yo what's good YouTube it's boury it is the Most Wonderful Time of the Year time for an updated all encompassing ultimate gaming mouse tier list there is there's a stupid amount of mice this is well over 150 mice which I think is like at least 40 more than the previous tier list so this is going to be a long one but I did introduce the outdated tier which should just help me like get through a few of the mice from like 3 or four years ago that are just not being produced anymore but as always in honor of the 150 mice if I could get 150 likes and 150 new subscribers from this video that would be um greatly appreciated but yeah this should take a while starting off as always with the buga mice and yeah boam Mouse one this is outdated trash at this point I it was never good but now you can't even buy it the Booga Mouse 2 on the other hand that's just it's going to sit calmly in dog [ __ ] here like there's nothing good comes out of owning a Booga Mouse it's just low tier like literal e-w so unfortunate but yeah now moving on to the phage Ultra custom symmetrical I mean this is a mouse that's kind of getting close to outdated but I would just put it in D tier like it's nothing I would recommend but if you can get one for like dirt cheap let's say like under $40 you're going to have an all right like 2020 esque grpr super light S2 clone type Mouse it's nothing great though Wireless performance latency isn't going to be up to par um but yeah the ponage Stormbreaker this one I'm it can fall into Like A or B tier as far as I know it's still the only like metal ergonomic Mouse if you're looking for just a lightweight magnesium EC clone in like a mini shape I guess I mean it's your only option it's not going to really be that bad but it's just not going to blow you away it does have an adjustable sensor position which is a unique feature but yeah it's just a niche product it is pretty expensive like at least $170 so I just don't widely recommend it but yeah I guess AG here um it's where it can sit Death Adder V3 Pro um this is absolutely a based Mouse I I mean going back to the last tier list this was probably my number one recommendation now I started having some creaking issues fell out of love with it but recently I picked up the smooth touch coding Edition um I I don't know Razer just keeps finding ways to get me to spend $170 on new death adders and I don't really complain I feel like this is one of the best like Ergo shapes for large hands just widely available on the market even me like I was a staunch Ergo hater and then I put my hand on this and it just really makes sense so still one of my um top like recommendations for performance but the price it's pretty stupid and yeah I really don't feel like you can go wrong if you want a premium Wireless Ergo experience but also I'm not saying like this is the end all Beall only Mouse you can go for um and yeah I guess that's really where it sits I'll get to the wired Edition later on in the video but of course the rocket cone XP I'm going to go right into dog [ __ ] tier when rocket released this they like focused on RGB like macro buttons the Minecraft audience it was like rocket just fell out of favor when it comes to gaming MCE and even their latest release the um pure air it's somewhere down here should be called the pure ass because that thing is terrible oh my God after that little joke I got to I got to find it where did I [ __ ] put it okay it was hiding from me but I found it and yeah I'm honestly going to put this in dog [ __ ] I don't even know if it was widely released to the Western audience I did get it sent out to me from China um but it just had this issue where every time I would click the mouse the entire shell would Creek it was just no good it just wasn't up to par so maybe it wasn't like officially released but I would not recommend going out of your way to get that at least at the current time now the Razer Cobra Pro um the entire Cobra lineup I feel like it just goes into B tier in 2023 Razer really like I don't know they just forgot what made them great the in like the two years prior I don't know how they have like short-term memory loss but the Cobra Pro it really just wasn't like the answer to the wireless Viper mini in plastic that people were looking for um it was just like in the 70 G range it just felt like the Viper ultimate release but a few years later so yeah really it's just not like an Esports or like Pro play focused Mouse so I I wouldn't recommend it to anybody especially for the price it's arguably sieg here but I feel like by the time I'm done with this list it'll be low B tier um and yeah the Viper V3 hypers speed um similar to the cobr pro a 2023 razor release that I just didn't feel like totally hit the mark But there are like pretty confirmed leaks of the Viper V3 Pro um which is going to be this shape getting released soon there are already Pro players using it and I could imagine that will wind up in either a or base here but yeah um the Viper V3 hypers speed if you are on a budget you can get it for a good price and you're fine using like a mid 70s to 80 g Mouse then I mean you're going to be fine with it presuming you want the larger Viper V3 shape and a very high sensor position so it's really just like I don't know it's a mouse that I don't think I touched many times after I finished my review of IT some people with large hands I guess swear by it but I'm just going to wait for a new version like that didn't really move me too much the steel series a rock 5 I mean that's D tier close to dog [ __ ] I I just went really recommend it to anybody if I recall correctly it had a third side button and it was like kind of a sniper button that was cool I just didn't like totally hate the mouse but I mean I would look like an idiot putting it in any higher of a tier um now we have the endgame gear op1 18K that is the best thing that has ever happened to endgame gear they are so happy that everybody in the world is Shilling this mouse and seemingly forgot about the xmw but yeah the op1 it is everything you could ask for from a mouse truly the only caveat is that it has a wire it comes in at 50 g endgame gear is known for having incredibly solid build quality the switches are hot swap combined with the fact that they have the like best click latency Solution on the market I don't know it's just like incredible performance my only gripe is that the shape is a little bit narrow which I don't see many other people saying cuz I guess everybody else just has like these like feminine baby hands but I I don't know I find the shape to be a bit narrow but just for a Wired Mouse $75 you can't get a better performing Mouse so it's definitely one of my top recommendations um incredible for fingertip for me personally but like I said just a little bit thin um to love for claw grip now we have like just tons of [ __ ] Pulsar mice the X2 mini and the X2 like the older versions I don't know where to put these okay I settled on beach here because I feel like outdated is just stupid and not where they belong so I mean I don't know compared to the modern version with the X2 V2 Mini at least I definitely think is a based Mouse um that really lacks the 4K compatibility doesn't have as good of switches in my opinion unless you got like the boardy Edition on the previous mice um it's a little bit heavier just overall not as dialed in so I would recommend the V2 versions but if you can get a really good deal on the originals like nothing nothing is inherently bad about them and then the x2h and the midi goes in a tier simply due to the shape differences I just prefer the flatness on the sides of the X2 V2 um especially the mini I think is one of maybe the most underrated shapes on the market um but the x2h I just do find it to be they like okay you want a [ __ ] hump take a hump now it's better for claw grip it's just not very like um of a passionately designed shape if that makes sense even though I do know a lot of people like bad seed just people with like larger hands are a fan of the um standard X2 HP just goes into a tier because I don't recommend it quite as much and yeah next up is the x2h Esports Edition I just was not a huge fan of this mouse it's only available in the medium size they are doing lots of different colorways now but it does add around 10 G of weight to the mouse you get an OLED screen at the bottom it is like driverless it's basically pulsar's version of a zoi mouse but I don't know I just I wouldn't recommend it over the standard X2 it could even be in be tier but I don't know it's not like it's not a bad product it's just for the $130 price it's not something I widely recommend um the xite V3 es I'm a bit more of a fan of like I understand that I understand if you're looking for a bit heavier of an ergo Mouse then this is an option compared to the standard xlite V3 um but again it is only available in the medium size and I wouldn't recommend it over a death ater V3 Pro and at least on the first batch copy I tried I did find the clicks to be a bit heavy and dull but it still is without a doubt a great Ergo Mouse it's just not something I'm like foaming at the mouth over um basilisk V3 Pro I have always hated on the basilisks like they're not I I don't know I even prefer the g502 over like it's not a terrible Mouse I guess it could go C tier I'm also making an executive decision to put the Cobra Pro in seed here just to reflect how I really feel about but yeah the Bassel X V3 Pro it's not what I'm going to be recommending anybody to buy especially since it is like a pretty sign significant purchase um but I you know there are like some single player Gamers just casual people who want that scroll wheel feature whatever whatever else it has to offer I can't speak this [ __ ] Mouse is so bad it takes away my ability to speak um so yeah that's really all for the bass Lisk now the burst Pro I'm going to throw this in the outdated tier it's a rocket Mouse from like 2021 sometimes I see it on Amazon for like $30 which I still feel like is a bit high of an ask but I don't know I always just found it to be a very bulky shape with some of the worst clicks ever and unremarkable cable and yeah that's really all I have to say I think there are some other variants in this list I'll just throw and outdated whenever I get to them now the vgn dragonfly F1 Pro not the vxz R1 which was my most recent review a mouse that I just absolutely loved I'm going to throw this in the a tier I mean it's a really good Budget Buy it's just a kind of awkward shape it's not a direct clone of anything so if you want like a full review um I did review this last year but yeah it's just like a low 50 g Ambi Mouse 3395 4K compatible just one of those super cheap but solid mice out of China not a super cheap but bad Mouse which is what most of them are um so the F1 that's definitely one that I can recommend and one thing that you guys might have noticed is that a few mice with the seal of approval are W wound up in a tier not based and that is on purpose not everything with the seal of approval is going to be at the tippity top of this list now the the extra mz1 Wireless kind of outdated but I'll still throw it into B tier out of my love for Rocket Jump Ninja really extra they need to do another mouse with him it's still an incredibly unique shape I'm not going to lie I don't use mine Much Anymore um if it was 3395 4K compatible a bit lighter no RGB like really Rocket Jump Ninja's Vision then that would be one of the most based mice on the market but yeah I'll still throw it into a be here but not really recommending it if you can get it on a massive sale God bless now the game Visions orbit this is the definition of a mouse that made the outdated tier necessary like game bitions they [ __ ] did one little Kickstarter run they released this g502 like egg shaped clone it was really awful and then they just never made him Mouse again so God bless game bitions but yeah not really recommending the orbit now the Glorious model I I'm going to throw this into dog [ __ ] I guess um I don't know if it landed and outdated it would have been there um yeah that's the wired model ey I think they have the model I to the wireless Edition but I guess I never ordered it um cuz I've never made a review of it and I don't have it so yeah the model ey I mean if you do need three side buttons on a mouse I guess it can go into D tier it belongs in D tier but I'm not really like don't buy it yeah the mouse actually does have four side buttons just general glorious quality from a few years ago I would not recommend picking up the OG wired version at any price but I do need to be a better Mouse addict and pick up the model I2 um the Viper V2 Pro I don't know where this goes like at the absolute top of a tier at the absolute bottom of Bas I guess Bas yeah this might be a hot take but the Viper V2 Pro was a pretty revolutionary Mouse because it just changed the game in terms of tech on wireless mice it was the first Mouse to use the um 3950 sensor obviously it became 4K compatible down the line um but yeah it's just like a good flat shape it's the Viper ultimate but without all of the like stupid [ __ ] um I'm just really happy that Razer released out of point but now it's like it's not heavy but almost 60 G for a flat mouse like this when the large ulx exists at 40 G so I mean is it the end of the world no I still made the mouse for some time but I don't use it as much anymore if you can get one for like 130 with a dongle I think that's a good price but with the Viper V3 Pro coming out soon maybe it'll actually be on some bigger sales um now the deluxe m800 Pro I it's kind of outdated I think I have the m800 ultra on this list which is the only m800 that belongs anywhere B tier or above I mean the older ones they did they tried their best but I mean they were just kind of like the old generation of Chinese mice now the Titan GE air Wireless another one going to go into outdated tier this was a Cooler Master mm720 clone out of um Korea I think that's where xenix is based but yeah it was just nothing spectacular in the US you can only get those mice for like a $100 plus on eBay and just don't [ __ ] get one at this point unless you need an mm720 clone in which case you probably already have it now the Asus tough air I honestly like this little patch of outdated mice just breezing through them um this this one I got recommended to review like when the final mouse was the ultral light 2 like the big mouse at the time I don't know it was like a 47 G Mouse from Asus it was just really bad though in terms of quality the clicks like I remember it was like wobbly the balancing was [ __ ] up it's crazy that I can recall that I used this mouse for like three days but yeah it was just no good um and now the G wolves hsk plus um I think they still do sell this one and this is a better shape than the hsk pro but it does have like a 3370 and it's just like I don't know it's not a g-wolves fingertip Mouse I would recommend I I guess it's not outdated right because it's still for sale and it's not quite dog [ __ ] but I just don't think it really gets anything right enough to be like even above Siege here so yeah I don't know goes into C tier I know there's going to be one or two people in the comments who are like the hsk plus is the best shape ever and like they're truly going to believe that and I don't know it's just like sometimes fingertip mice um Can rot your brains that's another unique feature of them now that Kyron M4 I'm actually going to throw this one in a tier this was like just for a fingertip Mouse and for a Kyron Mouse this could not have shocked me anymore keyron like they're a keyboard company they've gotten mice wrong so many times in the past I vowed to never review them again but they actually like the Kyron M4 mini it's [ __ ] crazy fingertip mask I thought it was going to feel like too heavy and dense considering it's 37 G for like a really tiny Mouse um and it does have curved sides as well but it just worked and it's a super it's like piss cheap I think it's like $70 for a 4K compatible the 4K is no good but still just like a solid Wireless fingertip Mouse and it's not at the Absurd price points of like gwolf zunic whoever else is making them I don't think anybody else but yeah this is like actually my entrylevel fingertip Mouse recommendation um now the fantech ARA where does this one go is this like super high B tier low a tier I think they've like still continually been putting out updates for this mouse it was always like a really good price and if you do want something egg shaped I think it's one of the top options on the market along with the um zalin Z1 Pro um but yeah it's nothing that really blows me away and and yeah in my opinion the r is solid not spectacular the only reason I consider moving it down to be tier is just for like some population control now next up is the bearded Bob GPX and I don't know where this one goes bearded Bob is still a base guy doing his thing I'm sure if he modded a GPX 2 for me it would be at the absolute top of the list but I mean I don't know the gpx1 I personally lost that mouse or I gave it away so I don't know I guess it is technically outdated but shout out to bearded Bob one of my favorite blos from the UK the DOR finger Veno s um this is going to go into the outdated tier I've never even made a review on this mouse I just like had it in my possession a few years ago and now it's still going to be on the tier list forever but yeah I don't think dor finger even makes mous anymore they just focus on mouse pads um The Fanatic bolt I was never a big fan of this mouse it was like really hyped and then it releases and it was just like a dud they never made any like significant updates like a V2 version they just kind of took lambo's Mouse and then slapped their own brand on it with the fanatic Thorn that just it's just weird to me um but I don't know the bolt it's unspectacular I guess would be a way to put it um now the gloro wireless mice or is this I don't know the model O2 I don't [ __ ] know just don't get it um especially any glorious mouse that still has like the the bearded man on it that just is a sign that it's outdated the model U like Vu whatever it's called maybe that's an all right Mouse but the original glorious model o Wireless you like you are chopped liver if that is still what you're using um the vxi XE I presume this is the wired version I wouldn't really recommend that is it right to put it in the outdated tier I don't know I'm not the judge but I I would put it there um because the XD Wireless 4K compatible it's just going to be so so much better so why would you get the like standard XE now the g-wolves Hott s Wireless yet another outdated Mouse there's just the g-wolves hot S Plus 4K um which is the go-to at this point so what do you guys think about the outdated tier are you a fan my only fear is that it kind of takes away from the dog [ __ ] tier but it might not be doing that next up is going to be the ninjo Sora V2 I'm sorry I don't have the 4K and the V2 separate my creative department is going to hear about that don't you worry um but yeah the Sora V2 I'm not going to lie I haven't reviewed this one yet it's going to be my first review after the tier list goes live but I'm just not like a massive fan it's still at the top of a tier like it's an incredible Mouse but this mouse is being treated like it's God's gift but it is it's 40 G it's $100 that is very impressive it feels structurally sound the clicks I do feel are a weak point like they just this is even like my personal copy and in the time I've used the mouse like the quality it's like cheapened it's just gotten a bit worse so I don't know if it's just like a overall super premium product but it is $100 so I guess you're expecting a few shortcomings compared to like $150 Mouse I guess but yeah the clicks along with with the coating and just the shape for fingertip I'm not I'm not going to lie it's just not going to be like the number one Mouse in my rotation but if you do want a smaller shape extremely lightweight for claw grip and you're okay with it not being the most pristine quality all around then it's definitely a buy yeah stay tuned for my full review like dropping very soon after this tier list depending on when you watch it um if you want to see a full review um next up I don't know can you guys see my dog sitting on my desk no I don't think you can um next up is going to be the ninjutso katana super light and this one is going to go into the outdated tier this was a [ __ ] very weird Mouse from the old Ninjutsu a lot of you new Jens only know about the Sora but ninjutso started out like cloning like old Microsoft shapes so so yeah the katana was just one of the most awkward shapes it like forced you into a palm grip the button design just felt like ancient it just felt wrong whenever I used it and it didn't seem like it was a design that they really stuck to so um ninjutso kind of just moved on from it it's an outdated Mouse it is what it is the extra M4 does this belong in the same tier I think they're like redoing this um now that they've been bought out by Cherry they're going to come out with a modernized version at some point in 20124 so I guess it belongs in outdated but honestly I was never a fan of the shape I would have put it in D tier or dog [ __ ] personally what am I doing I'm just like moving these [ __ ] pixels around um Cooler Master mm 731 uh that's going to go into D tier it's no good surprisingly um when I was in Japan a lot of people were using this mouse so maybe this is like an ergo that just really well in the hands of like Japanese people um but I don't know when I used it I found it to be awkward it had some massive wireless issues at the time the clicks felt cheap um but they did fix the wireless issues and I just never gave the mouse like a solid second chance so I don't know it's not outdated cuz I don't think cooler Masters released like a newer Wireless Ergo but it's just no good in my opinion game sense MVP Wireless outdated um game sense not too much to say this was just one of their first mice what was it a wmo clone next up is going to to be the Shand g303 it's like not outdated but nobody uses this it's like B tier arguably maybe even high sea tier I don't know that feels wrong though but it says a lot that shroud who like designed this mouse there was like a whole [ __ ] cinematic video about the process like he doesn't even use it like it's just it's meh at best original g303 lovers don't like it because it's not the same identical shape some people really love it and all the more power to you I just don't really recommend it maybe if it's like sub $100 go for it but I doubt it is um the ponage ultra custom symmetrical 2 this is like either just a low tier mouse or outdated it's like a Viper mini clone um which at the time was kind of revolutionary because there was nothing like it but now obviously there's a lot of mice in that genre including from Deluxe razor directly I where I just don't recommend buying this mouse it was in like the 70 G range if I recall correctly um and it's just quite old so I don't know I don't really recommend it but yeah that is what it is um the fante xd5 I just remember this was like the smallest Ergo shape super [ __ ] awkward don't recommend it maybe they're still like pushing it but I actually you know this goes in dog [ __ ] just because like something has to I can't just keep putting everything I don't like and outdated but what I can put in outdated is the original Pulsar X like Wireless what are they on like V8 by now it's kind of insane um this one has all the holes on the palm area and the sides um it's kind of crazy to think that like now they just have a full solid shell version that's lighter than that and a better sensor so just avoid the original xite Wireless and if you have that Mouse you're still using it probably time to get a new Ergo next up the steel series ack 3 wireless [ __ ] that thing it is it's just trash people always used to be like get the new version I swear it's good this mouse has never been close to good the only time it should be in a sentence with good is if there is the word not sandwiched between it um I [ __ ] that Mouse just I hate it um so yeah steel series my trash um air 58 this is just outdated even though like there was a point in time where this was going for so much money on like the secondhand Market because it was just like you know it's the lightest Mouse there is you got to get it it's the final Mouse but that was a long time ago I mean what was it like in 2018 when they did the popup event with Ninja like this mouse is [ __ ] 6 years old there are like probably people watching this video who are younger than the air58 let me know in the comments of that's you yeah I mean it was Notorious for some scroll wheel issues it was advertised at 58 as that was like the weight of the mouse but it was obviously a few grams heavier um and it's just like it's not anything special in this day and age um but if you do want something similar to that experience just go for like the ulx large what is it called the tiger um there you go and now a few more variants of the burst from rocket which I said I would just put in outdated tier so there that is um the Cox cm600 you might think this goes in outdated but no similar to the um xd5 some mice are just so trash that they got to go into dog [ __ ] tier this was like a clone of the zoi like moo moo whatever you want to call it like the super old mouse like that kind of originated the egg shapes but it's like a different type of egg shape compared to let's say a g305 or like a fantech Arya so it was just like a really micro Mouse and yeah I just remember this mouse was like 40 G which was kind of like groundbreaking but the cable was terrible the clicks were terrible I didn't like the shape the coating was cheap it was just all bad um so yeah coxy m600 there's a little history lesson it is no good um now the Prime pm1 I don't know where this one goes I guess it goes like towards the bottom middle of age here this is a g703 like kind of mini inspired iteration from spre which is supposedly the same company as ninjutso um and this was marketed as like a solution to the fact that there's no Wireless g73s but it is pretty significantly smaller and there really I don't have many issues with the mouse it is a 45 G solid shell well balanced Ergo so if you are looking for a lightweight ergo go like I said g703 inspired more than anything I mean it's a choice but it is $120 currently limited to 1K polling like the Sora V2 so I'm not saying like go get it it's like the only Ergo Mouse worth buying but it's a unique one and yeah there it is the dharmo shark N1 is this even a Dharma shark Mouse I don't know but that is like super outdated super garbage that those are all the words I'm going to muster up for it now we have the mchose A5 I believe the um mchose A5 magnes is somewhere else on this list but um neither of the variants are really good but I would say the plastic one if you are looking for like a mini GPX type Mouse um you could go for that I'd say it belongs at like kind of the bottom of beach here because it is just like one of those random Chinese manufacturers but if you're looking for just a slightly smaller significantly cheaper like GPX mini alternative um then I guess the M show A5 could be the mouse for you it is 4K compatible um and yeah I don't know not too much to say about it um cuz it's not really really unique design it just is what it is now the Felina s450 this is similar in that it is a budget Chinese Mouse yeah this one is pretty near identical to the g-wolves Hott S Plus in terms of shape the weight on it good the clicks feel all right sensor implementation feels all right it's just like it's a solid Mouse if you're on an extreme budget and just want something Wireless um now the Dharma shark N3 I don't I don't know I just don't even know what to say like these Dharma shark n series mice are genuinely like they were from my mind at some point all I know is that it's not worth your money and it is currently in the outdated tier could just throw it in the dog [ __ ] tier though I don't know if I have the Dharma shark M3 on this list once again the creative department will hear about that don't you worry um the Death Adder V2 mini absolute dog [ __ ] I mean this was one of the original rants I made not original but it was in like my first 6 months of reviewing mice I'm like wow how is even possible for a mouse to just be this like flawed overall and I got a lot of hate for it but I think I think I've been right over the course of time like the death ater V2 mini it was [ __ ] up um just the general death ater V2 I would put it in the outdated tier like it's just not worth considering anymore I'm sure you can buy it for like $20 $30 I don't know but just anything like death at or Elite death ater V2 just get a death at or V3 wired at the bare minimum I would say if you're looking to get an ergo from Razer um yeah the mini wow just so bad it was scaled down the [ __ ] cable is super thick the side RS didn't make sense it was just all wrong but they should make the um Death Adder V3 mini I feel like they could scale that down that shape a little bit better um now the like wired zoi EC zoi FK I mean I'll just get to the um to the like the actual variants later wait no I think those are the actual variants because they haven't made those and on wireless yet so I don't know uh the EC they actually have made in Wireless but the zoi FK I just don't recommend it really like I don't know wait for the wireless version the FK 2C like why would you get that Mouse when you can just get like a Viper V2 Pro something from final Mouse I understand that's not like zo's target audience but yeah just like a standard FK I wouldn't really recommend it but do I not have any other FKS on this list suspicious next up is going to be both the GPX and the GPX 2 um obviously super light I've been recommending that Mouse for many years now um it's just extremely based but I am going to put the gpx2 and the outdated here just because some people like skip to the end of the video and it's just going to generate some rage but really I would say belongs in like the a tier is I mean if the GPX 2 is in base you can find it for like $120 in the US which still isn't like outstandingly cheap so I I don't know is it significantly worse than the gpx2 no but they just launched 4k on the gpx2 you get Optical switches Some people prefer the OG version with lighter clicks just get whatever you feel like they're both outstanding mice um now the Logitech g203 this used to be like in the a tier or the base tier cuz I was like you know this is one of the best budget mice you can get um but now at this point it is outdated as much as I hate to say like I'm really like damn am I putting this in the outdated tier but I guess so like why would anybody buy a wired like g203 light sink at this point with a rubber cable bad stock skates just heavyweight questionable overall quality I mean I don't know it's not something I'd recommend the g305 is still like a great like cheap office Mouse buy but and yeah in my opinion Logitech really needs to release like a g305 super light but I just don't see it happening like they just don't touch their old lineup it's super [ __ ] weird um the grpr hero though my first ever mouse that one is going to have to be in based tier I I used that with um a paracord the other day and I'm like yeah this just doesn't feel like quite a modern experience so I don't know I would not recommend these um super old Logitech designs at this point g402 um pretty much right there just the same opinion um mongr is still using it yes that is one thing this mouse has going for it but other than that it's just like a kind of weird version of of the g502 and yeah I always thought the g402 was just like a niche obscure Mouse and now it would just be like super weird if you were still like actively maning it the g502 this is a mouse where it could go in the outdated tier because there's the g502 X lineup but I'm just going to put it in DET here because I know there are still a lot of people using like 5-year-old crusty g502 thinking that it's the best mouse on the market and it's really not but I would never call I've never thought the g502 was like truly like hot garbage like some people do like unusable like the modern ones the wireless ones those are interesting if you play on a higher sense I don't think they're like the best on the market but yeah I don't think the g502 is like dirt but definitely outdated at this point Zin Z1 Pro that goes right wherever the fantech Arya is actually no I guess this one could go in age here because it is a little bit cheaper it is the more like Chinese Mouse company experience compared to fantech but you still get a viable product it's 4K compatible but I don't know with what dongle like I've never had 4K with mine um but it is is like just really solid if you want a small lightweight egg-shaped Mouse I believe it's Bluetooth compatible as well and it won't even cost you like $50 and for the that the quality is like pretty good I do hear they've made another shape cuz that was my only complaint like just make something that is an egg shape so I'll have to check that out um now the grpr wireless this one always goes into either dog [ __ ] or outdated at this point I really do feel like if you're on a grpr wireless like treat yourself do yourself a favor and get a GPX 2 or just a normal GPX if you can find at a good price like the weight the side buttons on both sides even though you can like flatten them out I still don't [ __ ] with it the double clicking issues um but it's really just the weight for me and the cating like I don't know why you would use a gr Pro Wireless at this point but it's not like it's an unusable product if you're still using it but I mean I guess outdated tier makes a bit more sense OG hyperx hire haste I mean this one it's just an all right Mouse it can either go like C or D tier I think the wireless one would wind up in like B tier so yeah I don't know I don't recommend the wired version anymore however much they're charging for it is probably too much I actually just looked through a list and realized I don't have any updated um pulse fire haste 2 so you can just take what I said about the wired one like don't really get it and now in your mind this is now the hyperx pulse fire haste 2 Wireless and that winds up in the be tier like it's just all right if you can catch it on a deal but it's nothing gamechanging it's just like hyperx makes very like standard run-of-the-mill mid-tier products and that's exactly what it is um it but it actually does have a 33 .95 now so I don't know still that a top recommendation g-wolves hottie s and the original hottie wired the original g-wolves hottie I used to call the Haiti um was a mouse that definitely got me into mice because it was so lightweight it was just like it was different it was unique at the time now I look back on I'm like it's pretty cheap like Chinese trash um but yeah it was a pretty good Mouse at the time and they never really expanded with the um hotti m shape which is kind of like a super light clone so I don't know why that was the case um Hello Kitty mouse that was featured in a video on my channel in 2020 I never actually found a way to buy this mouse again I think I got it on like Etsy or something super weird but outdated um same thing goes for the original g-wolves hsk without side buttons the wired fingertip Mouse and again g-wolves was like pretty revolutionary for their time they haven't done anything in quite a while though they just like keep teasing these mice so I mean especially given the quality I would be shocked if anybody is still legit using those like super old 2020 G wolves mice but all the more power to you now the rocket cane 200 this thing's like a brick just like you could really like damage somebody's skull with this Mouse um I think it was a Minecraft like Jitter clicking Mouse but again just like something weird from rocket now the cone pure Ultra the kpu a legendary mouse that a few years ago once again I probably had in one of the top tiers but it's a true shame that rocket really never expanded on this mouse and just made a wireless version with the same exact shape um the same incredible coating which was really one of the first great codings on a mouse another history lesson but yeah they just they abandoned it if you still have a modern one like paracorded with some nice replacement skates on it could it be an amazing Mouse I'm sure but I don't know I'm not going to recommend anybody to pick one up I don't even know if they're still like actively producing them or if you'd have to get one like used but yeah it's a relic of the past and just an incredible aggressive shape um that I loved so I still hold out hope that rocket will make a um modern version but the [ __ ] cone pure ass or whatever that it just ruined my hopes for them as a company now the extra m42 once again extra just needs to do something this could wind up I guess the C tier for the wireless version really or is it D tier yeah it's C tier um I don't know I wouldn't recommend paying up for it obviously it still is a unique shape with the um different backs but yeah I don't know if extra has plans to make a modern version I like everything in their lineup it could be great if they just modernized it took out the holes put in a new sensor um but again I just don't have much hope in them as a company the M4 I think I talked about the M4 Wireless earlier yeah that's in D tier so the M4 wired is just super [ __ ] outdated again that's like a 2020 Mouse I kind of like the outdated tier because I can be like yes at one point this existed but now you don't really need to buy it um now the matar M this was a super OG budget Mouse like a $30 Amazon Mouse it had hanano switches I don't know the sensor maybe a 33 60 70 uh but it just broke down on me after a day I don't even know if they produce it but it was like a super popular OEM shape I think it was like a clone of an Azz Mouse I don't know not worth your time um now the HK gaming mirror M outdated actually no dog [ __ ] HK gaming mice [ __ ] sucked are they still doing anything does anybody know is HK gaming like making keyboard stuff um but yeah they had the naous M as well which was truly the lowest quality Mouse I've ever felt it was sold at $70 they like upcharged it because it was one of the only zoi S2 clones at the time but it was just literally the worst scroll wheel I've ever felt in incredibly bad quality bad coding bad cable it was just all bad um so I don't know that Mouse still like it shows me it like humbles me whenever I use a mouse I think is bad nowadays I'm like man it has nothing on the HK gaming now M okay next up is The Cooler Master mm710 this is definitely like either a low tier Mouse if not outdated because they have the um mm72 I believe is what it's called the mm 711s the RGB version and this is just a mouse whenever I post on Tik Tok like this is a mouse that t to kids use because it was available on like clearance racks at big box stores for like 15 20 bucks and it was like a solid lightweight Mouse but you got to realize is this released like when it was a competitor to the final Mouse ultral Light 2 like it's just outdated I remember seeing it for the first time when I was on the bus the New York City bus on the way to high school um I I saw this I'm like wow it seems incredible then I get it and it's just like meh so mm710 I don't know why I went on the long rant but it was just always like just over produced cheap garbage but it was all right and you know it's a good formula in terms of a small claw grip shape um the mm720 again this is just I would say deer I mean it's all right there are some people who swear by the shape I swear to God like they're the weirdest people ever but they truly are like this is the only shape that makes sense it is like going back to the spawn I think like a 15 plus year old Mouse um so I don't know it's a cool design with the ring finger rest but the mm720 was just always such low quality I just didn't feel like it was really good enough to Warrant how [ __ ] bizarre it is but a really modernized like solid super light Wireless version could be nice I just don't see it happening but yeah the mm720 I do respect the people who go crazy about it okay now we just have a ton of Glorious mice that are going to go into the dog [ __ ] tier just because like yes I could put them in outdated but that's just a bit less fun to me um all of these just like original glorious mice they're they're not worth buying if you have them they're not worth having either I'm not really even saying that out of just anti-g glorious bias anymore it's just like at this point there's no way that these wired glorious mice are what's best for you but I also do find it weird that they don't make Like the Model D minus or the model o minus in um like pro versions they've just abandoned the smaller versions of their shapes glorious is fundamentally an unserious Mouse company but I don't know eventually people realize that so yeah now the original np1 I just checked and this is um permanently out of stock I believe so it is outdated but at the time um it was vax's first Mouse obviously I didn't like um numerous aspects of it but now they've made the np1 wireless on 4K Edition and I've been loving that despite the fact that the weight is still in the 70 G range like I don't know it's an insane Mouse I'll get to that one later but yeah now the ponage ultra custom um this was the um Ergo version I guess I just forgot what it was I had a dementia moment um but yeah I don't know this is not something that I would really recommend anymore it was one of the first like Wireless EC mice but again it just released in like 2020 I don't know if I would quite say it's dog [ __ ] or just like I don't know more so outdated and yeah next up is the Viper 8K wired I know like many mice this has some devoted like Fanboy shows whatever you want to call it and I do respect the performance it was really the first like traditionally available 8K Mouse um but yeah just it has like the original Viper those rubber grips on the side side buttons on both sides just not great build quality the original version of the optical the list goes on and it's just a wired Viper um at not an impressively lightweight so I don't recommend it but if you can get one for a deal and you want 8K I it's like I guess it's a solid Budget Buy um unlike the Rival 310 which deserves no words it's just like is anybody using that any one person in the comments let me know um same thing goes with the Rival 600 like I'm going to time stamp these and like the one person in the world who cares is going to be so disappointed cuz I can't even muster up words like these mice are like just so so outdated like they just they should be at the top of the outdated tier because steel series it's just unfortunate do I even have like the prime Wireless on here probably not but I don't know it's unremarkable as well um next up is the Pulsar X2 ambidextrous and this should be in like the unnecessary tier um more than anything I guess dog [ __ ] just to piss the left-handed people off um but yeah they do have like the side buttons on both sides to accommodate left-handed people um they're like removable similar to how the original grpro um Wireless was but yeah really um nothing to say it is unique in that it's the actually I guess it could be based because it's the only Mouse to accommodate left-handed people but unfortunately left-handed people aren't based so I don't know it's just it's wherever if you most people it's unnecessary completely next up is the Razer Viper mini which I never thought I would say but it's outdated you just can't find it anymore the original or not the original but the standard Razer Cobra the wired Edition at $40 has just taken its place and it's not like a massive upgrade and the fact it's the same price and the Cobra doesn't have any impressive specs is like kind of disappointing I wish they kept the Viper mini in production when this was like a $20 Mouse it was one of the best buys it was the original greatest budget Mouse of all time but now you can't find one so I don't know where else to put it but it's tragic putting it all the way down here because I mean that Mouse is a Legend um now the Razer Viper ultimate um this one can go in like d tier it is very outdated um cuz obvious ly like just get a Viper V2 Pro the V3 Pro is about to release um but yeah there are some people who still like it whether it be due to the charging dock side butns on both sides or just like I don't know they got it [ __ ] five years ago and they just can't switch off it for whatever reason it's still just like an all right Mouse um for the time it was good I I hated on it though pretty hard but yeah really whatever price it's at in 2024 I'm not going to be out there recommending the Viper ultimate zoi U2 on the other hand this is going to go in base tier at least for me personally I had a very good time um with this mouse it was zo's really first attempt at a modern lightweight Mouse it comes in at like 60 G it is a new shape from them entirely um which gets like very thin at the grip with um just a unique shape overall I feel like it kind of got killed by ELO shapes because people are saying oh it's just like the S2 but it's really nothing like the S2 recommend watching my full review but yeah zoi like I stained the coding and zoi dm'd me like do an experiment to see if I permanently stained it it was kind of insane I don't know if I even ever did that but um yeah it's definitely like a top tier Mouse in my opinion I just wish Zoe would focus on the tech side um they have this [ __ ] massive dongle but just make it 4K compatible they're really the only company at this point to not have any type of higher pulling rate solution and like some like zoi like Fanboys and shills like how do you justify that like it's not performing better because they don't have the best tech I I hate to break it to you um but yeah I'm still obviously I put in base tier regardless of that yeah I just wish they would focus on having like the best of the best implementation especially given the fact that they have a 540 HZ monitor releasing relatively soon um now the zoi S1 and s2c I feel like these can go in the C tier will that piss some people off probably it's just in a weird point with these um like the Za series The S2 um like when is zoi going to make them Wireless that's a real question they've only done it with the EC and then launching a new shape with the U2 so yeah I mean I guess they can go in be tier because I don't think that you're going to have a bad time I just don't think it's really a buy that makes sense and with the Za shape there really has been nothing that's even come close to it so unless you're just praying that zo releases like a wireless modernized version it's an all right buy it's just not something I'm recommending for the money um and performance just in the current market like an op1 8K is $75 the 1K version is $50 and what does the CER zoi mouse cost like 70 and if they were to update them maybe like the D series and it's like 8K fired that would be incredible but it's like would anybody bet on zoi to do that I personally wouldn't but yeah I mean there's more to come with zoi this year hopefully we will see by the next year list um but yeah gwolf skull mini and the skull these are outdated just completely abandoned by g-wolves the skull mini was one of the first like sub 50 g mice if I remember correctly and Ergo Mouse I was like [ __ ] finger tipping it playing crunker it was um really good at the time but yeah it's just um I don't know why they abandoned it actually g-wolves should relase say um just skull mini but up to date as it can be like [ __ ] 30 G wireless and the original skull is just a giant like zoi ec1 is type shape and yeah it did not stand the test of time I feel like I've said that term a lot this video next up is the ultr light two from final Mouse and I feel like once again this is going to have to fall into the outdated category at this point I saw one being tested on an xlat it's like very high in terms of Click latency it's locked to 500 htz unless you like use that weird software where I still know my ultral light 2 lore it was one of the first mice that really got me into mice but I can't recommend buying one at this point for anything above like $80 if you just want to try the lightweight final Mouse small shape but you can just get the cheetah obviously the ulx is a lot more expensive but it's also significantly lighter than the ultra light 2 was so I just don't recommend it at this point um same thing goes with the original endgame gear xm1 xm1 r whatever this is I guess this one can go in like B tier because they do have the xm1 18K supposedly coming out soon which is the same as the op1 18K and that could be a top tier Mouse presuming you're looking for an xm1 shape um but I would definitely recommend the xm2 wi over this which I'll probably put an AG here wherever that is on this list okay yeah here it is the xm2 Wii that just makes a lot more sense it has the same 3370 sensor it is only locked to 1K polling and yeah it's not going to blow you away like the op1 18K will in terms of performance well most people noce a difference honest to God probably not um but yeah it's not it's nothing crazy but I recommend it probably on the same level as like the lambu Atlantis V2 just comes down to whether you want the lightweight or just the solid like quality that comes with the endgame gear experience now the atam palom hydrogen which should deserve its own like disappointment tier because this if you watch my previous tier list videos when this was in its like three-year delay I was hyping this up the expectations were so high with this and then it just launched and it was such a such a dud I don't even know what happened to mine they made a V2 version it didn't seem to be any type of massive Improvement so I just like I don't know it can the atom palom hydrogen can exist if it has a legion of users that would shock me um but I'm sure they will be mad about this but I don't know that was it was just such an unimpressive Mouse experience it was really just [ __ ] ass um so unfortunate timing really the m1k from Zan kunig this has to go into the outdated tier even though I mean it was always very limited it's not like you could just go out and buy one but yeah both the m1k and the m2k are no longer being produced um but yeah they were based mice to begin with in the 20 G range I think the m1k belongs in the base tier because it was just the I mean it's the craziest [ __ ] mouse ever um carbon fivr it was like $350 maybe it was actually a little bit cheaper um but yeah just a pure finger tip Mouse I never liked it I'm not saying to go spend $1,000 to get an original m1k um but yeah definitely belongs in the base tier while the m2k I'll just put that in outdated but yeah the m3k I spent my $400 and ordered one I don't know when it'll show up but the m3k will be on the next tier list but yeah these are definitely the most based fingertip mice but does that mean they're the best oh now we have the steel series Prime Wireless I swear a few minutes ago I was like I don't know if this one's on the list um and yeah it'll honestly go in dog [ __ ] like it's a steel series awkward rigid Ergo shape some people stand by it like they do every shape um but yeah it has a 3335 sensor at the time it launched it was like $130 but steel Series has like nuked the prices on some of their mice I think this along with the Mini version are like maybe like 70 bucks now so is it God awful no but it's in the dog [ __ ] tier so do with that info what you will um now the vxi n1s wired this will go in the outdated tier and when I talk about the um np1 s Wireless um which I guess I will do right now um it goes into the base tier yeah both the n 1 and the np1 S Wireless the now 4K versions are some of my like favorite just solid Wireless mice on the market they are obviously on the um heavier side but the n1s is such like a unique thin shape it really doesn't feel like the np1 that much um but yeah it's a little bit like thin for me the side buttons are small even the scroll wheels just a bit small so I do actually prefer the np1 wireless at this point um and that's a lot more of like a bulky filling mouse that I kind of relax or aggressive claw grip it's really a mix yeah I do think vxi mice are absolutely top tier they are like 130 with a 4K dongle and it is a higher ASP you're getting like a truly premium feeling product it's on the same level as zoi in terms of price and arguably it's better performance a larger variety of shapes um but yeah I'm kind of a vxi fan I don't know what it is uh but yeah now the rocket cone Pro air this belongs in like d tier honestly it can go in c-tier all of the units I've had I picked one up when it was on like a massive Black Friday sale and it had like the same scroll wheel issue and just super awful click quality it's a good shape if you want something like larger for Palm grip but I can't really um say the quality is going to be great and it is kind of outdated in terms of Wireless experience at this point I think the cone pure air again or the rocket pure air whatever it's called was their solution for this but it's just like I don't know I guess it belongs in outdated even though you can probably pick one up for pretty cheap price on Amazon now the extra mz1 Z rail the original mz1 it kind of has to go into the outdated tier um because the mz1 wireless that's at least trying to be a bit more modern but the wired version um with the super bad shell creaking I don't recommend it much at this point but it does have the um RGB rails like Rocket Jump Ninja intended but yeah really just praying extra fry actually releases new mice um now the Razer Orochi V2 again I used to speak pretty highly of this mouse for like a smaller fingertip Mouse um but now I guess it's like just kind of on the same level the Logitech g305 I guess I recommend it a bit more but compared to mice like the Zin Z1 Pro fantech ARA I feel like the arochi just loses out it is one of the smaller like egg shaped variants but the quality of my clicks was always just terrible they never did anything to really address that in the design but it's just not the like small budget Mouse it once was and it is of course battery powered now the faxi outset ax um I guess this is the wireless version and this goes in the a tier for some people um they're like this is literally my best mouse for aiming I can't aim as well as I can on this mouse like with anything else so uh I guess for some people it does have like that magic factor I was never a fan of like just how high-profile and like stubby the shape is along with the very heavy weight um but it's not like an EC it's just like a squished up EC but yeah I don't know for some people who Palm grip I would imagine it is like really a god tier shape but for me I just I avoid it but I got to acknowledge that it's one of the um top mice on the market it seems like a lot of TAC FPS players enjoy it now the Razer Naga um I don't know where this goes probably dog [ __ ] I've always hated on this just the entire style of mice they just I don't know I care about mice for like FPS and aiming and it does not Excel for that I God bless it though and that's all I'm going to say now the vancer Greta this one has to be outdated this was really like an original final Mouse Starlight 12 medium clone it was the first one it was a super like underrated Chinese Mouse for a while but yeah it's just is not relevant at this point vancer does have some better mice coming out soon I believe the groove and I can't remember the other one's name um but yeah where are their other mice cuz those belong in outdated as well the caster and the pox I don't even know if these were ever officially for sale but I just remember reviewing them and just being so [ __ ] disappointed so yeah vancer so far has not really like blown me away as a mouse company the Greta was probably their best offering like when it was relevant at the time but apparently their new mice are the real deal so we will have to find down okay next up are The Starlights and these are in a weird spot putting them in outdated would be really troll but given the fact the ulx exists the WL Mouse beastx which is pretty much a medium Starlight clone I feel like these have to just be like one tier bumped below like I think they're a tier if you already have them but I don't think if like going out and buying a Starlight is an a tier decision like I just don't think it really makes much sense I also don't know why I have like a duplicate of the Starlite with specifically the 10 Edition um but I think 10 is pretty cool but I feel like if I put this in the base tier like people are going to think that version's like actually better um so it can go in the dog [ __ ] tier people are going to be confused regardless the 10 star light it's more or less the same the medium version I have of the 10 star light is like really pristine quality wise though so I can't really complain Starlights are solid but just not quite the um ulx which is the next option and again even the ulx I feel like at $190 it is very hard almost impossible to like justify that price given the fact something like the ninjutso s exists and that's $100 a few GS more but it does have a solid shell um yeah I've just been a final Mouse fan forever I love their shape specifically the small and the medium I haven't tried a ulx cheetah yet though and I'm not the biggest fan of the Tiger but it seems like other people are but yeah the ulx it's there's a lot of drama but it's still one of my mice that I actually keep in rotation yeah really I've just always been a fan of whatever final Mouse is current offering it is and currently with the ulx in my opinion it's the best it's ever felt it's obviously going to be lighter than The Starlights better sensor better clicks it's just all around improved but I do feel like final M like over the years at least with this recent drop like the fomo the gap between them and the competition in terms of weight has decreased so yeah I don't feel like there's much like fomo like if you're not shelling out $190 like you're absolutely missing out but I don't know I've had a good experience with my UL X's monitoring them heavily for like any build and click quality deterioration um but yeah now the WL Mouse beastx I guess this is like both the mini and the large size much more of a fan of the medium size not the large my apologies um because the medium it's just like much smaller and thinner lower than the final now small shape which is already like really pushing it for somebody with normal sized hands so yeah Beast X Mini very [ __ ] small but the Beast x medium it's really just um a final Mouse ulx medium shape like 98% of the way there and yeah originally there were some quality issues that have since been ironed out with the Beast I would say now the biggest issue is just like the generally weak battery life um but yeah considering the fact it's a few grams heavier than the ulx in my opinion like the slits on the side as opposed to holes it's a bit just worse of a design but generally the fact that it's like an instock Mouse like around $50 cheaper for most people it makes more sense rather than waiting on a ulx if that's the experience you want um they did make a boardy edition if you think I'm like selling out Shilling really not the case whatsoever I mean I get accused of Shilling that you all that so apparently I'm a show for [ __ ] everybody and yeah next up is going to be the piranha Mouse mods um just all of his stuff in general I have not tried an updated piranha Mouse mods product in a few years honestly and so I really can't attest to his latest stuff I know some of the mod kits can get pretty cheap though um yeah I definitely want to try one of his mice that isn't on a g305 PCB because currently I just don't really know but I've always thrown his stuff in around B tier because it's solid but I just never felt like it's best of the best on the market um but 3D printed Wireless mice have always been quite Niche now the Ninjutsu origin 1X their original Mouse and and just meh and yeah this was a 3335 generation wireless mouse I was never a huge fan of it but I still remember the shape the super aggressive curvature like for your thumb and it just like interacts with your palm for claw grip in a way that no other shape has so it could be like revitalized but in my opinion like I don't even know if they sell it anymore you can probably get one for like 30 bucks and at that point it might be a half a decent buy but still not relevant now the quadri click RBT this was a mouse that's designed for like arthritis or something as you can see like the clicks are on a second layer above the mouse and I like their owner was freaking out at me via email like this year and I reviewed the mouse like two years ago um for like saying that it was bad so I don't [ __ ] know what the deal is with that thing so I guess it belongs in dog [ __ ] tier next up is the bloody A7 this was always like a Minecraft double clicking mouse that was just God awful in terms of like build quality weight sensor shape just everything that makes a mouse good this did not excel at um but I don't know if it's like out data at this point if people are still using it but it's just a terrible Mouse truly um no other words are needed um now the ec2 wireless from zoi I feel like this belongs I don't know right in front of the Pulsar xite V3 Esports Edition just because like I don't know it's the same thing as the zi experience except it isn't from zoi so if you do want the true zi EC wir list I believe they have the um ec1 and the EC3 as well somebody can correct me if I'm wrong but I feel like they fledged out the entire lineup in Wireless and that just belongs in the a tier like it's not based in my opinion just cuz I'm not like a super easy to like shill but I understand a lot of people are so it has to be at the tip top um though like the $130 price no 4K I'm not a huge fan of that um now the Glorious series 1 Pro what happened with this did they ever make like no they definitely Never released the shape as its own thing so it was really just a group buy and then they just gave up on it even though it was a great shape um like kind of of similar to the Viper mini um Wireless a little bit bigger it was lightweight it was kind of impressive but they just never threw in good Tech maybe they will in like 2 years because that's how [ __ ] glorious moves but unfortunately I guess that one is gone in the wind as many mice often are now The Cooler Master mm 712 I don't know where this goes like B tier C tier I think it has a 3370 I believe I gave this mouse the seal of approval if I put this in the seater that would be the lowest a seal of approval Mouse has ever gone so I don't know if I can risk that so maybe it's like at the absolute bottom of B tier I mean it really depends on the price if you can find one for like under $50 equivalent then it's like it's a solid Budget Buy not as good as the vxe R1 Pro which I believe I don't have on this list and that is genuinely pains me I'll have to like replace another mouse for it but yeah I just don't really recommend the mm72 it is a good shape and I understand like Cooler Master products are available everywhere so if you can get one piss cheap it's decent but yeah I don't know it's either like low B tier high C tier it does have a high sensor for position kind of unique um yeah just generally it's a Cooler Master Mouse now we have the g705 I think I might need to this deserves its own tier this deserves its own inclusive tier how do I do this add a row above okay now how do I give it a name inclusive and then now we can put the g705 in the inclusive tier I mean you got to leave a like for inclusivity yeah I really never get political but I feel like this mouse just perfectly shows like the direction Logitech went they wanted to Pander to marginalized genders with a just awful Mouse like a heavy small just shitty Mouse like I've tried it I've reviewed it instead of just giving people shapes that they've been begging for for years so it's really unfortunate but it is also inclusive um now the model o Pro this was similar to the series 1 Pro where it was just a group buy um that they did with a lightweight model o but they actually did um update this with the model o02 and then the O2 Pro um the O2 Pro is actually similar to this in that it's like decent and lightweight the original O2 I think it's right here it's honestly dog [ __ ] D it could be in D tier um it could be argued into C tier but I really hated it yeah like I said I'm sure the O2 Pro is better I still haven't tried it personally I did buy the D2 Pro um but glorious doesn't send me mice and I was just thinking like at best this is a worst Viper V2 Pro so it's like do I really do I need to try it do I need to review it and I opted not to um so I'm sorry glorious fans if you're somehow still watching now we have the iron cat um hpc2 and the HPC1 M if you put a gun to my head and ask me a difference between these mice I would have no idea I don't even know if I've reviewed both of them or if the editing Department somehow included this one but I know one of them is like a GPX clone or like China GPX imitation shape with hot swap switches but it was just really overall no good and way too expensive or did have like some other gimmick I honestly don't know but I just would not recommend it either version but I don't think they're dog [ __ ] and what's fun funny is the company is also called inot it's also called iron cat so I feel like inot is just like how a Chinese person would say iron cat and I've never been proven wrong so I really need to put these in a tier I don't know they seem like C tier to me where it's like I wouldn't recommend them but they have a decent gimmick going on next up is going to be a wiseowl ogm pro I believe this was their first Mouse and this is another like just B tier solid Chinese Mouse it actually does have quite good quality but it's around 70 G if I remember remember and it's just not really an a tier Mouse in my opinion even though I did just accidentally place it there yeah this is something of a morph between like a zoi EC the steel series Prime and just like a kind of flat rigid rocket shape um it's a very interesting Mouse but it's one like that if you missed out on I don't feel like it was anything massive and I kind of just set the floor for the wise out Cloud which is in my opinion a very good Mouse next up is going to be the Viper me signature and it might seem like with my like elitist lightweight small Mouse preferences I would be like a huge fan of this but it honestly like it missed the mark for me it's 49 G which is by no means heavy but for a super small shape like the Viper mini I just I don't know it was not massively impressive for me it felt too small um when I was playing fortnite and the side buttons on multiple copies were just horrible like they deteriorated a lot of like creaking tons of pre and post travel like it's really awful experience and I mean it's $290 it's a $300 and I mean people hate on the ulx for the price which I think is pretty valid but it's like where is the value with the Viper bitty Sig even compared to the Sora V2 you can pretty much get three of those for the price of a viper mini signature it's a lighter Mouse like what where's the value really at yes it's incredible performance but I don't know it's really not one of my like personal GOI mice I much preferred like flatter sided shapes like the op1 X2 mini final Mouse just in general I think it's a lot better now death ater V2 hypers speed another C tier Mouse I feel like almost everything in C tier is just like a mid-level razor mouse that I don't feel too strongly about I do think that this like it had a really good place in the market I just checked it's like $50 so if you are that more like casual type you want the old death ater shape it's probably the best option for that but I don't think it really competes with top tier options but it's widely available it has good features even has extra buttons on like the top of Mouse one and I have a pretty fond like memory of it I believe it uses batteries I think all the hypers speed versions do and now the Death Adder V3 wired an absolutely based Wired Mouse pretty much on the same level as the op1 18K where these are my top two wired recommendations if you want something larger for like claw or Palm grip um go with the death rv3 obviously if you want an ergo but if you want like the smaller thinner uh Mouse then go with the op1 8K but yeah the 8K on the death V3 the better coating a solid build quality and a lighter weight like compared to the wireless version it's kind of a incredible deal if you can stand the um average wire it's not mediocre but it's not the best of the best um speaking of the best of the best the Pulsar X2 boury Edition I mean this I guess it could be considered outdated because it is no more but at the same time this is my video this is my mouse so it's obviously going to wind up in base tier if you purchased a boardy X2 shout out to you see that rhymes not many things do um now the g-wolves hottie s+ 4K uh this is another mouse where it's like top of a tier it's nothing that I ever really consistently used I mean maybe I'm just like guilty of some anti-g wolves bias cuz I know a lot of people enjoy them but I I just don't [ __ ] use g-wolves and yeah it's not like G wolves has a really bad reputation for Quality like they did in the past their Wireless is fixed up um I just was not a big fan of the htx shape but the Hott S I enjoy it for claw but again I feel like it's similar to the Sora V2 the lam zumaya and other Mouse where I think they're just good m but they're not like the greatest the best for me personally but a tier that's still pretty much like some of the best stuff on the market now the G 502x um a very interesting mouse that I honestly haven't used my personal copy of in a while it's definitely not going to go into a tier but I feel like it could go into B tier because it is like it's pristine quality yeah the weight's kind of insane I feel like the lightest Wireless version is around like 88 G or maybe that's the wired one I don't know if it's still above 100 G so I remember using it using it with a higher sense and the experience wasn't bad it's still like I don't know it's a g502 maybe maybe I'm crazy and it belongs in a lower tier but I really don't think so and if you think it's the best mouse on the market please get a grip um now the Asus rag harp Ace this is a mouse that I don't know kind of it was just obscure it was asus's large like grpro Wireless alternative um It's a larger Ambi but I was not a huge fan of like all of the features I believe Asus like announced some mice at CES so similar to a lot of these other companies um they might have some stuff coming out soon I feel like that was just a very broad statement but yeah I'm not like a huge fan of the heart AAS um but some people I guess you could really argue it into a tier if you have like large hands but for me it was very um forgettable now the hsk pro this is the mouse that I am a big hater of I just hate the shape I don't think it's good I don't think it's really a um shape that makes sense for fingertip much less with large hands um I feel like if I put in the dog [ __ ] tier I would just lose too many subscribers so I don't know where it belongs um where do I even put it just B tier definitely not there um I don't know where's the hsk plus it can go right next to that or I'm just I'm truly not fans of them I don't think spending well over $100 for an hsk makes sense in any form I will say that much um now the ge's htx this could go into H here um similar to the hotti s+ I think I kind of just said this is a very flat shape um there's not it just feels too thin and awkward for fingertip with where I grip but yeah it is in the low 40 G range I do feel like the 4K version is a bit overpriced at like around $170 like that's kind of [ __ ] ridiculous um and yeah I was never able to CLA grip the shape just not a big fan of it but I know it works for some people yeah personally it's probably in a lower form of ater especially because the quality of life was just so bad originally because the dongle and the mouse itself used different cables to charge and it was just like it was stupid as [ __ ] so I don't know I'm not a big fan of the htx but maybe G Wolf's new stuff that will blow me away now we have the lamu Atlantis and the Atlantis mini um the Atlantis I feel like it just belongs in a tier it could be in base tier but I haven't personally used mine that much it's just really the same as the xm1 in terms of shape the xm2 Wii honestly but the Atlantis mini um this is just a smaller version I feel like it's a bit more unique of a mouse and some people with small hands for claw grip seem to swear by the shape the sides are very curved it was just a bit too small for me to keep in my main rotation but it's definitely a viable Mouse obviously the new batches are tuned up in terms of quality 4K compatible under $100 like it's hard for you me to complain about this outside of the shape obviously the weight is good and yeah I would honestly recommend an Atlantis mini over an htx um for most people and the standard Atlantis it's really just to toss up whether you want that or the xm2 Wii yeah when the Atlantis came on the scene it was definitely like really one of the first like Chinese mice to hit it big we could say and yeah I think it's solid the extra FY M8 on the other hand this is an unfort Mouse I mean the whole selling point was that it had low button height but it sacrificed so much to get that and it still just had a God awful design it charged out of the side of the mouse you got to realize how insane that is they literally today the day I'm recording this video they put it on 50% sale I guess they realized like they were just chopped liver so they had to had to re-evaluate and yeah I do think I remember seeing some leaks for a modern version with actual like Comfort grooves on the clicks and it it is tiring being so right all the time about like mice but somebody has to do it and when I said the extra 5 M8 was no good it seemed to prove that way in the long run but God I [ __ ] hate that Mouse it was like super small just awkward in general um but yeah you can watch the original reviews of it if you want a laugh um now the XE Wireless from vxi similar to the um outset ax I feel like it just belongs right there where it's like kind of an alternative to the GPX shape it's just like the GPX shape if it was different it's just a very safe [ __ ] formula there's no aggressive back hump it doesn't force you into any style of grip I always just found it to be a bit meh and it was always a bit heavier than the super light but I'm sure if I just like fully committed to it for two weeks I would like it a lot but um yeah just really just baxi's safest ambidextrous design I would say quite possibly their only ambidextrous design um but yeah now we're going to move on to the attack shark X3 and this is like a piss cheap Mouse like 30 to $40 range and I was pretty big on it when I originally got it but I at some point I got a second copy and the clicks just felt very cheap on both copies so this is a mouse where it's like yes if you have that $30 budget it's viable if you just like are getting your first PC a lot of people are on Console I don't know why you would get a mouse at any point on Console yeah there you go get the attack shark X3 if you're on Console it is like a kind of mini GPX is style shape if I had to say it there's a lot of those coming out of um China and yeah there's a version called the kaisa m600 like different companies same manufacturer it's supposedly a little bit better in terms of quality clicks um but yeah it's just nothing special it's a solid budget Mouse now the lethal gaming gear la1 I feel like this one is very unfortunate because lethal gaming gear had this planned out for a while and at the time it was going to be like if it released on schedule it would have been one of the top mice but they got sabotaged by their Factory um which is like all sorts of drama that could like literally make its own video um but yeah now I think they're currently $60 because they had had to do a massive sale due to just the side Flex issue on um that's present on pretty much every copy and I think for $60 $33.95 lightweight Mouse very good click quality like it's not bad but I it's just not like up there with the top mice in my opinion I don't use my copy too much I don't think I've ever made a full review but if there's enough interest I might or I might just wait for a new mouse from lethal gaming gear where they are hopefully not sabotaged um now what do we have the vxi outset ax I believe this is the wired one cuz yeah spoke about the wireless um it's just going to go in outdated tier for Simplicity I don't know if they're still selling it I honestly doubt it but yeah just get the get the wireless version that would be my recommendation I remember the wired one was quite heavy um and the cable it just wasn't great all around now the daru a950 pro magnesium the most forgettable magnesium Mouse of them all I mean where's it belong B tier I don't know and yeah it's not really [ __ ] but at the same time it's not worth spending like A1 1250 whatever this mouse cost um on like just a random Chinese magnesium Mouse for the sake of it being magnesium I know they do have a plastic version I believe it's literally around the same weight I've never tried that one but yeah that's probably still around BG or AG at best um but yeah I don't really have too much insight into this mouse I recommend watching my full review if you really care but like I said extremely forgettable next up is going to be the deluxe m800 Ultra they're are like um billion versions of this mouse and going to wind up in Beach here I feel like it really missed the mark like some of these China mites like you either have it or you don't and this one I just remember like going back to my review there are a lot of like just minor grievances with it but I still recommend it over the Cobra Pro considering it's like a third of the price I don't know if it's like 4K 8K compatible but I know it's around 50 g numerous shortcomings but it's still just like all right but Deluxe has generally lost their luster over the years in my humble opinion now the endgame gear op1 we this is the wireless version with some of the heaviest clicks ever you can swap them out for a slightly less heavy version but that costs money it's not a pain in the ass but it's just like I don't know I don't really stand by the op1 Wii as much it's around 10 G heavier than the wired version I mean the op1 8K that is taking the World by storm where I feel like the op1 Wii has simmered out so I don't know a tier it could be like be here cuz I really just don't recommend going for it but it's still it's still quite solid I don't know could wind up back in eight here um flip-flopping lots of that now the fantech Helios um 2 whatever this is officially called This is their S2 clone the most modified or the most modern version a slightly modified version of the shape and I just don't know where to put this I've really thought it fell short um especially with the coding just the overall like build quality it was being raved by other people and it still is so it's possible my unit was just a dud um but even just for like a more budget like S2 clone type I do think this is like I think $80 with a 4K dongle so it's by no means an egregious price around 55 G it's just a solid Mouse for claw grip but I don't think it's really excellent really my gut tells me to put it into B tier and you always got to listen to your gut um now the Glorious model D2 Pro this is once again going to go into B TI here I mean by far the best mass-produced glorious mouse ever I mean they did some of those limited drops that were pretty good but this one they're still selling it I don't think the weight balancing is the best it really just does fall flat compared to like the xite V3 in my opinion it's by no means as premium as the Death Adder V3 Pro and it's like $130 yeah you get the 4K dongle but if you're going to spend premium Mouse money you should get it from a non- glorious like premium Mouse brand in my opinion so it's just not something I rate too highly and just given where the Ergo Market has gotten it's not it's not my top choice and it's currently only available in one size so does even win out there now the Lambs sua this can settle in the a tier the updated version my original red unit I did have some issues with um cating just creaking button quality but overall this newer badge copy I got I was able to enjoy the mouse a lot more and it's similar to the um ninjutso Sora V2 um even the Sora V1 where these are small mice they're light mice but they're really only designed for like small to medium hands and Claw grip so with bigger hands it's just nothing that really works exceptionally well for me and the way the sides curve in it it doesn't make sense for fingertip and I do know the Tachi is coming soon from lambu and that might be a slightly modified version of the Maya shape I know it's a little bit bigger but I don't know the Maya it's still a good deal if you want a small Mouse 4K compatible lightweight under $100 but I don't know it's in a pretty contested Market there but for some people if they seem to love it the Atlantis V2 4K I already spoke about the Atlantis just pretend I had the right picture um no time needs to be spent there and now the L Thorn I might get called a hater I don't know where this goes like B tier or a tier because for me I don't touch this thing at all I think it's just like a weird Palm grip shape it forces you into a very specific type of grip whenever I try to claw it like with my thumb at an angle it just doesn't fit in my hand like other Eros do and yeah my gripe with the Thor is entirely with its shape it is one of the lightest weight Eros um like actually at a decent size eyes and I do think like more or less the quality the implementation weight balancing it's all up to par but it's just not a shape that I'm going to use consistently and yeah they do have the fanatic branded version so I don't know it seems like people are liking it if [ __ ] fanatic's willing to do it then again fnatic did the bolt so I don't really know but yeah it's going to sit in B tier just cuz personally it's B tier just kidding I'm actually going to put it in low a tier along with the fantech Helios 2o because I feel like my gripes with those mice are just very personal and that they can still be very good buys for people and I feel like there is a pretty big like distinction between a tier and B tier so I'm just trying to be fair trying to keep everybody on their toes and now the ninjutso Sora like I keep doing this where I [ __ ] up the labels we can pretend this is like the original like 4K version I feel like that's pretty much in beat here it's honestly a shame that they released the 4K version right before doing the V2 which is just so much lighter but it is a different shape I could see how some people if you just want like a somewhat thicker feeling Mouse um could prefer the sord a V1 but yeah I wasn't too big on it I'm definitely more of a fan of the V2 but still not just really a killer shape for me now we have the optimum Tech zero Mouse I really don't know where to put this one um I guess it's based because Optimum Tech is the goat isn't that right everybody um but yeah I was not I was not in love with his Mouse but I don't know it's similar to a lot of these mice where I don't think you can really buy it but I'm not going to put in the outdated here that would be [ __ ] up now the wiseowl cloud this is another mouse it's either going to be at the top of H tier or base tier it is a steel series Sensei clone which we have never seen before so it is a large Ambi Mouse a very rare very scary thing um and it's just executed very well from wisel in my opinion it's like really good quality sensor implementation click quality just it's overall held up well and I actually still do use it um from time to time if I want just like a bigger Longer feeling Mouse so yeah I do think the cloud is very underrated um it could honestly go into the base here it is like $120 with the 4K dongle but I don't know if I really if I enjoy it quite that much but yeah it's definitely one of the better large mice on the market um so give it a shot and now the last Mouse of the video shocking Pulsar xite V3 I feel like this just goes right in a tier like it's one of those um like good not great but where it is kind of great it's just not exceptional um when it comes to Eros and they do have all three sizes they have a large which is like ec1 esque it's not an identical shape but it's a similar size and generally a feeling in hand like if you use an ec1 you'll be able to adjust to an xite V3 large and then they also have a mini if you want like a [ __ ] super small like ponage Stormbreaker level of size Ergo and then just the standard size of course which they also have the um the3 version of and yeah the quality is solid the weight is very low and yeah I personally prefer it over the lambu Thor for how I grip the mouse uh but yeah it's not like there's going to be a big difference it really just is a tossup and I feel like a here is where it belongs with pretty much every other Pulsar product I believe and yeah I guess that's it I was looking for another mouse God damn this is a lot of mice I'm going to have to make this significantly smaller so you can see everything okay I think that is good and honestly let me move a few things around like get the little meme choices out of the top of the tier and yeah I feel like base here I want to keep it a bit smaller in terms of like what I truly stand by I think is the tippity top of the market and then we have a here with a ton of options I mean because the mouse Market is saturated so it makes sense and yeah I don't know if there's anything I need to adjust oh yeah the vgn I did not talk about the vxe R1 so I mean that is a mouse that I literally just reviewed I think like two days before recording this video and it's pretty much a pulsar X2 inspired shape it's literally $37 though it's like 4K compatible 50 g well built good switches like it's an insane Mouse but I forgot to add it to the list but it's made by the same manufacturer as the vgn F1 so the vx1 just pretend it's there um and yeah that is the one thing I really missed but as always I agree with my opinions I think that this is I mean the greatest Mouse tier list ever assembled let's be honest here let's keep it humble um but yeah I don't really know what else there is to say let me know what you guys thought of the outdated tier I think it was a definitely a relief but I could see why some people would feel would feel cheaped out like hey some of these mice aren't outdated I'm one of the eight people in the world who uses a gr Pro Wireless still um so yeah let me know make sure to of course leave a like And subscribe and if you want any more information on any of these mice I almost certainly have a review posted so check that out links for everything in the description below and that's going to be all 162 Mouse tier list the most most shocking tier list ever assembled peace out