haha the Joe Rogan experience think there's as much of a difference between like a black belt in jujitsu and what would be considered an equivalent you know world champion immortai oh yeah this is a big step that step in the step in the ring and see how you see guys sometimes get cocky about that I had a buddy mind he was taking an MMA fight and he wasn't doing any striking he was doing very little striking and he's a really good ground fighter and I said do you know how you can toy with a guy on the ground and they really have no chance he goes yeah I go people could do that to you standing you have to understand that the fight starts standing it's not like you start like it's not EBI rules restart on the guy's back and you know you have a really good chance of submitting him if you got a great rear naked choke this is not that this is you start 20 feet away from the guy and you're standing and you know you have to close that distancing you're not a great wrestler either yeah well that's the key component right yes it's a giant factor cuz if you did if you wrestle you know well at least I had no I have a decent chance of taking him down yes a decent chance and even that's no guarantee anymore well I'd go back to Mark Schultz when he fought in the UFC you know when Mark Schultz fought in the UFC you only find one UFC fight but that's what you only get to see like a world champion Olympic gold medalist top of the food chain wrestler you're only on your feet if he wants you to be like you you need good luck throwing that punch or kick because he you have no chance he's gonna close the distance and drag you to the ground unless you have really good takedown defense and back back then when he fought Big Daddy good rich people didn't really have it unless there were wrestlers they didn't really have good takedown defense it hadn't really been established as like a part of the whole skill set of MMA yet you basically had what you came in there with your karate guy that's a jab your Muay Thai guy that's what you got you gotta hope you land that elbow before that guy clinches me and there is it there is a overall strategic advantage to grappling yeah because you can close the distance and if you're gonna punch me you have to get close enough to you have to make contact with me which mean I can grab a hold of you and get you down that's why that's why the early UFC it was like oh like you're gonna have to get close enough to either punch or kick me and when you do that I grab ahold of you and get you to the ground also the chaos factor especially in a street fight the chaos factor is like bodies are flying there's bad timing the clinches have it's not like every you know you'll see you watch the occasional street fight where a guy tees off on some drunk guy and you know it lands the perfect punch and knocks him out cold that does happen but you know what also happens Mele Wow misses and then someone clinches and then the worst thing in the world is to fight a grappler who's good at takedowns when you're on the concrete roof that is the absolute worst thing in the world you get suplex on your head on the concrete I mean one of the worst things that could ever happen you're basically getting hit in the head by the world yeah well this is why I when I talk about do um people say well what kind of self-defense you you always say jiu-jitsu for self-defense but do you know you shouldn't let a street fight go to the ground here's here's how it works out if you come to me and you want to fight me and you like square off like in a boxing stance I can run away from you right I can just run away I can just run away I'm gonna get away from you I want to fight you if you want to kick me I can run away from you like there's my primary self-defense is I'm just gonna run away from you when you grab ahold of me now everything's different I can't run away anymore now I have to actually know how to handle myself in a grappling situation so that's why I start with you Jitsu and look absolutely learn boxing learn more time learn wrestling absolutely no doubt about it but the very first thing you need to learn is cuz if you want to fight me I can run away if you square off and stink you know you put your dukes up and say come on or you push me good I'm running away that's fine I'll take that but when you grab ahold of me now I got a problem because I can't run it away run away no problem is the ego where people don't know how to fight and someone puts their dukes up and they decide to see what they can do they decide in that moment to either fake it or just like see if they can possibly hit the guy and then they get banked so many teas off on them yeah I think that's I think the the whole thing with CTE right now that's why I think the popularity of jujitsu is going to continue because it's a large part of fighting same with wrestling grappling in general I think is going to continue to get more and more popular because because of CT because you know as a parent you're not looking hey I really want my kid to be sparring a lot when they're 13 right no there's not too many parents that are saying that right now it's not a good idea so I think but you still want your kids to know how to fight right so how are we gonna do that well we're gonna see some jiu-jitsu and wrestling and let them have that base and then if they get older hey should they know how to throw punches absolutely should they get in the boxing ring sometimes and do some more time matches absolutely you should absolutely do that as a human but you know you can do that when you're 17 maybe 16 you can start getting that stuff in but the kids Jiu Jitsu I don't think is anything else better form I completely agree and I think with martial arts with striking it's good to know just to know distance just to understand where you're safe when you're not safe and understand towels understand what's happening when someone does this when someone does this and then this is coming when they do this this is coming like you should know that but some people don't know that that you should know how to protect yourself how to keep your hands up how to duck under things you should know that it should you should understand the timing we should understand distance and timing those are important things but [ __ ] swinging knuckles with some guy in the street is so goddamn dangerous because first of all you don't know what he knows and you're everyone's vulnerable everyone every person that gets punched in the face is vulnerable and if you just want to have like some sort of a cake boxing match with some man on the concrete like I don't advise that no no I advise clinch and Tripp yeah I advise get out of there yeah yeah definitely if someone wants to start some [ __ ] with you you're absolutely better off just swallowing your ego and getting the [ __ ] out of Dodge I that's the warrior kid books yeah teach those kids hey there's gonna be problems there's gonna be bullies if you can you don't need to fight them yeah and what's oh I am somebody hit me up you know cuz I'm always telling people change you to Train jiu-jitsu has somebody hit me up you know I've tried it but I don't I want to try and I tried it a couple times but I don't like to fight and I'm like hey if you don't like the fight to fight you more than anyone else should learn jujitsu because if you know jujitsu you probably your chances of having to fight will go down a lot just by the way you carry yourself just away by by the way you present yourself the chance of you having to fight go down a lot also with jiu-jitsu you're involved in real life strong the thing about like karate sparring and a lot of point like light sparring is it's not the real chaos that comes with an actual fight whereas jiu-jitsu is full blast someone's trying to get you it's so you get used to full blast you get you get accustomed to it you know what to expect if someone swings for you and you clinch with them you know what it's like to resist with a 100% non-compliant body you know someone's like really trying to get away from you really it's not like play sparring yes you you can go full-out [Applause]