hello hello hello everybody thank you for being here um I hope I'm clear-minded I got a little bit of a cold um yesterday we had 360 Mr mafara came on and it was awesome what I really loved about it and he said look there's stuff going on I'm taking care of it and then he talked about the future and he talked about the invested time we all have in it and how this is for all of us as has always done that he does all the weightlifting he does all the manual he pays all the bills and we get to ride on his cels I I want to say you know I've said this before um he was a master marketer and he would build systems then he would use that system to max out the pay plan well what missed him with did for us is he built a system that he would use and scaled it to the level that the all of us can can be experts to that's actually what happens we wind up looking and some of the re the results will be as if you're an expert that's pretty cool stuff I'm not kidding I'm blown away over it I know a lot of people are looking at other stuff okay I it breaks my heart but listen you want to do it do it I'm just saying we're going to rock and roll I'm telling you the time's coming up shortly where you're going to look back and with a big smile and say okay there were some bad times but I'll tell you what if we didn't go see these times if it's this special and we didn't go through hard times how special could it be right good things are you got to work for it and great things you got to suffer for it and that's what he did he suffered for it and he's still going and and it only made him stronger it makes us all stronger you know I watch people's emotion over the weekend upset mad not sure anxiety and then all a sudden now I'm hearing people say he he hit one of us he hit all of us Ash is our family and our CEO anyway we got a really cool guy on here today soon as I saw him I went wow he looks like I'm not going to say it and I will no no no I want him to come on and then afterwards will ask you who do you think he looks like that's good anyway real real cool guy uh laidback uh personable talks as anybody always in a good mood every time I hear him um so I'm gonna give it to Chris because Chris can do it better than anybody else go ahead Chris thanks Marty good morning I love you brother I hope you feel better saying some prayers for you and a lot of people out there I do want to say uh shoot out some prayers for uh Bangladesh they're going through some struggles right now um and we're praying for you and happy birthday if you got a birthday but this guy I'm bringing on next I call him a cool cat uh I talk to him frequently on on Facebook I watch what he does believe it or not he's got a sense of humor just like me uh and I don't really know too much of his personal life I know some of the things he shares on Facebook but he's really just a cool guy and you see him here in a minute and like Marty said tell us who you think he looks like uh there's a couple things that I said and this guy just loves it so on that own I want to bring on a gentleman his last name is not on there but his his real name is Stephen Holton God hope I said that there he is right there I'm gonna mute myself put him on the thanks guys hello family it's one of my favorite things to do in the morning is get my Marty and Chris fix um I don't know how I'm going to follow Michael Williams he was amazing uh what can I tell you about myself um I went through like my life last night and jotted it down on this little notebook here this little card just so I wouldn't forget key passages or turning points which got me here in the first place so um I will start with I'm a redneck I grew up in a redneck town I have a redneck attitude I am not politically correct so you know suck it anyway um I was born in 1968 I am a gen xer um my mom uh now gone has been gone since 1995 so I'm older than when my mom died uh she was in some bad situations which means me and my brothers were in some bad situations so we were original latch key kids we took care of each other then my mom got sick from multiple sclerosis so my brothers got taken to a foster home and I went with my grandparents and got to the town I'm actually living in now which I thought I escaped 37 years ago but that'll come later so um I was a h step kid to um an alcoholic abusive stepfather who really gave me the ability to discern whether or not people were good and whether or not um I could rely on them so I got some issues but you know it's all good we all get to a point where we have to make decisions for ourselves and I chose to go live with my grandparents in Clear Lake Wisconsin small little town about when I was here it was 9.99 I think we're at 1100 no um they owned a store which was a 4Runner to like 71s in the area because uh my grandfather drove bus for Greyhound from Minneapolis and his family was out here and uh he was working at the creary in town and he became um turned in turned on to an opportunity so this runs in our family all the way back I've looked at Bootleggers I've looked at uh criminals I've looked at all these people that refuse to stay inside the system so I'm in good company um and the opportunity was these guys that bought a bus depot and did not have a partner so my grandfather decided Well you know what I'll take my um retirement early and I will go uh work on this store so the store became really popular place for people to hang out and when my mom got into her issues I decided to go live with them and they opened their home up to me and basically I lived there till I was 18 so on top of the ethics and work and philosophies and ideologies of my grandfather I probably built most of my personality and uh kept learning that was one thing in my life I know that was always continuous learning I was always at the library I was always reading I was always finding as much information on stuff as possible and I was taught the business I was taught inventory I was taught how to I I was basically quit in charge of candy and things to bring kids into the store to spend money so I was marketing probably when I was nine I was going door too shoveling snow uh mowing lawns so my I was always given an allowance because of what I went out and made for myself and then at some point in time I upgraded my business with riding lawnmowers and I was like like you said nine 10 years old and I was making a couple hundred bucks just hustling along with one of my friends who's another partner who refused to get into on passive which he will regret I know he will he will come out of the woodwork and say have been a Founder told you but anyway um so yeah I was a kid I was bullied I hated Sports I read comic books uh science fiction nerd um eventually I graduated high school went to University of Wisconsin Stout uh majored in fraternities parties girls and uh originally was a psychology degree which I got about two years in on then I changed it to Hotel restaurant management because we used to get to go to the bars for research and then um I made a a decision that was a my first bad decision which I got a ticket for under drinking back when the the drinking age was 21 at 19 and I got stuck in my college town with no job prospects so what did my my grandfather suggest the military so I went into basic training December 31st 1987 I made some bad decisions there it took me almost four months to get out of it I'm glad I went in in reserves but there was another bullying situation there I had to work my way out of there there was no way I was going to get out so I worked through that was in the reserves I got out of basic in April and AIT and uh my MOS was combat engineer 12 Bravo which means blowing stuff up that's that was that was fun and Building Bridges and then um I got back to my apartment and had two weeks before I had to be in in indana to do my annual training so my girlfriend and I hopped a greyhound and went to LA we stopped in Las Vegas to see a friend we went to LA I trusted somebody take our bags and said he'd meet us on Venice Beach I was like oh okay cool I'll meet you in Venice Beach and when we got there the uh we we had fun in Vegas and then went to uh Los Angeles and oh man back in 1990 no 1980 1988 Los Angeles had about a block maybe two blocks of homeless now 30 years later it's like so like green out there um those are the people that make me proud to be an univan because I know that not all those people are there by choice um so let's move forward uh lost the bags that's okay left my girlfriend in Vegas went to Indiana got to do helicopter rides and stuff like that was fun then I got out and decided that college wasn't for me so I went into the private sector and worked every type of job imaginable from uh data entry to washing cars to digging ditches I've worked retail I've worked fast food I've worked everywhere never really had a career other than uh music has always been my sideline that was that's my my therapy um working with bands concert security um so okay private sector uh we had huge snowstorm in 88 and I was coming home from one of my jobs uh and I saw a commercial on MTV for this school called the Colorado Institute of Art and it was in Denver and it was all about music video business production so what do I do I get my little hands on a phone I call uh I get set up I get all my financial aid set up um we pack everything up in a little trailer and car and my grandparents take us out we rent this really cool place like a block away from the school and uh I start going to school in Colorado um it was a year and a half program we did audio production video production we did music business management copyright law um IED up with the band started managing them um went through several name changes several lineups several egos um right now we have an established kind of Rapport the guitarist and I who actually ended up marrying our old lead singer from the very first band which is called talison and then our other singer uh is a conservative DJ in cooko Indiana um and just recently they finished an album that was 30 years in the making with new vocals because we couldn't get our vocalist to come back and then just recently our base player our second base player U died of complications of uh RSV and COPD and the original Basse player is now a armorer making swords and and chain mail and stuff in I believe he's still in Indiana which is the hometown of uh Axel Rose Guns and Roses so um there's always a connection there with he used to know Axel's Grandma so he played tapes and stuff from early days um forward Denver C security uh came back home to the girlfriend after we had moved back out of Denver um got called in for Guns and Roses Skid Row show they needed extra security so I flew back lived with one of my friends who was also in security got through that went back to Wisconsin um what do we do after that uh anyway we got through all that came back I worked at the casino um back into like temp jobs and and factory jobs and oh when I got back from uh Colorado I didn't have the same girl I had a different girl who I brought with me back to my Hometown again and uh that lasted about as long as her her loyalty so she had a substance abuse problem and I eventually put her on a bus back to Colorado and then uh I run into my high school girlfriend and Sparks flew she already had three kids so we got married on uh Halloween of 96 I believe my mom died in 95 she was in a nursing home for her Ms uh we got married in uh laat where I was run uh with her boy both now deceased um that marriage Mar lasted about 10 years right after I got married no right before I got married I had been with someone and uh we never got back together tried but uh the result of that was my daughter Tommy Leah who was born in 96 so I was um stepdad to three kids plus I had one of my own so uh uh it was always a struggle keeping everything together and basically I'd been doing marketing and and being an entrepreneur on the side since my grandfather we would you know we'd stuff envelopes we would go out and um we got involved with nutrition for life and shark cartilage and we we uh were working when I was in Colorado I was working herbal life and going to conventions and listening to people like Jim Ron so my work life never interfered with my side hustle it was weird because I always was in a position where if I had to go to a convention yeah the job could wait I I I'd take either the time off or I just quit it and get another job so there's no timeline for career because I still didn't know what I wanted to do because I was managing a band but I was also working at a computer Warehouse you know it it was a it was a balance of I'm going to have fun I'm going to enjoy what I do but yet I have to fund it so okay so let's see let's go forward divorce um [Laughter] um at some point in time I came back to Wisconsin with the it was a divorce that happened in 2006 for reconcilable differences uh I got hooked up with the church I love church so this friend that was working with at a woodworking place we were were doing kiosks for Verizon back when cell phones were like really really coming into their own where you would go to a mall and there would be these phones all lined up on this table well it was a kiosk we made those we made them for all over the world we worked on Rainforest Cafe Target all kinds of different things and um that led to meeting Randy Stone who had his own church and it started out in a home it was a born again evangelical bible-based church and it started in somebody's home then it moved downtown to a smaller town um than mine and which I ended up living there for a number of years he went from a bowling alley over to this old church well this church was quite um new it was called the the new wine Community Church because once you put new wine in an old wine skin the old wine skin can't contain the new wine so it was all about transformation it was all about um taking in people that that were not given a good hand U there was a Huber system we started a kind of a halfway house uh and I was part of the worship team I was part of a worship team in a church back when I was married too but at the same time the church was not happy because um I was also singing in the bars doing karaoke um fronting a band whatever so it became a balance of well your voice is really good but your lifestyle doesn't reflect what we want and at one point in time in uh I was 99 I quit smoking I quit drinking which you know that's that's like a staple of being in a bar is you have a cigarette in your hand and drink in the other and then you know the laws came in where you had to smoke outside and so I quit all that stuff pretty much Cold Turkey um when I was working in Factory I used uh gummy bears to quit smoking and then food replaced the uh motion of hand to mouth so I uh gained a bit of weight [Music] um uh then going forward uh got the divorce joined the church worked with the church church worked on the church worship team and I also came up with the uh um idea of recording the sermons and piping them into like jails and Randy was such a a dynamic Jerry sevel Jesse Duplantis um Joyce Meyer type person when when it came to bringing the message out and they were extremely Prosperity driven messages and I ended up meeting most of the higher players in different um Arenas with the uh religion um Born Again EV iCal uh leaders in that field that had TV shows and um Randy had gone under the tutelage of Jerry sevel and they wrote books and they put out tapes and at one point in time um we were recording the sermons after of a miracle had happened where this lady I was talking to Randy at the at the beginning of church and um we have we had steps and this this woman came in and she was um had a cane and she was walking and and was having a hard time of it and they said well you know what maybe we should make this thing we wheelchair accessible Randy he goes no I think what what's God God's going to do is we're just going to cure people and we kind of laughed and then he got up to preach and he he used to download direct from The Source you could just tell when he was on fire with the message that was intense and ready for everybody that that day we were talking about um the uh Peter and John on their way to church seeing the beggar who was laying on the ground and and saying and and them them saying uh he wanted money they didn't have any money but they said in the name of God get up and walk well the Randy Got This brilliant idea to act it out with me and an um biker guy named animal and we play we played the parts of Peter and John and we came across the victim which Randy just told that lady that we just saw that was having a hard time using Kan and she was you know almost so crippled she couldn't walk but she had to go to church he made her lay down and John and animal animal and I picked her up and he everybody was saying the the the screen words of um in the name of God get up and walk and we walked it down the aisle slowly and then we walked her back and I felt electricity shoot through me like you wouldn't believe and she goes I think I could do it on my own let me do it on my own and she literally walked and a week later she was riding a motorcycle um crazier things I've seen and that one really I had to wrap my head around because uh she Kelly was was a very strong woman and to this day she's still walking so fast forward I get into Market America brilant brilliant company brilliant um Visionary uh I compare him and a number of other people to Ash I think Ash is one of the reasons I gravitate towards Ash was because of all of the other people over the years I've gotten to see like Jim Ron and Zig Ziggler and I read everything from AG Menino to Napoleon Hill to everything to get my mindset right I never seemed to get perfectly with it but I would my life got better my life got better when I started um reading and listening to people like uh I have to give a shout out to Kevin Trudeau I know everybody thinks he's a scam artist but um when I found the Global Information Network or it found me the text of your wishes your command was so powerful and so mind changing and so resonating with me that it changed almost everything the way I did things the way I reacted to things my uh attitudes my philosophies and of course that just drags you farther down the rabbit hole and um I got into a position where I met my second wife who was actually the daughter of my partner in Market America and we lasted about just under 10 years but what had happened was uh her dad was ailing her mom had just died we'd gone through all that um oh I forgot about the time when my grandparents died it was like we were hit with seven deaths at once so when about I think it was 2001 or 2002 there was like seven or eight deaths like in the span of like 6 months that we were just going to funerals and that changed everything too and then um we ended up helping out her daughter and they needed someone to um we were putting her dad in a nursing home and we needed to vacate because he had sold the house off and some reverse mortgage things so um we had I I had been working for a company that uh at some point in time I had gotten exposed to some kind of chemical so I ended up um fighting for disability because uh I was having issues where uh I would accidentally cut myself and the blood wouldn't stop pouring out and we didn't we never knew what it was until we took a trip to Florida for um to Tampa to a Talk Fusion convention see another another wonderful opportunity um and we found out that I actually had a condition called lymphadema that we're not sure if it was because of chemicals or something that got into my system but anyway um when I got back to Wisconsin from Florida we started the The Journey to find out what was wrong and then it became uh my wife at the time was cleaning houses and I still had child support and stuff to pay for so I basically ended up not working while I was fighting for child for fighting for disability and she did um most of the work and we doubled down on payments and when my kid was like 17 and a half they they said all my child support was paid off and then um my ability finally kicked in and we ended up visiting uh North Carolina and I fell in love with a place called uh Mount Ary which is the prototype for uh Mayberry in The Andy Griffith Show and uh I decided that within a year we would be moving to North Carolina and I wanted to live in moner because I wanted to buy a drivein and and uh all these opportunities you know they they're trying to get me to dream bigger and uh create wealth and we know that most of them are empty promises but I did have a partner in a business that we still do today which is an electronics recycling business and we are in process of finishing off that case and then um we will be able to uh contribute a lot more to causes like you know the one thing that impressed me about Chris is being the face of old bless and the angels in the beginning and everybody gravitating towards helping each other rather than um Feathering their nest you know like like ash always says take care of what you need to take care of first so I see I consider this as a a grand social experiment that not only is Ash flipping everything upside down and giving the power back to to the people he's actually allowing people to live their dreams and enjoy their life rather than slaving away for somebody and building their pyramid um so let's see uh after well we went to North Carolina shortly after Prince died so um over the years I had gone to Paisley a few times and and enjoyed you know late night Raves and stuff and then the week Prince died a couple or maybe when Robin Williams died and when Prince died there was something that snapped in me that said all right we're going to North Carolina so fulfilling the prophecy that I had spoken that within a year we'd be living in North Carolina so packed everything up what to North Carolina um stayed there for about I did anyway I stayed there for a couple months and um the marriage wasn't working because she was putting family first I had nothing to do so I started looking around for more shiny objects to keep myself occupied and I think at that point in time I did run across on passive the very first time time and I signed up and I forgot about it so this comes to play later when um I get uh an information website or or something maybe it was it was the two um presentations that Ash did that hooked me um but anyway I'm not there yet uh so I left North Carolina uh went to live with a friend um didn't know what was going on with the relationship I just said put a pin in it and basically she filed for divorce um I didn't have anything to do all I did was uh sign papers that was done but then she forgot and for a year we thought we were not married but she forgot to file the papers so and then yeah I met people and then I got into some other housing and then that was kind of too stagnant because once again if if you're not doing anything you're going stir crazy which is a lot like me right now uh waiting trying to talk to people um so I left there and my stepdaughter was out in South Dakota so she needed somebody to come take her trailer over and um she wanted to move to a different trailer so I said okay I'll I'll go out to South Dakota so packed everything up went to see there's a there's a pattern here isn't there a lot of storage units a lot of travel a lot of vacation vacation permanent you know so uh what I what I did was I got out there and I got into the croak scene heavily I was singing about four to five nights a week and then uh in that time frame pandemic came along and knocked down my door and uh it became imperative to stay out of everybody's way I didn't believe in it I understood that people people were having issues and I'm not going to go there because that's a totally different philosophy but but uh someone named Natalie from Canada contacted me with something about onpassive and this is 209 20 somewhere in there but so I said all right I'll I'll I'll pull up my $97 this is interesting I heard Ash's two I remember if there were audios or videos but um she invited me on to a fireside chat and I heard Ash for the first time I heard Marty for the first time I don't remember if Chris came along Chris came along later I think but there was there were these things called Fireside Chats where we became the furniture and and Ash was so open and so transparent and we saw through his eyes that he was our champion he was our Warrior he was going to do it or die and in that aspect that's what made me uh do the comparison between J.R ringer and Kevin Trudeau and other people that I had uh been I had I had the privilege of of being in front of Jesse DL as Jerry SEL all of it just came together in this package which got me to un passive and then when Marty told his story and all these other people were just laying be the fact that yeah we weren't going to look at anything else we were done we weren't going to do anymore we were tired of putting money into something and auto ships and everything else that there was just this one thing that that sparked that billion of a vault that has to go off in your head where you understand exactly where someone's coming from and you realize that this is what you were looking for so I went to pay Natalie the $97 on her link unfortunately the first person who showed it to me was not Natalie it was the year before so I actually became part of his team and then I was like oh okay because I remember the original and passive and I remember how how it was set up but then you know you you get so much information about so much stuff that it gets lost in the cracks and falls along the Wayside and you never hear about prog progression or anything or you get so many so much spam and emails that you just don't follow along with it so when when it came back and she goes well you're not in my team I'm like oh okay well all right I'll get an account with you too because we can have more than one account right so I got more money together and and open an account with Natalie so I have two accounts as a Founder so the first guy I believe his name is Maurice I've never I've communicated with him but only through email so with all the migration and O connect and all the I had basically two things to manage and then when I got to UNP passive and I realized it what it was and how big it could be then I started grabbing people which when when I go into a business opportunity there's a handful of people that are my front line and those people were like well what what is it I said don't worry about it I'm paying your way in just follow exactly what I tell you to do and wait and see plug in get into the community see what's going on but one of the hardest parts of anything is trying to get people to even sit down and and watch more than five minutes or something so I don't know who's watching this I know a lot of people know about it and I don't know how they're gonna feel about it but you know shout out to my friend Mark and Felicia and Tiffany and my brother Jody and uh Nick and Courtney and Eugene and Gino and all these other people that um have fa have made my life so full that one of my favorite movies is It's a Wonderful Life and the philosophy behind you don't know how many people you touch you don't know what your presence in their life really is unless you're taken out of the picture and then who knows what could have happened so I've had friends commit suicide I've friends die I've had relatives die but the the thing about life is the longer you live the more you say goodbye to people it's just the way it is because humans Decay humans aren't perfect they they get sick they they get damaged they they're not bulletproof even though they think they are when they're younger um so I left South Dakota ended up coming back and living with one of my friends and then uh we got into a situation where the place we're living in was being bought up so we got kicked out we ended up living at somebody's house for about six months then I ended up living with my brother then I ended up uh I was in a an accident last year after one of my friends gigs that uh there was a tractor rolling along a highway at 2 a.m. and had no lights or reflectors or anything and got too close with my Jeep and the airbags went off so my jeep was basically impounded and and I ended up uh going back to my brothers and everybody's waiting for un passive you know September was huge and then all of a sudden it was it was not there anymore you know and and we follow religiously we we want to know the updates we want to know how soon this that I mean there are a lot of hurting people out there and I I can say that because of my disability I don't have really a lot of expenses but uh eventually what happened is uh after the accident I went back to my brother's my stepdaughter my youngest stepdaughter calls me and asks about that stepfather from the very first part when I started cuz she was he was a tenant of hers and I didn't realize that she was into real estate cuz again she'd been into everything from being a um home care nurse to retail all of that anyway she said well I have a place for you and I'm like really so I find out that she's got the job my grandfather had when I was growing up with him after the store he had contracted out a job as a manager for this series of apartment buildings in um probably pop County area where we collected rent we did maintenance we did all that I mowed the Lawns um and my great grandma lived here and she was down and when I was younger where I had a weekend free I'd be hanging and Lawrence wel and and stuff and uh then uh there's a lady in the apartment I that uh uh oh did we lose lose Stephen oh wow um let me tell you something after listening to Stephen I have a pretty boring life uh I don't know if we're gonna get him back on here uh there's Marty uh what listen I told you this guy's got a sense of humor like me he is telling us everything about everything which is okay uh but what a life this guy's LED I'm not sure if he's married or divorced or married and divorce I wasn't sure about that but what a cool dude uh like I said I after listening for the first 15 minutes I thought man I live a pretty boring life I love the guy he's funny uh very intelligent he's done just about everything you can possibly do uh and he just keeps going and I wanted to hear his end thing about him passive but like I said he he vanished from us but that's okay Stephen his name is Stephen Holton uh I like the fact that when he went to church I love that story uh every time I thought where's he going with this he he shocked me a little bit more I love it uh this is why we love doing it for people like this guy uh remember I said you know never judge a book by his cover uh your first time you see Stephen like wow but actually he's just got a big old he's just a big old teddy bear and I love him for it I wish he'd come back on here but Marty I know you don't feel that good Marty back to you brother my man's got a memory I can tell you he gave he gave us us his life story every freaking minute uh anyway love everybody what it say Thursday yeah nothing anything special going on is red coming on red is coming on in the chair at 11 thank you for reminding me because Comfort confor if I said oh wow coming out be in the chair here in a couple minutes uh which is in eight minutes actually but Stephen Holden I'm sorry you uh your internet died uh we appreciate you we love you you're the reason why we do this uh and and like I said you said you had to follow Michael Williams I'm betting Michael Williams wish he didn't have to follow you because it was really good dude you cracked me up I just love your uh just your stories I mean it was I was interested in the whole time thinking wow what have I done in my life I thought this guy's touched him on everything so Stephen Olden you are gonna relate to a lot of people I love your brother and now he's calling me hold on we're getting off anyway yeah what happened the power my phone lost he lost power so well listen real quick are we still on Marty say Stephen he's on the phone say goodbye to everybody bye guys big shout out to Todd Simona Brett Larry Mike Jr B called boxy box rock on dude hey Steve you're gonna have to watch the end of the YouTube man thank you very much for coming on okay thanks I love you bro have a great one bye all right Chris I'll see you on the other side