of spirits to be able to discern who is who. And to be honest with you, it is pretty easy to see a lot of the times. and we're just ignore it. I believe out of slave mentality and from a spirit of molestation that comes from the home. Break that down for me, please. Sure. I believe that the reason why the majority of the people in the church are silent and hate when somebody speaks up is because they learned it in the house when they got molested. Nobody speaks. So, we're not following the design of kingdom. We're following the design of what goes on in this house stays in this house. That's why when somebody gets molested, they start enjoying it. Unfortunately, um because that demonic hand imparted into them, the spirit of lust, perversion, um and they like the very thing that killed their innocence and will eventually kill all of their relationships when they get older. And then they were bound to silence by a threat. If you tell, this is what they'll think of you. If you tell, I'm going to kill somebody in your family. If you tell this is going to happen. And that's brought that that crept into the church unawares. And nobody stopped it. So here we have now a body of Christ that continuously castrates their prophets and tells them not to speak up when the design of a prophet is to cry loud and spare not. The design of a watchman is to see and say and here you have a church in coverings telling them to shut up. Ain't that something? Yeah. That comes from that comes from your house. That's not kingdom. That's not kingdom. That's the house. That's a principality. Man, man. Yeah. Same thing. I'm thinking we can let it breathe. That's fine. Yeah. You know what? Let's do this real quick. So, it's been a while since we've been live. So, this we'll do this real quick. So, we got a giveaway link in the description. We about to hit 6,000 people. And I want to keep this conversation going real quick. We're about to hit 6,000 people. If you click the giveaway link, whatever is on is going to be inaccurate cuz we haven't updated this a while cuz we have in the live show. But what I want to do is I want to give away 20 Cover by God t-shirts. You You still got the t-shirts on sale? Yep. So Tashan and I hardly initiated. We're going to purchase 20 Cover by God t-shirts and we're going to send them directly to your address. So all you got to do Oh yeah, and let's celebrate that real quick. Absolutely. Congratulations. Cuz we got 20 people that just want a free t-shirt. So guys, give us a couple days. It usually take us like one or two days to get those things out. So all you got to do to qualify, just don't look at the page. All you got to do click the page, your name, your phone number, and your email. It takes like 20 seconds and you will qualify to win a free Cover by God t-shirt that will send be sent directly to your address and Tiffany can verify. Okay? So, she can blast us on live too if we don't if she don't see those 20 purchases go through in the next 48 hours. That's a fact. And just for y'all that don't know that came in here, the Highife community, Harley initi, guys. So, we got here a couple people that's coming in and joining us. We going to be having monthly activations. We going to be having some inerson things going on. So, go ahead and check that out if you want to join the community uh down below that is in the description. I I want to transition here because actually Tiff, I I think it's a good time to give you flowers actually. Thank you. Because last year the uh initial series where that sound was born came in because you know me and Ryan and you know our boldness and our curiosity in our desire to learn we brought a witch on the platform and you know a lot of people we upset a lot of people you know we upset a lot of people and I saw what typically happens in the space a ton of people that are influencers, leaders, content creators, they went up and a lot of people went and they just did what they did. You know, these fools, this this that this. And I remember just getting hit with that, being kind of confused at how and why that happened, but it's okay. I said, you know, I'mma take my lick. I'mma get I'mma go hit the belt line face first in Matthew. Let me figure this out. Let me let me find what's going on in Matthew. And I remember you actually called me. The only person, Tiff, I would say, you're the only person that actually called my phone on FaceTime that day and was like, "Yo, what the hell y'all got going on?" And I didn't say hell. Yeah, cuz you know they get that's my translation. Yeah. Lord, they already lying on me saying I'm a cussing pastor. I did not say that. Okay. But yeah, that's how my brain talk. Yeah, I still say it. I don't judge me either. But you like what y'all got going on? Mhm. And we had a great conversation. You gave me some great perspective. And you know, we went ahead the series was birthed from there. And I think that was I think that is a big part of what's missing though. I think like that that just formula of us being able to just straight up call one another, have a conversation, and be able to really disciple one another, hold each other accountable, and grow. Because I don't even think many of our hearts are malicious as much as we're really just making, you know, some of us just make mistakes, need correction, and so on. Now, I'm not saying that you you made a mistake or needed correction or whatever the case is that inspired uh what took place, but I'm just saying it's a very rare occurrence that all of these content creators that's putting out this content, I don't think we're having conversations with one another. What do you think that why why are we as a community? They're cowards. It's called the spirit of a coward. The Bible tells you that cowards won't inherit the kingdom of heaven. Yeah, they're cowards. When I hear somebody say something about me or I assume something is about me, I reach out to the person. Say, "Hey, was this about me? Is there a reason why have I done anything to you? Is there an alt that you have against me? There's nobody that can testify that I have not asked that to." Um, I believe that's fair to do. I believe in godly confrontation. Um, and I believe everybody has deserved that behind the scenes. Hey, I would like to know why this was said. Can you tell me why? Have I offended you in any way? If so, I would like to apologize for it. Those are my conversations behind the scenes. So, the question is, why aren't the people that you consider leaders doing that to people they consider sheep? That's the real question. It is, cuz I'm doing it. I have proof of me doing it. You should start asking the people that you hold to high esteem and leadership why they are so messy. Why are they gossiping like little school girls? The OG's. Cuz the OG's I know would never. I just It is tricky. Um let me ask you this because uh you know it is a this uh sensationalism right that comes with social media and uh you know you're growing your following and I mean it's growing tremendously even since the first time we ever had you on the platform and it continues to grow and of course everybody in the space can see things like that just like we catch strays and we catch people saying stuff about us all the time just because we're growing our platform. Mhm. So I just very curious like how much of it do you think has to do with you know uh you being a threat because of you know popularity or just you know growing your platform and your audience just literally from having a you know awesome message and a strong marketing machine like how much of it do you think is just from you doing good work is agitating people? So, I I think when I wake up in the morning, I agitate people when I when I got when my first I hate her. I hate her. I'm like, I hate her. I hate her. I hate her. You know, I wake up. Yeah. She's awake. I hate her. That's funny. Tiff is crazy. No, cuz I mean, it's got to be true. What am I doing to these people? Like, you said something pretty funny. You have a huge marketing machine. I don't have a team. Yeah, it's that's the perception. This is all organic. This is all God. One thing I'm grateful that God did for me is did not allow a man to build my platform. I would have been snatched off of that a long time ago. Um I am genuinely unblack ballable. You can't take something from me that God gave. I have no marketing platform. I have a very popular conference called millions conference for entrepreneurs. never had ads for it. It's all organic, sold out on its own. Like, I don't I don't have a I don't have a plan. I don't My Cover by God meetings are never scheduled. I don't even know when the next one is, and it'll be in June. I don't know what city I'm going to. I don't know what state. I wake up one day and I say, "We're going to Hawaii next." A week or two weeks out, 5,000 tickets gone. free. Rarely take up an offering. I pay for those meetings out of my own pocket. So, where is this all coming from? You have to understand, I got saved 10 years ago. This is my 10 year anniversary in my shower. Congrats. Congrats. Congratulations. 10 years ago in my shower, I gave my life to Christ and I was I was a threat to the kingdom the second I said yes to God. As a matter of fact, I don't think I realized how strong I was in God or how important I was or how important my assignment was until 30 churches at one time launched a fullscale attack on me as a newborn Christian when I got saved. 30 churches. Yes, it was a network of them. So, it was one main church with a network of churches. All of their leaders, all of that's the first time I was called a witch. So, that's why I know Eric Mason is in trouble cuz we all knows what happened for to the last guy that called me a witch on the live. What I'm saying to that is that's what happened to me when I was a baby in Christ. For sure, babe. And I can still consider myself a babe in Christ. Like that's people say she's a babe in Christ. I'm never fighting that allegation because at the end of the day, I am just a little girl of God. I do not know everything about the Bible. I am always learning. I am hungry for more information. When I'm 103 years old, if by God's grace, I'm still going to be learning everything about God is God. He is my God, the ancient of days, right? God is the I am that I am. God is our maker, our creator. He's El Shadai. God is God, the great and terrible God. He is God and God all by himself. The Bible says that the heaven is his throne, the earth is his foottool, and those clouds you see are dust to his feet. I am a baby. I don't know everything about God. So, I found out early on that I was pretty much a threat. Cuz why does it take so many of you to come against one girl? Why does it take so many of you to have to jump one little girl? Do you know what that says to me? Oh, my assignment is a lot stronger. Let me go back and fast and pray and see what I'm supposed to be doing on the earth. Because if all of you are ganging together against one girl, you got to know that you have put me on alert that I am pretty important to God and I'm more powerful than I even thought I was. Somewhere in the Bible, it says if they knew what killing Jesus would have done, they would have never killed him. If they knew what coming up against me would have done, they would have never did it. You want to know why? Cuz I'm normally quiet. I like to just be in my cave. I like to be quiet. I like to mind my own business. I live a real life offline. I have a real family offline. I I live my dream life offline. If they knew what getting me out of my cave and going to war with me looked like, they would have never started the fight. Just like they said, if we knew what killing him would have done, they would have never killed Jesus Christ of Nazareth. They would have let him live. So, I I don't know why. I I got a big why, too. And I want to get to because it's been it's been a minute. We're a little rusty, but we got some uh some super chats. And listen, I want y'all to send in y'all super chats, too. I want y'all to make sure y'all keep them at $19 or $20 or above. And this is why because I want to make sure you are motivated to ask the questions that Tyan and I might have missed cuz I don't want to leave nothing. No trolling either. Yeah. No trolling. No trolling. But I want you to help us be the best journalist on exactly what's happening right now. What's what's occurred this week with these uh false prophetes and witch accusations. Help us be the best. send over your best questions that you think me and Tai missed out on because we want Tiffany to uh answer answer them here live with us. Go ahead. This is a really important question because you know I'm looking at this space the um the Christian space in particular. I there's like um I guess I guess like a mainstream space in the Christian space. I don't consider you in that mainstream space, Tiff. like you have your own movement that is just moving and it's powerful, but I don't see you on those huge like Christian networks. Do you feel like that's intentional? I decline 99% of all of my engagements. No, I'm not coming to your stage. I don't want to go to your conference. No. Why is that? Like some of the some of the main street because I can discern you don't like me. No, I'm not coming on there. People invite you that you feel that you know don't like you all the time. Honey, I can see that all the time. Yeah. You know, these people for the most part are very two-faced. So, they like you to your face and not behind your back. Let me clarify something. Somebody said in the comment, they're not uh calling you out, Tiffany. Uh they're calling you out because you're false. And I want to ask each and every one of you, if I can prove to you the recordings that your favorite said, Tiffany, I apologize for calling you false. Would you change what you said? Will I get a public apology from you? If the person that you said called me false, I have a public I have a phone recording. I will let y'all listen to it saying I'm sorry for calling you false. I shouldn't have done it. Man, I think we got you all wrong. Tiff, you're my sis now. So, no, baby. These people don't think I'm false. Actually, and this is the I have is that the same disrespect I got publicly, I should have gotten a public apology because the assignment of a lie, a lie is a weapon in the hands of a devil in in the hands of the devil. You know, words are weapons. Psalms Absolutely. Yeah. It says in the Bible, words are like it's is literally a we a physical weapon. Words are also seeds. The second a word goes out of the mouth, it goes into the ground. And unless that word is plucked up, it begins to germinate. If you don't get that seed up fast enough, it turns into a tree, ultimately a stronghold, and then that's when you have to lay an axe to it. Um, but we want to try in the body to not let it get to the place where we have to lay an axe to it, uh, so that it can be heuned down according to Matthew 3:10 and cast into the fire. We want to get to the place that when it's still seed form, we can pluck it up before it germinates. The truth is they are calling me false because their favorites have called me false. But I have phone conversations with Philip Mitchell. I have phone conversations with Preston Perry apologizing to me and saying, "I'm sorry for calling you a false prophet." I have those calls. If it was said to me in private, I apologize. and these people in your comments think that these people think that I'm false. When these people have apologized to me, then I am owed a public apology because that public apology would have killed the lie before it germinated. Now that lie has become a stronghold. Now the minds of people think that I am this when they don't think that I'm this. I mean it's common sense. Not only that, men of God, at the end of that conversation with Preston Perry, I said, "If I want to give you permission if you believe that I am not preaching doctrine online, if you think that I'm in error in any way, I want to give you permission. Here's my phone number to call me and bring correction to me." He said, "I sure will. You think I've gotten a phone call? How do you then come into agreement with somebody calling me a witch when you apologized to me for calling me a false prophet and you never took your own word? You're a man. Your word was supposed to be your bond. You were supposed to keep your word. So I'm the babe in Christ, right? If you give me your word, aren't you supposed to keep it, men? You say to me, "Yes, I will bring correction to you if I see you preaching anything outside of the Bible." I haven't gotten one phone call yet. So to everybody in the comments who are saying that these people have called me false and I'm false because they said so. You know, the Bible doesn't just get you for lying. He God is against you for believing the lie. M somebody said, "Does she ever not speak death upon anybody that doesn't believe in her?" Let me clear that up. I don't speak death on people. Your the consequences of what you did spoke death on you. If Proverbs 19 verse 5 and verse 9 is true, a false witness will not go unpunished and a liar will not escape. And in verse 9, it says, "A false witness will not go unpunished and a liar will perish." Everybody right now Google what the word perish means. It means to die suddenly, violently. So if you lied on me and the Bible says that, did Tiffany decree death on you or is that what the scripture said? This is why when people say to me, "What do you think about this person?" Oh, I don't know. Unless God tells me something, I keep my opinions to I got opinions about everything. But in the kingdom that we're a part of, the kingdom that we live in, we are not people that live off of our opinions. We live off of what God said. My opinion is different from what God said. And unless God has spoken to me about a man, unless God has spoken to me out about a woman, my opinion of you does not matter. I cannot like you and still know that you work for God. We're not called to like everybody in the kingdom, but that doesn't make you a witch, and it doesn't make you false. And I believe that the recordings I have show the lack of integrity in these people that you all consider leaders. I think what should be brought up in the body of Christ is the lack of integrity and the lack of godly character in the body of Christ. People talk about gifts and character, but what happens when you're exposed as somebody that has a double face and a double tongue? You're a liar and you should be marked as one. Now Tiff, let me ask you this because you know specifically you you brought up Preston Perry and we've had him on the platform and my interactions with Preston was was was great was excellent. I thought he provided some wise counsel. I thought he was very genuine as a person and I thought he was just generally a cool dude. I did too. Now, could it be possible that a leader in Christ, somebody like Preston, right, could see your reaction on live last night or even this interview live right here and say, "Hey, you know what? I would be open to speaking to her, but because of how she's responding now, it's something I just really want would prefer to stay away from." Okay. Do you think that's a coward move? So, let me take you back to why he apologized for calling me a false prophet. Okay. Uh, yeah. So, February 2023 with the whole Bell Beyonce thing, he went on live and said, "Tiffany Montgomery is a false prophet. Everybody was sending it to me." I was pretty shocked about that cuz I woke up to it. There were five people I reached out to before I went live against him. And one of them, who I believe is a minister of reconciliation, put us on three-way. And that's when we had a phone call. The first thing I said was, "It's nice to meet you." Cuz I wanted to let him know that we don't know each other. He said, "It's nice to meet you, too, and I want to apologize for calling you a false prophet. I shouldn't have said it. I was just in emotions, but I shouldn't have said that." He said, "My wife and I are always being falsely accused of things. People take sound bites all the time, and uh we shouldn't have done that. I shouldn't have done that to you." And I said, "Thank you." Uh we have this conversation. And I think it goes extremely well. The Bible says that when you go to the person and you have a brother, right? This is why at the end of the conversation went so well that at the end of it, I said, "If you ever see me preaching something and you think it's an error, call me." Like, I I'm scared of God. So, if I'm preaching anything that's not according to doctrine, I would like to correct it in front of everybody. He was like, "Cool." He hung up the phone. We hung up the phone. He immediately got on live cuz he said, "I'm going to go back on live and tell everybody, you know, you know, I'm say I didn't mean it and all of that." He didn't do that. He got on live and said, "Yeah, she said that I can bring correction to her." That's what he said when he got on live. Hung up that live and then deleted it. So, everybody that heard him say he was a false prophet, if they didn't catch that live live, they didn't hear the apology. With that being said, they're clicked up with Eric Mason calling me a witch. So, what my point is, I don't think that you have the right to say these things about me and then choose to say, "I don't like how she's handling it. I think you just don't have the right to do that." Let's just Can we just be honest here? I did not start the fight. I did handle things according to scripture. I went to him alone. I didn't have the audit against him. He had the against me apparently. and I still reached out to him. That wasn't my job to reach out to him. He was supposed to, according to scripture, reach out to me. He did not do that. So, you don't have the right to now say, "I have mishandled this woman of God and I now choose not to do it cuz I don't like how she's handling it." You don't get the chance to mishandle people and then say how you wish it would be addressed. No, you're sloppy and you're full of pride and it should have never happened. and when you dishonored me in private, you should have put honor back on my name publicly and you should have apologized publicly. Now, I won't get the apology because they're still full of pride. My my prayer is that they will humble themselves and say sorry to me out loud so that it would kill the lie that they allowed to spread and it was wickedness to do. Okay. What' you think about that? Ah, it's tough. It's tough because on one side, you know, I'm like, "Hey, listen. You you give your word on something, you absolutely should follow through." I think that's a part of being a man. Then the other side of me is like, I could get on the phone with Tiff, it might end up being recorded. She might end up talking about it as soon as we get off the phone. You know, I might share myself in a vulnerable moment, actually acknowledging a mistake I made. And somehow this could potentially be used as ammunition against me and what I represent. So, I think that's a real thing. Like, that's really possible. People could generally feel that way. Mhm. And it's not because you're a bad person, but you know, Tiffany, you got this this edge about you. It's this edge where it's like, hm, I'm not sure where this can really go. Well, I guess if you didn't lie on me, you shouldn't be concerned about anything, right? But people make mistakes, right? That wasn't a mistake. That wasn't a mistake. That wasn't a mistake. That wasn't a mistake, guys. Uh, let me answer your question. So, I'm a very principled woman. Uh, that's number one. If you are a friend of mine, I'm never recording you. It's a principle of mine. Okay. So, uh, let's say we get into a knockout, dragout, fist fight. I'm never recording you. I'll just have to take that out. If you lie on me, it's never recorded. The second I have deemed you as my enemy, I've recorded you. Everybody knows that, though. I say it out loud. I'm recording you. That's is what it is. Okay. As far as anybody coming to me saying, "Can I trust her?" And all of that, I don't want to know your business anyway. I prefer you not call me. Don't call me. But the truth is, I am so trustworthy that leaders still call me. People still Do you know I have enemies right now that know that they're safe because I don't start fights. I have enemies right now that as long as they leave me alone, we're good. I don't start fights. I don't pick with people. With that being said, my question to you is, why are you so lenient and tolerating the spirit of Jezebel? The Bible says in Revelations 2, "The thing I have against you is that you tolerated Jezebel. It seems like you're tolerating this spirit. Calling somebody a false prophet is not a slip of the tongue. It is something it is a conversation that's already been had behind the scenes so many times that you feel bold enough to say it out loud now. You know, I I I agree with that. No, keep and keep in mind when you talk about Preston Perry and Pastor Eric Mason situation are completely different. I agree. It's completely different. So we got if you was talking about President Perry, that's probably what his thoughts. They're not completely different because they're still friends and he was in the comments cheering him on. My thing is you should have told your friend, "Hey, I had a conversation with her and said sorry for her being a false prophet." Because that was not cleared up publicly. Eric Mason is able to go on like an idiot and continue to smear my name, lie and bear false witness against me because his own click of people have not said I have talked to her and apologized to her for this. So this the thing too tip. Sure Dr. Mason, even if he did want to say, "Hey, I made a mistake." When you say things like this, idiot, how was like how does how how do you expect him to bring himself expect him to be a man and to not be able to be who cares? You don't get a choice to feel how you feel when you started a fight. Are you guys kidding me? That's like you punching somebody in the face and you get mollywapped all over the place and you black and blue and say, "Now I'm offended cuz you punched them first. Now you mad because you got beat up." Like, you see how stupid that sounds, guys? It sounds pretty ridiculous. You don't get to slap somebody in the face. We see that all the time on social media. Somebody they're in public, somebody hits somebody, and the other person beats them down, and everybody gets mad at the person that beat them down. No, that's the How does the abuser now turn into a victim? What you thought was that you could pick on me? What you thought that was that was that I was weak? Because you're used to people falling back. You're used to people running. You're used to people being passive aggressive. I didn't come out of the church. I came from the streets. I'm not used to that. What I'm used to is confronting you when you say something. You understand? You don't get to hit me and then cry when you get hit back. You don't get to do that. Be a man and publicly apologize for lying on me and I will happily accept your apology. As a matter of fact, I forgive Dr. Eric Mason. I don't know what he's a doctor in, but I forgive him. I forgive Preston Perry. I forgive Philip Mitchell. forgive all of these people. I release them into the will of my forgiveness. I hold no ought in my heart against any of these people. I don't know them. I do not know them. I did not start this fight. I woke up one day to it. These men hate women in ministry. This is a spirit of misogyny. They're incredibly jealous of me. They hate what God is doing in my life. That's just the truth of it. But that's not my business. I forgive them. I am very concerned with saving souls. I believe that we're getting ready to see some incredibly dark times. And my job is to get people prepared for it. I do believe that none of this is a distraction, though. I believe it's God. I believe that God is taking down some altars and taking down some man-made churches, and we're going to see some things happen uh very soon. And so, but that that's what I would like to say. You don't get a right to punch somebody in the face and now you sit here and say, "Well, I mean, how does you think he's going to feel them? The laws of the streets right now." Hey, listen. You got some good perspective. I am curious though because you know we you know, as a matter of fact, let me answer this really quick. I'm sorry to interrupt you. Go ahead. Somebody said, "I hate men. I spend majority of my time at Cover by God praying for the men." As a matter of fact, at the very last Cover by God we did called You've Been Warned, we prayed for the men, which is what I believe. we hit a evil altar and why all of a sudden all of these men started to attack me specifically. I mean, you're talking about a lot of men in ministry started to attack me. All of a sudden, right after that, Covered by God. Um, when was that covered by God? On Thursday. Wow. Yeah. In Orlando, Florida. It was called You've Been Warned. And uh and we prayed for the men. And and we we prayed for the men, you know. Uh I believe that the men are the head of the house. the men. We need the men. I said that at Covered by God. We need real men to rise up in the body of Christ. Get in position. We need the men. I say it often at Covered by God. Us women, the women of Cover by God are not feminist women. Yeah, we may be strong by the grace of God. So is Deborah. So is Prophet is Deborah. Prophet is Deborah was married and Barack wouldn't go to war without her. As a matter of fact, God said in Judges 4, he said, "I'm going to give this war over to the women." That's why the woman JL stuck the pegs in the man's head that the men were looking for to kill. He gave that war to the women. She was still a wife. And so here at Covered by God, we are not a feminist woman and that just is what it is. So, okay. So, uh, beautiful. Yeah. First, who's saying that? Who's saying that? It's a bunch of feminist really. Mhm. First of all, the way Tiff can read this chat and still be present here is insane. It's just absolutely Yeah. IQ test mandatory. We We We got some questions, too. And shout out to Shout out to uh Larry Reed live. We got Larry Reed in here. Larry Reed here. Yeah. He says, "I knows her. She's an exception instead woman. Disagree." Go ahead. Do it again. I knows her. She's an exception instead woman. Disagree, but don't disrespect. Don't judge her response if you started simple. I ain't gonna lie. Hey, listen. Let me tell you something. Tiffany, obeying all the laws of the streets, all the laws I done grown up hearing my whole life on how you supposed to operate in principle. I absolutely understand. You know, we we just got we got to ask you the hardest questions. We got to make sure we do that. I I want to throw this one in there because, you know, it took us a while to be able to to work our way to be able to get some of these people in the room, right? So, we you know, we was working on Dr. Eric Mason for a while. still ain't show up yet. We got We We kicked out all the groups now for this year. Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully hopefully still open to coming on, you know. We But we had a lot of the, you know, the top Christians though. That's what I like to call That's what I like to call it. Right. But this is my point though because I feel like if you wanted to, you could be in the room with any of these people at any given time. So, but we've been in the room with quite a few of them, right? Why is it that you haven't met Philip Anthony Mitch or haven't met the Paris or haven't met Dr. Eric Mason? How's that even possible? Let me say this with um Philip Mitchell. I we had a conversation. He was like, "Yeah, you're my sis. You're you know, I'm your brother. Call me any." I called them. We talked. But it's different when you get in the room with them, right? Isn't it different when you actually get to sit down and really inspect somebody and kind of see what they what they stand on? Let me clarify. I was going to I was going to go to his church in Atlanta last year. I was excited to hear about a man that was preaching against idolatry and uh wickedness. That's not that's not normal. I was very excited about that. So, I made it my business and next time I was in Atlanta, I was going to go visit the church. And I remember I was in Atlanta and I was like, I'm going to go on Sunday. And I paused and I said, "God, I didn't ask you first." And I've gotten myself in trouble going to churches, just being excited about it. I love church. I love God's church. Um, and I wanted to go and I paused and I said, "I apologize to you for not asking permission. Um, but is it safe for me to go there? Is it safe for me to go to this church?" and I'll wait on your answer. And the very next day, I got a uh screen recording of him mocking me from his pull pit. I got a screen recording of him talking about me from the pull pit, mocking my ministry. I was very offended by that. I was grieved by it. I was burdened by it. And I didn't say anything online. That's the misconception people have on me that I bring things online. And the truth is, these people can talk about me and talk about me and talk about me. Nobody's covering stops them. The second I say something a year later or in the Perry case, two years later, all hell breaks loose on social media as if I'm always responding to people. No, the truth is I didn't respond for two years. The truth is I didn't respond for a year. The truth is you would have never heard what happened had this group still not been calling me this. And so there's somebody I knew that was a minister of reconciliation that said, "I can get both of you on a phone call." And I said, "I would love that." I got on that phone call and told him the exact same story I just told you. I was getting ready to come to your church. I asked God, I got the screen recording. It is, you didn't say my name, but it is very clear you were talking about me. I don't want to assume, was this about me? And he said, "Yes, I was talking about you. I am sorry. I shouldn't have done it. I'm sorry. I think we all got you wrong were his exact words. So when you say why aren't you in the room with these people? I just happen to start asking God. I I have not always asked God, but I just started recently asking God, is it okay for me to go into this room? Is it okay for me to go to this event? Is it okay for me to go? You know how many podcasts I get invited to that I say no to? I asked permission first. I think the first time I met you, I said I say no to all podcasts. I God told me to come here. That's what you said. Yeah. The first time I met him, that's the first thing I said. I say no to all my podcast and I don't I don't want to be here. I like y'all though. I don't want to be in those rooms. I don't want to be in those circles. I know what happens in those green rooms. Gossip like girls. Those men sit in those green rooms and they gossip like girls. They smear people's names behind the scenes. That's what they do in those green rooms. That is not God. It is wrong. and nobody's clearing up. I don't want to be in the midst of it. I go home. I mind my business. I don't bother with stuff like that. I don't want to rub shoulders with these people. They're wicked people. I don't want to do it. I see how um man, it's, you know, we've we've met so many of these incredible people. I mean, that's the hundreds of people that we've met now. I'm going be honest with you. I know he caught a stray, but I'm not saying everybody's perfect, but that man Philip Mitchell is doing some really great work. He's got a revival popping off here in Atlanta. Who caught a stray? You say he caught a stray or did he give himself a stray? Did he shoot himself? Well, when I say I just want to be clear. No, no, I know what you mean. But when I say stray, I mean from this event like this um what happened with Eric Mason? No, they're all in the same circle. Had he have gone on that stage and retracted what he said publicly and apologized publicly, this wouldn't be happening in this circle. That's what that's what should have happened after that conversation. This is their circle. So now every time you get on a public platform talking about false prophets, you're insinuating me again. Get back on your pull pit and say, "I had a conversation with Tiffany and I apologized for mocking her ministry on God's altar. God didn't tell you to say that. He said God didn't tell him to say that. This is their click. Yes. I am owed a public apology. He did not catch a stray. So at this point, are you still open to communic? You open to communication? Absolutely. From everybody. Okay. Yeah. From everybody. Man, this is You know what? I'm really hoping this conversation can ignite many of the people that was spoken here to have some real conversation with one another. I'm hoping that's what really happens because I I agree with you, Tiff. Just my preferred pathway to communication is straight to me. the same way that you asking. I think that that's just relatively the most thorough way for us to communicate and just just operate in principle. Really just operate in principle, you know? Like that's the only reason even even Ryan people y'all people people be messy in the chat like Ryan ain't going to be where Taon long Tan ain't like y'all don't understand like it's a it's a certain principle that's right that we operate with and that I operate with among the people in my life and I it's just certain things I was taught like never say nothing behind nobody back you won't say to their face it's like just basic character principles that we are supposed to taught and operate with not just even amongst your friend or your best friend and not these other people but just literally across the board right with people in your life. That's correct. And I I can understand if if you wanting you know this um that standard to be upheld. So I I get it. I mean because it it truly affects the you know the average person, the average Christian. Like it's it's crazy the amount of email. First off, as soon as we put the the uh the live episode up, flooded with DMs and and emails because people are really distraught by this, you know, and because that's the the reality is cuz I get what you're saying. Everybody needs to read scripture, you know, the the likelihood that you will be deceived after continuously investing in scripture is just less likely from the level of investment, right? But most people are on the they're not there yet. Most people are piece milling together what you know the kingdom is based on what you're saying what Philip Anthony they're going it's bad that's horrible to do I completely agree but you got to work your way to that no you don't Bible says my people are destroyed because they lack knowledge now Tiffany how many people just the real how many people going to go from sinning seven days a week to reading scripture regularly many people you everything that you're doing is an anomaly. You having a successful business is an anomaly. You being able to not in my circle. I understand. But everybody's not part of that circle. Yeah. But everybody's not a part of the losing circle either. So maybe to me losing is an anomaly, right? I guess it's different of perspectives. But what I'm saying is should be that way. At the at the foundation of this walk, you're married. When you give your life to Christ, you are now a married man, a married woman. That's your covenant. Mhm. All God say is is don't cheat on me and love me. So that's like you saying somebody newly married that keep sleeping on their wife, Tiffany, they got to just kind of piece this together. They got to learn how to not cheat. That is what it's like if it's covenant, right? They they not there at covenant yet. They not there. Okay. So then we're not talking about people that are saved. I can't answer that then. You're in the world. It's nothing I'm interested in trying to tell you. If you're not saved, if you're not saved, you're on your own. talking to the body of Christ who is literally in covenant with God. If you're not saved, we have How many people? Let me ask you this. How many people you think regularly read scripture? Oh, I don't know. I don't have the statistics for that. I'm sure not many. I I don't know. I couldn't even assume. So, in the meantime, they got to take what they learned from Tiffany McGomery. They got to take stupid as it may be. That's what they doing. It is stupid. They got to take it from these different people until they get to the point where they have enough courage and accountability to invest in doing things. Discipline. Right. Stupid. So in the meantime, if their favorite people who is helping them change their life and get through life is at war, that literally causes angst in their in their inner being. Now I know it's messed up, but this is just the reality because like you said, you jump from sinning seven days a week to scripture, but most people have I had common sense, right? So what I don't want this conversation to become is this war started and everybody's equal. I want to continue to remind you guys that I woke up to this. It was unprovoked. I did not get on that stage and call and say this person is a witch. This person Well, I did say come on. This person was a uh this and that, right? But I didn't call these ministers that at all. All right. I woke up to this completely unprovoked all of that. I just want to reiterate this. This is not y'all are fighting. This is Tiffany got fought and she fought back. Understood. Two years later. One year later, Tiffany did not just wake up and fight. All of a sudden, Tiffany waited. Tiffany showed temperance. Tiffany showed patience. Tiffany showed the love of God by going to them according to scripture. So, I just want to change that narrative of they're seeing this fight. know what they're seeing is a group of OGs, a group of leaders who ganged up on one person and that one person who they didn't think was going to fight back cuz she didn't for two years and one year fought back in 2025 and now everybody's in a tizzy about it. Let me be very clear. I saw a lot of people in the comments mention saw many people in the comments say that confrontation isn't biblical. So, let's go ahead and kill that. I'm just going to read this off to you. Confrontation is a face-to-face meeting or interaction between two or more people in which issues, concerns, or disagreements are addressed and discussed openly and directly. It involves addressing a conflict or problem in a straightforward manner, seeking resolution or understanding truth, communication, and dialogue. Confrontation can be done calmly and respectfully with the goal of resolving conflicts, clarifying misunderstandings, and creating better communication in relationships. In a biblical context, confrontation is encouraged as a way to promote reconciliation, truth, and mutual edification among believers. Again, you can read Matthew 18 15-17 and Ephesians 4-15. [Laughter] Hey, you're in that chat. You need to be in that renew the mind journal taking notes. Y'all off the chain tonight. Hold on. Let me cut my minds real quick. Moderators, please drop these. Uh I need all these passages recorded here in the chat. Okay. Yeah, we got we got we still on uh what? Uh King James. Uh wait, what's the one we got? I wrote it down. Hold on. Let me find it. Go ahead. No, Kings. First Kings. That was First Kings. Kings. No, it's Kings 22, right? First Kings 22. Please read that tonight. Uh, first Kings. Absolutely. But go ahead and let's go ahead and kill the narrative, right? That you can come to God and keep sinning. Uh, keep sinning until you learn. No, it's not how that works. It's not how that works. You get married, you're faithful. No, you don't come to God and stay. Like, I get the concept you can't clean a fish until you catch it. But let's just not continue to roll over in the sin. Like, make some conscious efforts to stop. Like, that's just not how that works. You cannot do that. So, who cares if I'm an anomaly? The truth is, what's stopping you from reading your scripture? What is it? Social media? Are you giving license for that? Is it a relationship that you're in that's keeping you distracted? Is it uh obsessive with work that's keep What is keeping you from reading the Bible? And if we talk about that, then that doesn't sound like any reasons that somebody should give any leniency to to do that. But I do want to say that I don't talk to the people who aren't saved, right? They're not my concern. I pray that one day they get saved, but I don't expect them to act any different than how they're acting because they don't know truth. But who I am most of the time talking to is the body of believers who should know truth who should not be compromising who should love the scriptures and study for themselves. And the reason I kept saying no when you said until they learn they listen to you and some of their favorites here I cover by God and anybody that's been under my tutelage for a while can attest to this. I have consistently said don't trust me. M I I built everybody up to be a Berean in the word of God. And the Bereans in the Bible were people who while they appreciated you teaching them anything, they went back in the Bible and studied everything you said to make sure that what you said was true. That is how I tell. Why? Because the Bible says in the last days, if possible, even the very elect will be deceived. Do you know how scary that is? that even those of us that know scripture, if possible, we could even be deceived. So, let's not once appointed and anointed is first king 1st Samuel 15. That's also your assignment to read it because what I want you to learn is even somebody appointed by God can be taken off of their position. God can reject them. Well, that was a man of God. Not anymore. Right. Right. So, I just want to be very, very clear. that people are not just listening to me and I have become their walking talking Bible. What if I'm wrong? What if I told you part of the scripture that's wrong? You'll be held accountable to that. Not me. Don't make me a god. You will go to hell. I don't have a hell to put you in in a window. I you know, but I do know if you make me a god, you go in the one with gasoline draws on. Don't make me a god. I play a bad god. I play a very bad god. So I beg people, read the scripture for you. It's the only way you won't be deceived. Ask the Holy Ghost to interpret scripture for you. Give you revelation of what you're reading. And again, pastors are important. The five-fold is important. Preachers are important. Apostles are important. Teachers are important. These people are import. Prophets are important. Everybody has an assignment in the body of Christ. So that is not to say you can do this on your own. Yeah, sure you can. Right? But God also wants us in community. Do you know statistics say that people in community live longer? Right? I'm in community. So all I'm saying is is let's not make the lazy excuse to say until I learn a scripture I'm going just learn everything from Tiffany. No. When Tiffany gives you a scripture, 1st Samuel 15, when Tiffany gives you a scripture, First Kings 22, read it to make sure what I said was true. Don't take my word for it just cuz y'all love me. Don't take my word for it just because you love me. You'll be deceived every time. There you have it. There you have it. That was a Yeah, I like that. That was action. That was a No, that's a that's a very powerful message. And as much as we don't like to hear it, unfortunately, a lot of y'all know, whether it's you or somebody you know, folks whole knowledge of the Bible been broken by their pastor for the last x amount of years. And that's a that's a hard ugly truth. Y'all getting mad at Ryan saying it, but it's happening out here. And I hope you got that call to action fully understand, accepted, and that's why we got the community so we can help each other with those things. So, absolutely, cuz we in there rereading that word daily. We own it. And this the thing, um, guys, I know I want to remind people, we're giving away 20 Cover by God t-shirts. All you got to do is click the free giveaway link. I want to say it's pinned in the top of the chat. Don't worry about what it actually says, the photo on there. Just put out your name, phone number, and email. We will send that over to you guys. And what I want to do is uh we got 7200 people in the chat right now. Shout out to Terrence in the chat too from the community, our moderator. Big shout out to Terrence. Yeah. So re real quick, I want to go through some of these and we got some people. We got Marcus Rogers in the chat. We was going crazy. So let me read some of these real quick. Shout out to Marcus Rogers says, "Anybody saying sis is a witch got demons. How she a witch preaching holiness and calling out witches like Beyonce. Jackie and Preston put that bug in Philip's ear. Respect to sis, she's still standing on biblical business. Anybody who disagree don't know Bible. Shout out to Rose says, "It seems like you guys are making all sorts of excuses for these people that lied on Tiffany. And why is it bad for her to go and defend herself and brought receipts yet is being ignored?" Lord bless you, Tiffany. Shout out to King's Corner says, "People need to constantly pray for discernment and to be filled with the Holy Spirit. Most people lack both saved and unsaved. That's why most are easily deceived. Discernment and the Holy Spirit is key. Shout out to Messo Bless. Shout out to Roselyn F. Shout out to Jean Antoine. Shout out to Shironda Pier. Shout out to an Angel Turner says, "Let's say you right and they're wrong. What makes you greater than Jesus? He was talked about and wrongly accused. If it's about the kingdom, focus on that. This is an emotional tantrum." What you got to say to people that say that that think that too? I say why are you allowed to give your opinion in the comments, but I'm not allowed to give my truth to a situation my name is involved with. Somebody said it was gossip and gossip is not something that your name is involved with. It's my name. So my question to the hypocrite that said that and the many hypocrites in the comments is if I am not to say anything, if I'm supposed to stay silent, why are they not showing me with their own fruit of silence in the comments? Why are they why do they get to lend their opinion about my situation and I don't get to bring truth to a lie of something that was trying to smear my name? That's my question. And to the other people that says, uh, Jesus didn't, uh, respond, then write this down. You study this tonight. Matthew 23. Everybody study that tonight. So that you can shut up about Jesus not responding. He didn't respond when he was headed to the cross. But every other time, Jesus responded. Jesus responded. I specifically want everybody to read Matthew 23 and be able to open up their mouth again to say what Jesus did not respond to. Let me read some Matthew. Me too. We tore up through Matthew. I wish I had my Bible. We'll read Matthew 23 again. Would you like to borrow mine? I am. No, I'm going read it again. I got you. Shout out to Shironda Pierce. Pocket book right there. Yeah, nice right there. Shout out to Shironda Pierce says, "I asked a simple question, y'all. Some hateful people talking about I wasted $20 or lashing out against me. Obviously, I didn't hear her say she did. I don't hang on everywhere. Y'all sick. I think Shironda dropped the chat for the chat. Oh wow. So shout out to Shironda. She said down in there again. She says, "Did you exercise Matthew 18 with Matthew Stevenson or speak with his covering?" Oh, I love who you know to be Apostle John Eert. And why speak death over Matthew Stevenson knowing his history of early death of father and grandfather dying on the same day? We going we going into beef that I don't even know about now. No, I seen that. That's the light the the lighterkinned gentleman um with the short with the the buzz cut. No, that's not him. Who are you talking about? Oh, never mind. Who was Matthew? Okay, never mind. Look, now you My bad. My bad. Listen, no disrespect to Matthew Stevenson. They got people catching strays now. Ryan got Ryan throwing straight. I thought that was Matthew Stevenson. Okay, I'm mixed up. Let me look up a photo of Matthew Stevenson. So, I went to that organization in 2017. I was only there for 5 months. Um, I started having dreams of a lot of perversion going on in the organization. I started to ask questions about it. Uh, and essentially I was put out of the church. When they launched a very strong spiritual witchcraft attack against me, I didn't know what was going on. And I of course requested a meeting. Now, when I first got to the organization, I remember I sat in the back of the church cuz I didn't want anybody People don't know I'm incredibly shy. Like very shy. So, if I can go No. Yeah. For sure. For sure. You don't see me out anywhere. You don't see me at any events. You don't see me anywhere. I'm invited. I just don't go. I'm incredibly shy. Wow. Yeah. If I can keep to myself, I I just would. But I sat in the back of the church and he announced Tiffany Montgomery is here and told me to come up to the front of the church, introduce me to everybody. Everybody already knew who I was, so it was like a loud clap. And he said, "From here on out, she sits in the first two rows of the church, right?" Uh, I was asked to lead the entrepreneurial uh thing and I said no. The reason I said no is because I wanted to learn. Mhm. I didn't want to be in a leadership position. I declined cuz I just wanted to learn and uh it was a different lesson that I learned, right? But I learned nonetheless upon my leaving the church because I didn't know why they were had an odd against me. I didn't know how I went all of them from having all of this favor. As a matter of fact, I do remember one of my best friends. She was the intercessor of the church and the chief prophetist of the church uh was incredibly jealous of her and um the chief prophetist was trying to get me not to be her friend. Now mind you, I don't know church politics. I come from the street. So when you giving me reasons why I shouldn't be this person's friend, I don't have group think. I have my own mind. Well, this person hasn't never done anything to me. Um and so I'm going to make up my own decision about that. The second I decided to take up for my friend who was the intercessor of the church, I had a target on my head. From that moment on, they wanted me out. I requested a meeting in person. I was declined the meeting. And then I requested a meeting via email. I still have that email. Uh I requested the meeting about three to four times and I was declined three to four times. I wrote a letter since many people think that I am out of order and full of rebellion and all of those things. I wrote a letter and my letter said, "Thank you for the time that I had here. Um, I am no longer a member of this church, but thank you for the time that I had, Tiffany. They should still have that on file. I have the email." So, for every one of you that think that I did things out of order or anything like that, I didn't. I I not only requested a meeting and was dishonored and disrespected, right? And a lot of things happened there. I I have the full story. It was awful. It was so much spiritual wickedness. Nonetheless, he gets on live and calls me a witch. He gets on live and actually tells all of my business. He did a live called Lunatics in Ministry. beautiful women that have conferences and teach people about business and have great branding and pictures but have a sudden death of a family sudden death of a f of parent. My dad had just died last than the month before. Wow. Oh man, that's had multiple abortions. Well, everybody know that. That's my testimony. He called it lunatics in ministry. Yeah, that was the title of the live. So, I didn't even know he was live. My cousin who my little my baby cousin who was still following him because I didn't tell anybody I had left the church. That's how messy I I'm not. I didn't pick up my phone and tell anybody I'm not a part. Don't Don't follow him. Don't do this. I didn't tell anybody that. Not even my own daughter. She I would still let her go to the church cuz I didn't know what was up. And I know that may sound stupid, but I did cuz I wanted her in a church. This is why I don't play those games no more. He did a live called Lunatics in Ministry. My baby cousin called me and she said, "Hey, I think your pastor's talking about you." I get on the live like I did Eric Mason's and the same exact thing he said was Tiffany's a witch. She's a witch. And everybody in his comments like no Apostle I think you're talking about the wrong Tiffany. I think you're talking about the wrong person. That because nobody knew the history. So you were able to do a live tell all of my business that I shared in a pastorial counsel session. Wow. And you wouldn't even take a meeting to tell me why you all attacked me in this church. But you got on a live and called me a witch. That happened in 2017, y'all. I stay silent until 2019. So when people say, "All she does is attack people. All she does is this and that. All she does is no. All Tiffany does is forgive fast." I turned down my plate and I forgave him. I forgave the whole church. I forgave the whole network. These people were right. These people were making shirts. Said, "Which please?" Yeah. You want to talk about what they've done? That's That's sick. Egregious. That's sick. Which please? Yes. Against me. A little old me. Mind you, I'm very fresh in the church. I'm very fresh in all of this. So, the attack you see happening today happened, as a matter of fact, when I was talked about last week, that video came out on the exact day I left that church in 2018. 2017. The exact day, eight years later. That's that's you can't ignore that. With that being said, because I'm glad the woman of God asked that question. I hope that answers everybody that I went to him. Yeah. I tried several times. It was about four to five times that I went in person. I knocked on the doors. I would drive to the church and say, "Can I have a meeting? I went to the assistant. Can I schedule a meeting?" They would schedule the meeting and then when I showed up for the meeting say, "Oh, it needs to be rescheduled." And then they just stopped answering my emails for the meeting. So, I just left with a letter. The letter was very respectful. Thank you for my time here. I'm no longer a member of this church. I got called a witch a few months later. After you tell all my business online, I don't say anything. Now, I am today a lot more polished than I was then cuz you got to understand, I used to fight in real life. So, I I did what God taught me to do when I got saved. I forgave fast. I went on a fast, turned down my plate, and the only thing I did was say, "I forgive him. I forgive them. He wasn't just the only one. I forgive the chief prophetist. I forgive all of these people that did this to me. I forgive these people. And God by his grace took what they did out of my heart because I knew it was the assignment of hell to make me hate church and hate me hate all of these things and I didn't do it. I I I am very responsible for sending a lot of my followers to a lot of different churches. Uh which I don't do anymore, but I love church. I love God's church. With that being said, the second question was, did you try to talk to his covering? Well, his covering caught me, John Egart, and said to me, "Good on you for saying that to him. Somebody should have said something to him." And I said, "Well, why don't you say it? It's true story. I may be many things to many people, but I am not a liar." I said, "Why won't you say anything to him?" He said, "I can't. He won't listen to me." Those were his exact words. First of all, you got a bunch of people standing for you in the chat right now. Big shout out to uh EJ, Prophet EJ, who was also on here a while back. Tiffany is being used by the Lord. This isn't gossip. This is conviction. A lot of a lot of people are not used to seeing a black woman speak up boldly and with conviction. It's not pride. It's conviction. Praying for everyone involved and correction in love. Amen. Shout out to Lola's, man. We We might be doing too much, but the hotline is like steaming right now. I I need to finish though. Okay, go ahead. Yes, we got to Yes. The question, the accusation was I didn't go to him alone. I hope this all proves that as a b I was super a babe in Christ. I did according to Matthew 18. I then went to his his covering came to me and said, "Good for you for standing up for him." And my exact question to him was, "John Eart, why didn't you do it?" And he said, "Well, he won't listen to me. I'll stop there, but I just want to let you know I was dead dirty. Moving on to the ne the last question she asked was how something paraphrasing how did I feel comfortable releasing death on him right on the stage. I would like for everybody to go to the cover by God called You've Been Warned and hear what was said. Because one thing God taught me about the spirit of pride is that it will twist and contort your words. How do you know you're operating or somebody you're talking to is operating with a spirit of pride? They have hands like this over their ears and the second you say something, they grab your words before it reaches your ears, scrambles it like this, and then let you hear what wasn't said. There is no way on earth anybody can listen to that cover by God and say that I pronounced death on that person. Never have I ever pronounced death on any I'm too afraid of God to do that. I sat in that seat while Prophet Beaver was on the stage telling everybody to repent. I couldn't hear anything else when the Lord had brought Matthew Stevenson to my face. He said, "Release this word over him." And I I sat in that seat and I said, "God, can you let me sleep on it and release it another time?" I said, "I can't release this word." Like, it's no way. What if I said, "All of my followers don't even know who he is. What if they start following him again? He's not safe." I had I was having this tugof-war with God in the seat. And God said to me, "If he died tomorrow and you didn't release this word, how would you feel?" And I said, "I wouldn't be able to get no sleep." He said, "Release the word." I sat in that seat and I said, "God, I pray that I'm hearing you accurately. I fear you. I pray that I'm hearing you accurately. Please tell me that I'm hearing you accurately." That's that's what I was pleading with God in the seat. As a matter of fact, I said to God, "I don't even like him. Why would I?" It was a I felt the father's heart, which is what I said on the mic. I felt the father's heart towards him. I felt the the burden of God, the grief of God, crying over him. How do you accuse me of decreeing death over him when I said I felt the father's heart over him? Now, most people had an issue with me saying I didn't like him. But prophet Micaiah didn't like Ahab before he had to give the prophetic word. Prophet Elijah didn't like Ahab when he had to give him the prophetic word. Prophet Elisha didn't like Gerobam, Jezebel and Ahab's son, when he had to give them the prophetic word. Like, where in the Bible does it say you have to like somebody to obey God? In that moment, what God did to me was had me kill my flesh and say, "Obeying God in that moment was bigger than who I liked and didn't like." So I got on that stage and I said, 'The Lord said, 'You have to repent because death is at your door. And I don't even know if I said that verbatim. I just want everybody to go and listen exactly what I said. But there was redemption in that. There was mercy in that. Repent and this thing will turn. I had thousands of people stand up on their feet and we interceded for him. How do you say somebody decreed death and there was intercession on his behalf? That's a wild thing to say. So, we want to be very careful with how we relay an information. And we want to be very careful by saying, "God didn't tell somebody to say this." What if he did? And as a matter of fact, the people that are mad that I gave that warning to him hate him. Do you know how much I would want somebody to tell me this is what's happening so I could repent and turn it around? You have to hate that man to be mad that I released that word. The the last thing I want to say about that was I'll bring it back, Holy Ghost. He'll bring it back to me. It was right at the front of my mind. It was something that somebody said about it. Um it'll come back to me. Oh, thank you, Holy Ghost. What he said was somebody just said, "When you knew that his father and his grandfather died on the same day, as God is my witness." When I released that word, I didn't remember that cuz I only heard it said in 2017. As God as my witness, that never crossed my mind, nor did God ever remind me of that while I was sitting there. Never. So, I hope that answers everybody's questions about how Tiffany's principles work and how Tiffany handles things. And let me just answer this. Somebody said, "How do you how do you handle if they never apologize to you? What do you do next?" I'm I've already moved on with my life. I didn't start this fight. After a few years of them fighting, I finally said something. But I didn't start the fight. So, they're forgiven. I move on with my life. Prayerfully, people's eyes are open and they see this for what it is, which is altar verse altar. This is a spiritual fight. It's not a natural fight. I'm not a messy person. I'm not a gossiping woman. I am also not a liar. And so I just pray that everybody just goes on their separate ways and leave me alone. Anybody that considers myself an enemy watching this right now knows that they have nothing to worry about from me. I don't want no beef with you. We got a man, we got so many super chats in here. Larry Reed just dropped another blessing on us. He said, "I covered this back then. I verified everything she said even with Apostle uh Eert Eert. She was done wrong by Matthew in this. It was a type of betrayal. Yeah. Shout out to Larry Reed because I I literally when I as soon as I looked up Matthew Stevenson, his coverage of uh the the story and it's literally got a thumbnail and I see you and Matthew Stevenson on there. See, whoever that light-skinned brother I was talking about just I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It wasn't It wasn't you. Yeah. Forgive this brother. I don't know who not knowing the T and Right. Exactly. I I I need to ask this here too because you brought this up a couple times, Tiffany, and I've heard women speak on this and it's affecting them. Um, but you talked about misogyny and a lot of this happening because of you being a woman. Do you feel like just in ministry in general as a woman, you are it's a it's a different fight because you're a woman and people wanting to prevent a woman to rise in this space in ministry. Is that a thing? 10,000%. Uh I had an apostle here in Atlanta uh message me and encourage me today and saying hey from the beginning of time men have had a problem with women in ministry and in other sectors of the world so stay encouraged right uh this didn't start with me it won't end with me um but I am encouraged to know that there are men who do stand for God's women uh back God's women and um make sure they're encouraged. Uh I do know that there are a lot of men that are out of position. So because of that, they're very insecure about what God is doing in the life of women. And um and I believe that this is a spirit that's gone out of Jezebel and misogyny that's trying to kill the influence and the voice of God's women. But God is not going to have it. God is for real a a girl's dad. Like God is a girl's dad. Like you can't like God loves his women. God loves his girls. God loves his babies. Like God loves us. We're the apple of his eye. Say there's a wall of fire round about her. Glory in her midst. Like God loves He's like a He's a girl's dad. So it's it's definitely a problem. Um you're going to see a lot more of men coming up against women in ministry. But what you will see is the women now coming up against them. And that's not what we've seen in a while. We have not seen women fight back. But you're going to see women who are not jezebelic, women who are not feminist, women who know the order and still fight back with the sword in their mouth against the spirit of Jezebel and the and these men. You may say, Tiffany, what's the spirit of Jezebel? If you go to Romans Revelations 2:20, you look up the Strong's concordance. The Bible defines Jezebel as one who protects idolatry and persecutes God's prophets. So, anybody that protects idolatry, I know you had one of my best friends, Rochelle T. Parks, on here. Shout out to Ro is pretty mad at her in the comments. Can you imagine how many people get mad at her for talking about food? Oh, cuz cuz she's speaking to like the demon with the sugar diabetes romance. Crazy. She's incredible. But watch how many people attack her. They're protecting idolatry and persecuting God's prophet for telling them the truth. That's what a jezebelic spirit is. Hey, stop sleeping with that man. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. They're protecting idolatry and now persecuting God's prophets. That's what a Jezebel spirit is. And so, you're getting ready to see women rise up like never before and start speaking truth to these things. Many of us talk about pre prophetist Dborah, but we don't talk about prophetsha. Prophet Hilda was Jeremia Prophet Jeremiah's cousin in the Bible. She was an entrepreneur. The Bible says that she was a keeper of clothes. She was also a wife. But she was one that the governmental officials would come to her for the word of the Lord and wouldn't go to Jeremiah. We don't talk about Phoebe in the Bible who was a securer or in other words she financed what the men did. We don't talk about Lydia, a wealthy woman. We don't we don't talk about these women enough. We don't talk about uh Priscilla and Aquilla. That was a husband and wife team that discipled Paul for a little bit of time. The Bible named her for a reason because she was instrumental in his disciplehip because God loves his women and God knows that our position is important. And it's only the weak men that are trying to tear us down. But there will be a rising of women that women that come up against it. Not in a way that would emasculate men, but in a way that will cut the head of the Jezebel spirit and the men that's come talking through them. So, I guess that's just something that women in ministry going to just experience. I mean, now for the they on their own on own call for for the and I'm curious to hear what you say about that because this this conversation has come up um in Timothy where it communicates that a woman, you know, pretty much should be silent and they should not be able to lead a flock. I'm I'm paraphrasing for sure. What? How do you feel? Where does it say a woman should be silent at? Not in the Bible. I'm just saying does it say the woman should be silent in the church? Correct. Is that what it said? I'm pretty. Let me confirm. Let's confirm that. Let's confirm that. But that's the I know that's the the verse my brothers typically refer to when we talking about this. And it is let's see uh 1 Timothy a woman should learn uh what is this 1 Timothy uh chapter 2 11 11-15 a woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man she must be quiet. Is that what they is that what you're referring to? That is what I'm referring to. When when you hear that, does that h how does that does that have anything to do with your ministry or do you feel like that's let let me let me finish this one real quick. So, I'm going start over. A woman should learn in quietness in full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man. She must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve, and Adam was not the one deceived. It was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing if they continue in faith, love, and holiness with propriety. So Paul uh dealt with a little bit of pride. That's why in the book of Acts chapter 9, it says scales fell off of his eyes. Uh when you think of scales, scales is a scaly dragon. In the book of Job, uh he was the Leviathan. He's a marine kingdom spirit. He was the um the whole he was the king of pride is what I'm trying to say. So when Paul was saved on the street called straight on the road to Damascus, the scales fell off of his eyes. Uh meaning he saw from the perspective of pride. He perceived from the perspective of pride. Uh Saul who was now the apostle Paul was very much a misogynist and things of that nature. But the question I would have to pose before I answer your question about what he meant by that scripture is if he did not believe that women shouldn't preach uh then why did he allow a Priscilla and Aquilla to uh minister to him when he got saved. Right? So he would have to answer that. Nonetheless, historians say that during these times men sat on one side of the church and women sat on the other side of the church. And because the women were unlearned, when they had a question, they would yell over to their husband and ask them for the questions and ask them for the answers. And the husband would yell back the answers. And he said, "Everybody should be quiet. Women be quiet." That is what historians say happened in that moment. Um, and so that's got to be the most red pill verse I've ever read. For sure. And and let me say this, right? Women saved through childbearing. Yeah. Let me say this is crazy. I also know for sure that we're coming up on a time where people are going to hell. Okay? People are going to hell. The book of Jude says, "Some are saved with compassion, but some are saved with the fear of the Lord." This is for everybody that thinks that everybody should be saved nicely and everybody should be done nicely and all of that. Do you know all throughout scripture when somebody dropped dead, the next verse says, "And the word of God grew mightily." The Apostle Paul struck a sorcerer with blindness because that sorcerer was withstanding the word of God from being preached to the deputy. When he struck him with blindness, the fear of the Lord hit the church. And the Bible says everybody got afraid and got saved. In the book of Acts, Herod took God's glory. New covenant, he stole God's glory. The Bible says an angel came down, smokeote him. He died immediately. And the next verse says, "And the word of God grew mightily." All throughout scripture, somebody can drop dead. And the Bible says, "And the word of God grew mightily." So, we want to make sure that we are not looking at all of this from the perspective of our flesh. Could it be possible that when God does these things, cuz God told me the year of 2025, we it was going to be a year of revival or rebellion. Either you are going to reap the consequences of your rebellion against God this year or you would reap the fruit of your obedience which would be revival. That's a scary thing. God said is every man for themselves. Because before we can see a national and global revival that everybody's always praying about, there has to be a personal revival. Has to be a personal revival. To be a personal revival. That's what God said. He said, "This year, I gave the prophetic word, December 2024, we were going to see a lot of death and destruction." God said it will be his doing. He's coming to clean up shop. It's cleanup time. So, what we should all be doing, which is what I'm doing in my private time, minding my business before I am brutally woken up to being called a witch, is I'm begging God for mercy. God, if I've done anything that's against you, if I've done anything that has grieved you, if I have any enemy in my soul that goes up against you, please show me mercy. I repent. Before I mount that pull pit, I say, "God, I fear you. Don't let me get on here and say something that's not of you. I repent for all of my sins. Forgive me. I forgive everybody. I don't mount that pull pit without getting my heart right with God because I heard what God said this year. May my whole life reflect God's glory. May my whole life reflect revival. Let my personal life reflect revival. Let the life of my family reflect revival. Let the life of covered by God refle reflect revival. Let the life of millions conference reflect revival. That's what it is. I want to, you know, you got something. Well, yeah. I wanted to um because I want to make Well, go ahead. Go ahead. This is uh Well, I got a I mean, this this is probably something I should probably close out with to be honest. Okay, good. So, let's go through these real quick. Shout out to uh Alicia Cameron for sending over the super chat. Shout out to uh Tanishia Murphy says, "Ryan asked Tiff about private recordings, but never said anything about the public recordings from those men." Ryan, do you notice the tendency to miss the stuff men do, but critical when women respond? Exactly. You agree with that? I thought I was covering it pretty. She wasn't at all. And she saw it, too. Listen, my my my bad. My my bad, Miss Tanisha. Miss Tanisha, that's Christian right there. I'll make sure I'm, you know, cover all all facet of this thing. Shout out to uh Arm Sturgis for sending over the super chat and King's Corner and shout out to Lola's Vow. Yeah, they kind of got all mixed up, but um I I think Oh, real quick. Shout out to Terence Woodley, member for 18 months and shout out to uh and in the high life. Yeah, shout out to Lisa uh I'm sorry, Lydia Weir, who I also love. I love for both of those. And this is the thing cuz I'm going to answer this for both people. So, we got the community. Shout out to Terrence uh in the community, the Highife community, guys. So, you got to click the link that says join community. so you can see what it's about. But it's pretty much a spiritual gym. It's it's it's what you need the bridge between church on Sundays and the rest of your week, guys. So, it's an accountability aspect. It's the chat aspect. It's the curriculum that we got in there. Hopefully, Tiffany actually be able to join us on there very soon. And then we got um and Lydia also, we we drop the episodes premiere every Sunday at 400 p.m. This is just really a state of emergency that we had to come tonight live with Tiffany. He just so happened to be in Atlanta and all of the uh the accusations and all of those things just needed to be addressed this week. So, this is why we did it at live on Thursday. But this is very unique to the platform. We will not continue to do lives uh unless it's one of these type of situations. You can just expect a new episode to premiere every Sunday at 4 p.m. at 400 p.m. Yep. So, Tiff, you made a very bold statement. I put it right on the thumbnail. Matter of fact, it's a sound right here. It's a war. All right. So, you said that it's a war, right? I said if you want, if war was what you want, you got it. Okay. You got it. Let me ask you this. What's the in your vision of why this war is here? And what's the goal of it, right? What do you see coming from this like or even what would you like to see if there is an ideal situation to come from all of this chaos? If there's a light at the end of the tunnel, what would that be? So, I'll say I believe that the demonic goal of all of this, because I want to reiterate one more time, I did not start this fight. I woke up to it. It was completely unprovoked. They have been picking with me for years. I have never responded. I've never written subliminal posts, nothing. I'm not a subliminal person. By the time I say something, I'm saying your name. With that being said, I believe that the demonic goal of it was if Jezebel can't kill you, which is what she wants to do, she will try to kill your name, your influence, and everything connected with you. Um, and so I believe that the campaign of smearing my name, which the word campaign is a military term. I believe that that assignment was to try to take me down. The problem is you can't take down what God put up. God would have to take me down. Uh the Bible says in Isaiah 1:18 and 19, I've made you a defense city. I made you iron pillars. Though they will come against you, they will not prevail against you. That is my promise from God. You can't take me down, unfortunately. Right? But that was the goal of it. When I spoke the truth to what happened, I did not get on live without great turning down my plate before God and asking him, "What's going on? How do you want me to respond to you? And what would give you glory?" I made sure I came and responded in sobriety. I made sure that I came and responded with truth. And so I believe that the goal was it was to kill the lie. Now, whoever wants to believe whatever they want to believe after this, that's on you, right? I am asking again to speak with Preston Perry's covering so that we can play the recordings of me asking if you see anything I'm teaching that is in error. Can you please call me and let me know? And he agreed to it. I would like to speak to their covering and I would like to play those recordings publicly and let the public decide since I've been called a liar. But I believe that God wanted to bring truth to a lie. And I believe that the church has become so used to people being passive aggressive and people falling back and people just staying silent because of the spirit of molestation that everybody gets their panties in a bunch when a woman of God comes full of scripture and with truth to shut down a lie. Only Satan himself would be this agitated, vexed, and triggered that a woman of God brought truth to a lie to end it all. Now my goal after this is I love reconciliation. If any of them um came and said I want to say sorry for doing this to you, I would of course accept their apology. Um I would ask that the apology would be as public as the dishonor was. But either way, I would accept the apology. I would just expect not to be posted about anymore and spoken about anymore. I would like to go on with my own life. Let's everybody have peace. what you want from me, right? Um, and that that's my goal. I I've I'm calling out to it now publicly. I would like to speak to their coverings. I would like to play the recordings. And uh I would like to bring truth to a lie. I want the lies stopped. Many people say you shouldn't defend yourself. Again, I'm going to say one more time, if I shouldn't defend myself, what gives you the right to make a comment in the comments? And this is not about you. As a matter of fact, your name is about to be smeared soon. Make sure you don't defend yourself. Make sure when they smell your name at your job, make sure when they smell your name in your family, make sure that when they smear your name at your church, make sure when you make sure you don't say a word and you let them lie on you and you remember what you said to me. and family. There you have it right there, man. Tiff, I I I appreciate you asking the hard questions. I wanted to answering them. Uh answering Yeah. answering the hard questions. You know, we we try to come with the hard questions. Yeah. you know, to make sure that we can really fully get all galvanize all of the thoughts of, you know, where everybody might be coming at because I I know you already do a good job on your platform addressing each one of those thoughts, but um you know, me and Ryan really try to bring clarity um as much as we can in the confusion that's going on in the confusion um in our community. you know, as you know, we look up to many of the people right now having issues, but I hope this conversation can also bring clarity and really inspire us to have direct dialogue, y'all, with one another. Absolutely. If y'all ever catch me, anybody, I'm letting y'all know right now in wax, just as Tiffany said in conversation, if y'all feel like I ever said anything, y'all can hit my line direct. Yeah. You ain't got to put me on a thumbnail and talk about how I'm have a demonic altar or subliminally talk about you knowing it's about you or sublim souls. Mhm. And that should be the priority, y'all. That really should be the priority of what we doing here. So, Tiff, thank you, you know, for coming up on here again. Yeah, as you do. Big shout out to Terica Lynn Smith, TCP popping off this weekend. Yeah, we dropping we dropping her episode on. We going to drop her episode this week. Let me tell you, it's crazy because he just every now and then, you know, we ask each other, "What's our favorite episode?" But she actually right now standing, she has my favorite episode. She has my favorite episode. So fire. It's crazy. did hundreds of episodes. Yeah. And it's my favorite testimony in particular for sure. 1,000% vivid. It's like it's like a book. It's like you could literally picture it the imagery in your head while she's telling it. Yeah. Horrifying. It's so horrifying. And and to see what she's done today is incredible. So, I'm very excited for you guys to see that. That's coming out this Sunday at 4 p.m. And just even to talk about her charact, she's my best friend, right? But even to talk about her character, you're talking about a bloodline breaker in the family. You're talking about somebody who all odds was every odd was against her and she broke I mean I everybody should listen to that podcast. Her her story is dynamic because of her. I have uh over 500 properties and I'm also a real estate developer. So I'm not just an investor in real estate. I'm also a developer. Oh, listen. We we already told Yeah. Yeah. We already told her. We try to get the gang, too. Right. Send us super chat so we can be real estate developers. We got to get them K's up. The M's up. That's right. But you want to know why you want to get the M's up? Tell me why. Because when they start hating you for telling the truth and they try to blackball you, you're still wealthy. That's true. That's true. And shout out to YouTube. You don't want to be controlled. Like it's something especially, you know, cuz first off, I already know we pissing people off today. Absolutely. That's just kind of what it is. That's a part of But truth does. That's why the That's why Paul said, "Have I now become your enemy because I told you the truth?" You know, it says that in the Bible. Have I now become your enemy because I told you the truth? That's why conferences like millions conference is so important. Is making sure that you have the in the book of Ecclesiastes, he says, don't just have seven streams of income. You should have eight. Yeah. You don't want to be put in a position where the second you start speaking truth, people can blackball you. That is witchcraft. Is wickedness and it happens all the time. It does. That's true. And you know, it's just uh very, you know, especially what you tell in the Matthew Stevenson story. It's like, let me tell you what he did. Sorry. Go ahead. Just the context. I was having my millions conference that year. He didn't tell me what I had done wrong. I asked for the meetings. He called five speakers that were speaking at my conference and told them all to come off. All five of those speakers listened to them. Each one of their churches when all of their people got tickets to come to that conference, every pastor of their church told their people not to come. Wow. And nobody would hold a meeting with me to tell me what I had done wrong. I've experienced some things. I mean, I don't think it's just you. It's it's millions of people. I mean this we have whole entire shows on church hurt and church gatekeeping where people are just for whatever reason you know really big for ministers having money um all of this outside of outside of this so that if they ever try to blackball you that you're literally unblackballable. I'm probably going to have you guys at Millions conference to do um a segment even just on this journey and where you are but everybody should be at this year's mill millions conference. is literally an economic answer for the nation. What God is getting ready to do at this millions conference, do you guys know the second I'm getting ready to promote millions conference, something like this always happens. Yeah. I was supposed to launch it on June 1st, but I had to fight these people first because I don't like to muddy my conference in with this, but since since 2017, this has been happening. So, I know that this is an economic answer for the earth. There is something the enemy does not want. leaders, visionaries, disruptors, prophetic reformers, entrepreneurs, multi- They don't want you to know something that God is getting ready to release on us. That one of our prayers is nothing flies under our prophetic radar in 2025. Whatever is getting ready to hit this earth, we will know what's happening before it happens. So, I'm definitely going to have you guys at at Millions Conference this year. Um, it's going to be very powerful. There you have. You know where it's at yet? It's in Atlanta, Georgia. ATL, baby. Congratulations. It's actually Atlanta, Georgia, August 29th and 30th. And you can go to millionsconference.com to get your tickets. And I will be obviously doing a formal, you know, launching of it. But if they want to get their tickets right now, go to millionsconference.com. It's going to be fire. Excellent. Booked and busy, baby. Booked and busy. Hey, we ready for that. We ready for that. And in the meantime, y'all, if you are looking for an incredible community with uh believers who are all striving to really be disciplined, faith, family, and fitness, and not just fitness in the flesh, I'm talking about your discipline, your routines, and everything else behind it. The high life is here for you guys this month. We are fighting the flesh. All right, it's happening. So, y'all can go ahead and join. We would love to be in there. Me and Ryan is very active in the community. I see some people from the community in here in the chat now loving this thing here. So, big shout out to everybody here in the high life. We absolutely love you guys. We going to see you guys on Monday. And uh what you got, Lo? Oh, man. Oh, Lo, listen. Lo said Lo said he trying to help. He said we need to get this money. Look at Lo. Yeah. Y'all better donate to us. Donate to us. Say we need that. We need that. Absolutely. We appreciate everybody that contributes to our platform. Y'all been doing it in here via super chats. That's one way the YouTube membership. Big shout out to anybody that steals, sends us anything to the cash app and the PayPal. It helps us consistently bring out this content, this transformation, and even do the new things we about to get to because now y'all, we launched the community events are coming. So the listen, it's the it's coming full scale y'all. So we putting it together day by day. So, thank you guys for everybody that cont uh contributes. Thank you again, Tiffany Montgomery. Thank you for having me. One of always one of the most compelling conversations we can ever have. One of my favorite guests here on Hardly Initiated and uh I just appreciate you. I really do appreciate you. I don't appreciate you coming up here with that little fat ring on the finger. I'm like, "Oh my god." First of all, let me tell y'all, let me tell y'all stunt. So, Tiff was on on my virtual proposal, you know? So my proposal that I put online, I was there with the family. We was having a good time watching. So first of all, listen, in my family, I ain't I don't got no big save family. All right. So it was going down on that Zoom. All right. So revival need to break out in my family. I am delivered. But so Tiffany was on a Zoom with with the family and boy oh boy, we saved that Zoom and it is absolutely hilarious. Oh, y'all saved it. We saved the virtual Zoom. That's dope. You got people trying to figure out how to turn the cameras on. It was hilarious. You got people trying to say like, "He ain't talking loud enough. What's going on, man?" T first off, he was whispering cuz he was so choked up. Yeah. He was so choked up. So he couldn't he, you know, the word he couldn't say to talk louder. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you know when you like talking but you got to keep cuz if you get a little louder be like So, you know, we had to get it together. But what I would say is just be baby. You see, you see the ring tiff rock. Just be glad with what you got. You be glad with what you got. There's levels to it. Let me say this. I think what God did in the life of Tyon is incredible. When I first came to to to this podcast, he was the least likely. That's what everybody. That's what everybody say. Why put me behind Ryan? The least likely. Okay. Alano had a chance before you had a chance. That's nasty. The least likely. this guy was. And I never forget, I mean, I was on a mission. I was like, I'm getting these guys saved. I don't join nobody's podcast. I must be here for a reason. I'm Operation Get Them Saved. And I'll never forget, you all said that you would do a deliverance session with Pastor Bev. And y'all chickened out. Yep. And so he called me trying to chicken out like, "Hey, T, you know, we just a little tired. We're not going to make it." I said, "Tashan, I will see you here in 30 minutes." He told So he came out of obligation cuz y'all wouldn't come. Mhm. He's stuck in this room with this little white lady. He has no idea who she is. Telling him, telling all her business. He leaves out praying in the Holy Ghost. You can't tell me that that's not God. That is God. I am the Lord. That is God. God transformed his heart and conviction started to come. I can't live like this. I can't be like this. I can't do this. I say all that to say, true. when I watched him propose and she put her foot down. Okay. Like you can't even get none until she she did. That was after that first episode we did with That's correct. She did. That's conviction. That's repentance. That's God. So for me to sit there and watch that, I was very teary eyed because I said, "This is what God's transformative power looks like. This is what God's grace looks like. This is what God's mercy looks like. This is what it looks like when the least likely get saved. This is what it looks like when the least likely decides to do it the right way. That lets us know that nobody is too far off from God. It doesn't matter what your lifestyle looks like. It I remember laughing with you. Yeah. Yeah. And God arrested you and you when I say he took her and was so excited about her like excited about his bride. Excited like I saw the joy. I was so excited about what God was doing. So I just want to just I'm excited. You're next. And Lo, you're next. This ain't silence. Silence. I'm down with that though, Tiff. I'm down. going to need one of them Bev Tucker sessions real quick. Right. Right. He might need two. Don't tell me what a good time. All right. Hey, that's where he at. That's where he at right now. We need to save that boy. Right. Right. Right. We working on them. We're working on it. That's it. Yeah. It's nothing's too hard for God. Nothing is too hard for is a light thing for God. Agreed. Light work, baby. Light work, baby. Thank you y'all for tuning in. Oh, man. That was refreshing to another incredible episode of Harley Initiated. I hope y'all was y'all got out of this which I was supposed to get out of this. This wasn't just supposed to be no tea. I hope you got the principle out of this message that you should have gotten out of it. We love you guys. We appreciate you guys. And y'all already know how we do it. Hardly initiated. We are out. [Music] Hey, hey, [Music] hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, [Music] hey, Hey, hey, hey, hey, [Music] hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. [Music] Hey, [Music] hey, hey, [Music] hey, hey, hey, [Music] Hey, [Music] hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, [Music] hey, hey, hey, [Music] Hey, [Music] hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, [Music] hey, Hey, [Music] hey, hey, hey, [Music] hey, hey, [Music] hey, hey, [Music] Hey, hey, hey, hey, [Music] hey, hey, hey, Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Hey, hey, [Music] [Applause]