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Lecture on Technology, Humanity, and Spirituality

[Music] this dangerous place in technology where we know just enough to mess things up we we can edit and hack human DNA what we don't know Andre is we don't know the implications of what we're doing because Science And scientists have yet to fully understand what it means to be human and one of the places where I think this is coming to light quickest and this is how science will learn science eventually will have if science is to REM remain valid science has to come to terms with the fact that there is something beyond the human body uh that is not being accounted for in the scientific models I'll just say I um I grew up in Northern Missouri and when I started school I had the opportunity to see Albert Einstein's brain when he died they took his brain from his body and they preserved it in um University of Kansas and they thin sliced it to see what made his brain so different from everyone else what what set him apart from everyone else and what they found was it looked pretty much like anyone else's brain with one exception his brain had way more folds when you take all those folds and you stretch them out it means he had more surface area to his brain and that surface area is more neurons neurons we now know are essentially biological antenna we don't store memories in our brains we don't store memories of our loved ones and the neurons in our brain the neurons are the antenna that tune to a very specific place a vibratory space in the field that scientist now know connects all things 2012 the scientist that CERN the superconducting super collider in in Geneva Switzerland they announced yes there is a field that underlies all existence esoterically we had known that and talked about and everybody said well yeah sure there's a field but the scientific Community didn't acknowledge that in 2012 that wasn't that long ago so there's a field it is's a um a a subtle energy field and information is stored in that field our neurons are the antenna that tuned to very specific places in that field DNA does the same thing so for example exle when we want to learn something new if you're trying to learn a foreign language or I'm I'm a musician you're a musician we're trying to learn a a piece of music you know and we're trying to mimic what somebody else does and the first few times you do it you go through the motions and it feels awkward or you're speaking a foreign language and you're saying syllables that just sound weird all of a sudden you wake up one morning man you're thinking in Spanish you know you're thinking in French or all of a sudden you wake up one morning and you're playing like Steve VI my hero on the guitar and people say what happened in in that time well this is fascinating me if you watch the timelapse photographs of neurons trying to connect neurons are very social cells they want to hook up and they're looking for another neuron to hook up with that doesn't happen instantly it takes about 72 hours about three days for the the dendrites to to connect and find others so here's what's actually happening it is the act the act of you or me or anyone watching this to learn something new to become something more to better ourselves to become something more in the next moment than we were in the last moment that drive that compulsion that we feel is the trigger it's the command for the neurons to find other neurons to create the antenna that Tunes to the place in the field that holds what we're asking ourselves to master does that make sense if I say it that way it's it's it's amazing to see this happen and and this is why a lot of young people today new new generations their parents will say man my kids you know they're having a hard time learning because things don't come quickly to them they want to learn right now and and what I say to them is stay with it and allow the process give them three days ask them to stay with it for 3 days and see if it doesn't get better and it does whether you're trying to learn math science art music a language whatever it is so this is important we need our biology to connect to the information in the field Divinity is part of that information I think Beyond any reasonable doubt what the physics is showing is that we are in a virtual reality we're in a ulated experience or step Hawking before he died this was his last his last Quest he wanted to know if we are living in what he called a base reality is this the reality or are we a spin-off of of a a base reality that's happening somewhere else is Nick Bostrom uh 2001 put together the first algorithm plugged in a lot of variables and uh to determine what are the odds that this is a virtual reality and the bottom line is the odds are much greater than not that we are living in a simulated reality 1990 I was um I was hiking through uh a remote area Northwestern New Mexico chako Canyon in preparation to lead a group I was doing a reconnaissance trip and I was hiking on a remote Trail and there was a a native Man by himself who was hiking in the opposite direction and he stopped and and we talked for a few moments and he began to tell me a story and the story is pertinent to this conversation he said a long time ago the people of the earth remembered who they were and they lived much closer to the Earth they were much happier of course and he says something happened and even the elders don't know what it was but the people of the earth began to forget who they are but they so long for the Deep connection that they had between themselves and the forces of nature and the cosmos and the Earth under their feet they so longed for that connection that they began to build in the world outside of them reminders of what that connection meant in the world inside of them and he said we live in that world today we long for that connection we miss ourselves our true potential poal and he said we'll keep building stuff we'll clutter our world with gadgets and machines and devices that continue to mimic and reflect back to us who we are until one day we wake up and we say oh my God that's us and then we will let the external technology go because we will have remembered to awaken our inner technology the world becomes more sophisticated because we've awakened yet it looks simpler because the external clutter goes away and that man remains a friend today in one of the pblos in Northern New Mexico but I think his story and from his perspective uh it gives us a deep Insight maybe into why we are where we are in the world today we we are reaching this convergence point we can all feel it it's like a rubber band it's just stretched so far something's going to give and in in probably many different ways many things are are going to give because it's unsustainable but part of that is we're beginning to come back to ourselves and to understand who we are what our potential really is and that we we are more than the machines that we have built more than the AI more than the computer chips and so this is a decision now that we have to make as a society are we willing to give ourselves away to the efficiency and the speed of a computer chip at the expense of losing the power of human emotion of losing our ability to have empathy and sympathy and compassion for another being are we willing to trade those things in for efficiency and speed uh and that's a question we have to answer as a society opened up a lot of avenues and a lot of doors of where we're currently going with this exponential rise of Technology of doing it to a degree where we we might not understand the effects that it's having to our human Divinity and a lot of these aspects which people would see as super human that we have on demand within us and so I just want you to reflect if you will a little bit more about the story that we're telling ourselves about what is coming when you talk about the the people developing a technology and I Ed Ray kurile as as an example I've worked with a lot of these people I haven't worked with Ry but I've worked with people like this and they're techies and this is it and they're in their element what they've been given is permission to push the boundaries as far as they can uh and given the funding and the technology that allows them to open those doors now I have had conversations with him and I'd say well what does this mean for society what does it mean for a family what does it mean for for a human walking the Earth and here's what they'll tell me they'll say don't ask me that question it's above my pay grade say I'm not paid to think about the social implications I am paid to push the boundaries of this technology somebody else will figure that out well those techies now are running a lot of of the policies that we being asked to embrace with no thought of of the social or the moral implications or the lasting implications without the recognition of just how delicate of a balance our genome really presents to us and once you tweak that genome in very very specific ways which we can now do with you mentioned it crisper Gene editing you can't unedit I you can and it's a big process that I don't think you can go back in in a species once you make those changes so so yeah I think a lot of it is the technology I'll just encapsulate this way the technology has developed faster than the morality of how we use it in in our lives or what it means in in our lives and I think it's a very fair statement to say with your permission now can we go into something really deep in esoteric are you okay if we do I don't know it's not really my Avenue for this podcast we don't have to you don't want to I'd love to please let's let's continue deep diving well I think one of the reasons and this isn't new for Generations now since 1859 Charles Darwin put forth a theory that we called the theory of evolution in his book or Origin of Species uh was published in 1859 it was a different world in 1859 it was before my time I I certainly don't remember that You're Timeless Greg [Music] but he I've got a really interesting story to tell about uh I I published a book a few years ago and I did a radio interview commuter traffic interview in New York City to promote this book and it was all the evidence that does not support evolution so the interviewer came on in the morning and man there was you know no good morning welcome Greg how a 6: a.m. interview for me it was you know commuter traffic in New York I I live in the mountain states so it was 8 8: a.m. for them and the first thing he says he says what gives you the right to talk about Evolution and biology and I said I thought he was kidding I said excuse me and he says he says you're only a geologist what gives you the right to talk about biology and to question Darwin's theory of evolution and then I knew he was he was serious and I said I said to him I said my brother do you know what the profession was of the man who developed the theory of evolution do you know what Charles Darwin's profession was and he said no and I said he was a geologist and the guy he came back he said okay let's go to break and they took a break and he never came back so that was the end of that that conversation the point is that Darwin uh where I think Darwin made the mistake was he took what he saw with one form of Life One species of birds in one Loc of the galapagus: it breaks down when it comes to humans something happened to us that's not accounted for in our study of evolutionary biology it happened 200,000 years ago when the first anatomically modern humans is what they're now called amh is the acronym anatomically modern humans when the first amh emerged on our planet uh we now have the ability to extract the DNA from fossilized remains of of ancient forms of life including forms of life that we used to think were our ancestors and when you compare their DNA to ours now we know that we did not descend for example from Neanderthal we we may have some Neanderthal DNA some people do especially in northern Europe because we shared the Earth with them we walked the Earth with them they say we probably had the anderol boyfriends and girlfriends we we enter breed um was a a program not long ago and I made that statement there's a woman in the front row and she said I still do I still have a knee boyfriend and then the guy next to her wasn't laughing at all so I I got to see the whole relationship Workshop you know happen right right before my eyes but the point is we did not descend from Neanderthal we shared the Earth with them if we walked the Earth with them we couldn't have descended from them and the same is true for these other archaic forms of life what the DNA is saying on and this is is a mindblower because we don't have to speculate about this piece when you compare our modern genome you take your blood or my blood you compare that to the genome developed from the fossilized remains of our earliest ancestors we haven't changed we showed up 200,000 years ago we don't know where we came from we haven't changed since then now we have obviously changed in Consciousness we have evolved in the way we think but our biology has not changed we had all all of the advanced neural network and all of the ability to self-regulate and all the things that our Divinity was available to us to 200 200,000 years ago the way that it happened scientists now know this but they don't know what to do with what they have found is that there were mutations in our DNA that cannot be accounted for under natural circumstan they don't happen in nature human chromosome 2 it's the second largest chromosome in the human body in in the cell um it has about 12200 genes in that chromosome genes are little segments of the DNA the chromosome is the long strands of DNA and then the the genes are the shorter segments of of the DNA one of those genes is called TBR number one tbr1 is responsible for our brain size we showed up 200,000 years ago we got a brain 50% larger than our nearest primate relative boom just like that we it didn't happen slowly gradually over a long period of time with a a neocortex I know you've had my brother Joe dispens on before and he talks a lot about you know neuroscience and in the neocortex the mirror neurons that allow us uh the ability to Envision in our mind an image of what we want to happen in our bodies and then the mirror neuron feeding the brain and informing the body to produce the chemistry to match what we're seeing in our mirror neurons that happened 200,000 years ago now some other forms of life have to a lesser extent that but not like we have so human chromosome number two where did it come from well scientists now know it is the fusion of two existing chromosomes they're fused okay on on a typical chromosome and I know a lot of our viewers know this on the ends of the chromosome are the telr that protect the vital DNA information in here because when the cell divides and the chromosome split that's a trauma to that chromosome and part of the chromosome does not make the split you don't want that to be the good stuff in here so nature gives us this buffer on the ends called the telr when when the split happens the part that doesn't make it is not that vital because it's it's on the ends well here's chromosome number two what we see is there's telr on the ends of the chromosome and there's telr right in the middle because it was originally two separate chromosomes that were fused so now you've got telr where they should never be in the the middle of the chromosome that doesn't happen in nature but it didn't stop there because once that Fusion happened there was redundancy in the functions of the chromosomes so some of the chromosomes were turned off some of them were silenced some of them were removed some were added to stabilize this this can't happen in nature we didn't know what that meant until Gene editing occurred and it appears that a gene editing happened 200,000 years ago and if it was only chromosome 2 you could say maybe it's a fluke but it's not our ability as as a musician I've always had the question we share 98% of our DNA with a chimp for example 98% but chimps can't sing you know I've always wondered I mean you're never going to hear a chimp sing Le Zeppelin Stairway to Heaven and if you do let me know it definitely will yeah no it it can't happen and here's the reason because chromosome seven when you look at primates for about 175 million years I think that number is accurate chromosome 7 was stable no changes 175 million years all of a sudden there was this little tweak of two genes that were switched around and when that switch happened it gave us the ability it connected our tongue and our brain and our mouth in a way that gave gave us the ability to have complex speech and and to sing guess when it happened this 200,000 years exactly 200,000 years ago and there are other things that happened as well these things they didn't happen slowly gradually over a long period of time and they typically don't happen in nature so we begin to see that there that the odds of this occurring are so small that scientists say it appears that there's been an intervention that's the word that they use we don't they don't say who or what but there's been some kind of an intervention there's a reluctance in the scientific Community traditionally to do the latter where the information and I'm going to go into this a little bit more deeply where that information is leading takes the scientific Community to a place that they are traditionally not equipped to deal with and so they prefer to avoid it they're not bad people I have friends in Academia and I've asked them the question they say why can't you teach this to your students and they're the age I am I'm 70 so they've been teaching you know 40 45 years and what they say is you know uh we're going to let the next generation of professors deal with this problem we would have to change all of our class notes it it makes us look wrong as professionals to have to go back and and change change the story and I I tell them I said no it actually validates the power of science because it shows that science is so relevant it's made to be updated as new information comes to light it's a living story it's not a static story so for me once I began to understand on a personal level that the mutations that give us are humanist cannot happen in nature of course that begs the question how how did it happen and then I began to look at my artist friends and every one of my artist friends does the same thing when they create something they're proud of the last thing they do is they sign it they put their name on it and I said if we are the product of an intentional act it makes sense that who or what is responsible for us would have left a signature where would we find that and I was asking this question in the ' 80s and the 9s we didn't have the internet uh the internet early 90s we started having the internet didn't have computers like we do now so a lot of what happened was by hand my sense was it would be in the DNA of all life and and you say well how how could a message be written in the sticky gooey stuff inside of a cell because that's the way we're we're taught to think this is a big story and I'm not sure even where where to jump in but let me say this in 2007 Japanese scientists released a report showing that they had stored written information into the DNA of a bacteria and they chose this bacteria because it replicates quickly so they could look at hundreds of generations of bacteria and then take that 100th generation pulled the DNA out and the information was still there they proved that DNA is a very efficient information storage medium that was in 2007 the question I had been asking is did this happen to us a long time ago and the way it took me 20 years of original research to to have the answer that satisfied me it became a book in 2004 called the god code was the name of the book and the bottom line is this if you take the chemical codes that make the DNA in our bodies they're made from elements that you find on the periodic table and every one of those elements has different ways to represent it it's got mathematic representations like veence number and atomic weight and atomic mass those are all different numbers that represent the same element hydrogen for example and I began looking at that periodic table and wondering if that somehow would correlate to the ancient languages that have been left for us that tell us who we are so now shift gears just briefly there are four root or core alphabets that all alphabets are derived from thought to in one way or another they're originally six two of them have been lost the four that remain are Ancient cuniform Ancient Sanskrit uh Arabic still used today and Hebrew that's still used today those are the four root languages one of the great mysteries of linguistics I'm an amateur linguist is that every one of the ancient languages has always had numbers that represent the letters uh and the science of interchanging those numbers is called gatria and I want to just make a distinction this isn't numerology numerology is a loose derivative that doesn't follow the rules of gatria there are 32 rabinal rules that were laid down in the 2 Century uh common era CE ad um they use CE now Common Era rather than before and after the the death of of Jesus 32 orinal rules and for gatria to be viid you've got to follow those rules so I said if the DNA of our bodies holds a language is it possible that the numbers could be the common link that would allow us to go from chemicals to letters in other words is it possible can I read the DNA in my body like I read the letters on the page of a book and the answer is yes took 20 years to figure that out and the information in our DNA is in layers and each layer has a different code the first layer is considered as the introduction just like you would have an introduction into the page of a book so now what we're doing Andre is we're we're think we're putting on an IT hat and rather than looking at biology 101 where you have a cell and in the cell you have a a a chromosome and the chromosomes are made of genes now we're looking at the cell as a library what if the cell is a library and every chromosome is a book and the genes are the paragraphs and the sentences in that book and that's exactly exactly what's happen it's a very different way of thinking and I'm I caught a lot of heat for it in the scientific Community once I started talking about this uh I lost credibility in in some circles and that's okay because it's by crossing the traditional boundaries that have separated our way of knowing in the past that we gain new wisdom that leads us beyond the boxes and so I wanted to go beyond the boxes so what I did by hand initially was I went through and took all the elements in our DNA it's primarily hydrogen nitrogen oxygen carbon this is what we are different amounts hydrogen nitrogen oxygen carbon I looked at all the numbers that represent those made a list about that time uh computers became popular and the human genome was now available on a computer so I could take actually take DNA and and look at it you know what I'm actually dealing with here at the same time I went back into the ancient languages and I look for a number of the elements that would match the numbers of the ancient language so I'm looking at the periodic table correlating it to gatria and there's only one number that works took 20 years to figure it out uh and that is atomic mass the atomic mass of the elements of our DNA correlates to the letters of the ancient alphabets and here's the beautiful thing is the message that it reveals is exactly the same in all four it's the same in Arabic the same in Hebrew the same in cuni form and the same in Sanskrit probably other languages those are the four core languages so when we make that substitution when you use that numeric link and literally into the DNA basis cytosine thiamine guanine adenine when you you go into those bases and you make those substitutions it actually spells out the answer to probably the oldest question that we've ever asked when we say who are we the translation of the first layer in the DNA the introduction of every cell in our body reads exactly the same and it literally this isn't a metaphor it literally reads the words God Eternal within the body God Eternal within the body and the name of God that's written in our DNA is exactly the same as it's written in the oldest spiritual and religious or most ancient and cherished spiritual traditions that name is actually written into the DNA of our bodies so what we can say with absolute certainty is when we forget who we are when we think our differences are so great that separate us through the attempt to isolate us and break the social bonds and we no longer know who we are we need look no further than 50 trillion cells in the human body and the first layer of every every one of those cells that literally says God Eternal within the body doesn't say who God is where God came from and people have said to me the rabbis came down really hard on me and said we've tried to keep this secret what gives you the right to reveal it and I said because I'm not a rabbi and I said if we were ever going to reveal this to ourselves what better time than now' when we're on the verge of destroying the very essence of the humanist that we love and cherish we're on the brink of War this was in the 80s and 90s right at the end of the Cold War Another War we were on the brink of what better time to reveal this than now and why wouldn't we want to tell ourselves that we are God Eternal within the body we're not some random process the result of of a random mutation slow gradual Evolution there's an intentional intervention and a signature to tell us about that intervention that literally says we are God Eternal within the body what does that mean what does it mean to live your life as God Eternal within the body and what I've found is when people discover this I I see this in live audiences I watch people's eyes and I feel I can feel the vibe in the room because now everyone has a challenge in their lives how does God Eternal within the body deal with this disease how does God Eternal within the body deal with the Betrayal of the trust and it's very different than how we're taught to to think of it as mere mortal humans is what somebody said to me once so that message is only possible because 200,000 years ago who or whatever intervened to get give us our humanist left a message to tell us and it's only now when we arguably are on the brink of global war this is the year 2024 in the spring when the technology is being developed so quickly and we're being encouraged to give away our humans and literally replace our bodies with artificial substances and chips and and Ai and Gene therapies only now that that same technology comes full circle and says this is who you are maybe it wouldn't have meant the same thing if we discovered it 50 years ago chromosome number two is the the fusion of two preexisting chromosomes that were in primates here on Earth at that time they weren't humans so 200,000 years ago it appears that the most evolved species on Earth was selected and infused with genetic material from a higher more evolved species that we call gods and we are the product of that we have we have the muscle strength and we have the um the bodies the physicality and the sexuality of the forms of life that here on Earth infused with the DNA and now bear in mind DNA is the antenna so we are attuned to information and a way of knowing and a way of being that's more than what was ever available and cannot be to those other primates because their DNA antenna is different they're they're tuned in to something very very different so we are already we are a hybrid of what our ancestors called human and God or animal and God and the product is human human is this is this hybrid and the you know depending on which text you you want to go to they are you know just full of the stories about how this happened from different you know different perspectives whether you call them the angels from the heavens or the gods from the heavens uh and you know all kinds of stories about that but they're very clear and these These are the books in the 4th Century the book books that were left out of the Christian Canon uh are called Apocrypha and these are the books like The Book of Enoch is for example red wheel Weiser is a publisher that has re-released the Book of Enoch and they asked me to write the forward uh for the the new release and and I did that and the Book of Enoch it's not an easy read um it's not a long book but it is a story from the prophet Enoch uh of exactly what we're talking about of the angels in the heavens uh who came to observe and protect actually were enamored and fell in love with uh with humans and that was the fall that was The Descent that was the fall from Heaven and began to to procreate with them and we we are the product of that so when we look at the big picture of of light and dark good and evil I mean it just goes so deep into all of this but that is playing out I think in our our lives right now I think whether I had the the opportunity in the 1990s before he died I toured with Zachariah siten and he wrote the the Chronicles the Earth Chronicles books and he talked about this extensively and I I want to be really clear I I think he was an amazing scholar I don't agree with all of his interpretation um from the the CI text he believed that we we were created to be a slave species to do the work the mining of elements on this planet that were needed by other another race we may have been enslaved at some point in our past I don't think that's the reason that we're created this is a a very important distinction I don't think that's why we are as we are it may have happened to us by those we may have been slayed by those who have had power over us and there are stories about how that happened and and when that happened but this is a fundamental difference fundamental difference between sitan and I is he thought that's that was the purpose of our existence and I don't see the evidence for that at all I think we are we are so much more than that this a whole deep conversation about why we're created and and who we are and and what this creation really is all about but the the bottom line for me is that we now have the science that tells us uh that we are more than lucky biology yeah and I think that's important and now we know there's literally information coded into the DNA of our bodies you know what the scientific papers are now saying once Japanese scientists proved this 2007 now what they're saying is that DNA is a denser storage medium than flash drive that uh it takes no energy to hold the information once once it's it's imbued into the DNA and as long as one example of that life continues to live that message remains thousands of years millions of years they're now storing the Library of Congress in the United States in the bacteria that is radiation resistant in the event we ever God forbid have a nuclear war and all our information is wiped out if the bacteria survives and if we have one computer that is preserved that can pull it out we can start over again there there is a battle it's an ancient battle some people would frame it as a battle between good and evil or light and dark originally perceived as good and evil ultimately light and dark are are simply energies until we give them the significance that we give to them but there isn't an ancient battle playing out it's not an obsolete battle it's playing out before our very eyes today and it sets the context for every event that is unfolding in our world and so this is a perfect place to begin we all know there's a battle for our thoughts that's obvious if you watch any network news uh we've got commentators trying to tell us what to think and how to think and how to perceive the events in in our lives most people know that there's a battle for our beliefs it's been playing out for a while in mainstream class class rooms mainstream Textbooks For example how did the universe begin is it a conscious and intelligent beginning or is it an inner dead random process that that we're living in how did we begin and we'll talk about this are we the product of random mutations and lucky biology as U as we're led to believe is there's something else going on there those things are important but they're all part of an even deeper battle there is a battle for our very humanness that is unfolding right now and that the humanness is the vehicle that allows an even deeper experience Andre and that experience for any of our viewers that may wonder how relevant this conversation really is there's something deep within each of us that is so powerful so precious so sacred so beautiful that Nations will go to war with other nations to keep us distracted so that we don't know what this power is all about armies will defeat armies pandemics will be Unleashed we will see the collapse of societies we will see the collapse of financial systems all in an effort to keep us distracted from the sacredness of this power within us so I'm I'm going to use a word and then we'll Define it it is the power of human Divinity that is only possible through the biological body and this is one of the reasons there's such a move to replace our biology with synthetics and artificial intelligence so the word is is Divinity it is divine our divine nature now when I use that word in public audiences many people assume it has something to do with religion and I can see why because there are schools for divinity where religion is is taught but if you look at the definition of divinity it it it's a deceptively simple definition and it simply says that dindi is the power within us to transcend perceived limitations and that's it so I can see where religion would be wrapped around that concept the the idea to transcend perceived limitations I'm going to break this down just just a little bit the idea of transcendence it means not just to survive but to become greater than to become more than whatever it is that that life brings to our doorstep the challenge that life brings to our doorstep so our ability to transcend perceived limitations they may not even be real they are the limitations that we have placed upon ourselves through our culture and our society through our textbooks through false science through our culture our uh again our religion but they may not even be real so our Divinity is the ability to become more than the worst challenges that life brings to our our doorstep the reason it is such a powerful force within us is because through our Divinity among the things we transcend is fear Divinity is what empowers us to transcend our own fears if we as individuals and as a society are not kept in fear we are very very difficult to control because without the fear we have the freedom to love create innovate Express these are all features of of divinity I just want to give some examples of of what Divinity is all about because for for some people it's this this esoteric concept everyday Divinity we express it every day in our lives I had the opportunity uh 2016 went to the the Grammy music awards and they held them in New York that year my wife is a voting member in the the Grammys and she invited me and I said yes it's very kind of her it was very kind and um and I took advantage of the opportunity and and I met amazing people there and every opportunity I had I would ask the the musicians and the producers I would say when you wrote this amazing piece of music or when the the words for this song came through can you tell me where did they come from and every one of them Andre everyone to the teeth gave me the same answer everyone said it did not come from me it came through me from somewhere else every one of them said they had to find a way to get out of the way to allow this deep inspiration to come through them that is a familiar facet of of divinity artists say the same thing if you talk to an artist you know who's done an amazing or a sculptor uh or a poet I mean they say the same thing as a writer uh I have had this experience where I don't know what I'm going to write and I sit down and give myself the opportunity of either a blank piece of paper or now it's a a blank computer screen and become very empty so that I can become very full of whatever it is that's going to come through these are are expressions of of divinity Divinity is a part of us our our Divinity is the part of us that's ancient it's Timeless it's ageless uh it is where our our creativity our intuition our imagination comes from and it's what sets us apart from every other form of life and as we get in deeper into the biology of how it works we can only access our Divinity through our bodies through the DNA antenna of our body in the cellular structure of our bodies there is a movement to replace our bodies the transhuman movement to replace our bodies with synthetics with chemicals in the blood sensors Under the Skin computer chips in the brain artificial intelligence and by virtue of doing so it steals from us our ability to access this part of us our Divinity so what we're seeing playing out in the world today whether you're looking at Ukraine and Russia and the role of America or you're looking at the Middle East you're looking at Israel and the Palestinian uh tragedy that is the horrors that are are happening there and you look at everything happening all around that people tend to think these are isolated spontaneous events and people say to me wow you know isn't amazing all these things are happening right now they're happening now because the battle for our Divinity has intensified the second such a degree uh that these are the events that it takes to keep us from that inner Focus now I'm not saying that everyone every politician every leader of every nation certainly is aware of what I'm saying many of them are Pawns in this ancient Battle of Good and Evil of of light and dark they don't even know that they're pwns because they're so wrapped up in the bubble of the level that they are playing this this very dark game with within but when you begin to step back and you look at the big picture uh the evidence supports the story and it's very clear that this this battle is playing out and the interesting thing to me when when you use the term battle it's probably no longer even a good word because in battle it implies conflict I believe that we now are at a point in our lives and our Consciousness where we have the ability and the awareness to transcend this is our Divinity if you don't engage in the battle if you transcend the battle then that is how not win but Triumph we when we talk about winning and losing we're stuck in that old Paradigm we don't want to win or lose we want to Triumph to become more than and the way that we do this is so interesting to me is by living the best version of our lives living the best version of ourselves fully expressing perhaps for the first time in human history what it actually means to be human and Andre what the science is telling us is we don't even know what it means to be fully human because we've never expressed the depth and the breadth of our complete humanness so as we move through this time in history there are some that allow themselves to become engaged in the distractions and the divers and others who are recognizing it's not that we discount what's happening and not that we say it's not important it's all important but there is uh a science there is a skill and there is an art to Rising above living becoming the best version of ourselves and in that way doing just what the definition of divinity says transcend our perceived limitations so I'd like to to say this to set the context every we're seeing in our lives today even the things that so many my friends the social justice things that that are important and they're really wrapped up in uh for example in the United States the pronoun conversation what pronouns are we using the transgender conversation abortion conversation gay rights conversation all these are important but if you look closely at what's happening the races black against white Christian against against Muslim um Jew against Muslim the rich against the poor these are all really important conversations that go right to the gut man they cut right to the core of our most Primal instincts and if we don't know how we are being engaged then we will respond on that Primal level they're important conversations they have been skillfully weaponized to divide us and keep us separate from one another to break the social bonds that have always kept families and communities and societies and Nations together there's an intentional effort to break those bonds and sadly it it appears to be working well to some degree because we're allowing it we're allowing ourselves to be played to be Pawns in this ancient game so the conversations are important and I don't want to diminish the significance of those conversations it's also important to rec recognize that the topics have been weaponized and rather than having conversations in kindness to become closer as brothers and sisters in the global family the differences that we used to celebrate as our strength have now become the differences that are being used being weaponized to divide us uh and keep us in our fear and it is Divinity that allows us to tr transcend that fear so when you think about this all of a sudden it becomes really clear why a dark power would want to keep us in that fear because we become powerless victims in that fear and as victims we need a savior and technology is now being touted as our savior we're being told that we are flawed as humans by virtue of our existence emotion is one of our flaws um the ability to the inability to to make cleared logical decisions without having emotion empathy is considered to be a flaw by transhumanists sickness illness death is considered to be a flaw by transhumanists and we are programming our young people to believe that they are broken and flawed from the time of birth and that they are victims of something beyond their control and if you're a victim you need a savior and the Savior we being told is technology computer chips in the brain artificial intelligence sensors Under the Skin AI that knows us better than we know ourselves and uh when you begin to understand the the big picture and I'm covering a lot of ground here intentionally because we'll tie into this when you begin to understand the big picture all of a sudden the power power of human Divinity becomes something more than a casual academic peripheral conversation it's front and center for everything that's happening in our lives today and the beauty is you don't have to know that but you can simply live the best version of yourself Greg I I've been looking forward to this I you know happy 2024 your wisdom your insights your Brilliance it really is something that I just feel can uplift our world and and humanity and so I'm really I'm grateful for you for your time for being back here and just let's getting into this conversation you know we were talking before I I started to hit record um thank you for being here though first and foremost well Julie thank you for having me back it's the first time you and I have seen one another new year happy 2024 I think we all feel and now we're seeing this is going to be a really extraordinary year in a lot of ways not not necessarily A bad year but I think it's going to be a challenging year because our our belief systems are going to be challenged and we're going to be pushed to the very edge of who we believe we are and what we claim is true in our hearts and we're going to be pushed to reconcile what we believe in our hearts with what the real world shows us and I think to some degree it's probably already happening uh toward the end of last year and then this year and we can we can certainly talk about that so this first time you and I have been together in this program thank you you never really know what I'm going to say so thank you for your trust number one and uh thank you for making a time to share me with your community that means a lot to me it really does and you know this is unscripted Julie we never know precisely where we're going to go I trust you implicitly it's a beautiful Dance I'm going to follow the lady's lead wherever the lady leads us and uh nothing's off the table for me I want to say that so where you lead us I'm I'm really happy to to honor our community by talking about things that are real and relevant uh in our lives we can talk about esoteric things and it's interesting doesn't necessarily maybe have the relevance in our lives so I'm I'm going to trust you to lead us wherever you feel your community and my family is best served thank you so much I feel the same implicit trust and I will say before we even started cuz I know whenever I I have a conversation with you Greg it is um it is mind-blowing and expansive and I I set a little prayer and intention and I just called in you know you've written all about the beautiful Divine Matrix and I just called in my my understanding of this Divine Matrix and I just said please guide this because there is so much happening in the world right now a lot of turbulence a lot of shift we have an election year here in the States you know and and I was thinking I I know from so many listeners that write in about this time also in the midst of a lot of Challenge and dark times that there's this desire you know to to shift our own Consciousness and awaken and tap into our hearts and heart intelligence and I think that might be a good place to start I know it's a huge question I just keeps coming to me is how do we do this in a real way when there are all kinds of you know challenges and atrocities happening and and an interesting year ahead like where do we start and and how do we do this work yeah I that's a good question and I don't think there is any single solution I think there probably many answers uh what I have found in our our community and and like you the end of the year was was tough because of uh of what's happening in the Middle East certainly and in other places what's happening in Ukraine what's happening in our country you and I live in America and our country is not the country that we had at the beginning of the year last year and uh we're all seeing to the degree that we will allow ourselves to see it we're seeing these changes happen one of the things I'm seeing happening Julie it's a psychological term is called normaly bias normaly bias is when we witness or experience things that are so foreign to our belief system to our expectation to our world view that we will not allow ourselves to acknowledge these things are even happening uh I'll give you a classic textbook example I'm not saying this is happening now but if you read about normaly bias in a psychology textbook they will give uh World War II and the Holocaust as an example in Poland there were people that saw their friends and neighbors loved ones family members take a suitcase they were allowed one suitcase and board a train and the story that they told one another to make sense of this is that the people on the train were the lucky ones because they were being relocated to a new city a new life new jobs uh while the war was being prosecuted in in their home they had heard rumors about the camps about owitz and trena and the death camps but their normaly bias would not allow them to Fathom that such large numbers of people could be systematically hted off that way so they never let that enter their mind and in a very real sense it's not on the same magnitude certainly but we're seeing a degree of change in the world and certainly in in our own country and there's a tendency to overlook it normal normaly bias to accept and normalize things in our lives that we would never accept and normalize in a million years in a sane world uh indoctrination of our children in public schools in in certain ways uh Health Care practices you know all kinds of things and and what happens you and I talked about this a little bit before we hit the record button is when you you live in a world and something comes along that is outside of that Norm and in in a typical world you you wouldn't accept it but you do you go along with it because everybody else is or we're being the media says it's it's okay or all of our friends say it's okay and you begin to normalize something in your life that you would never accept in a million years so now what used to be normal for you here is no longer there it's it's over here all right see H you know no big deal life still goes on still got you know job kids are healthy so now something else comes along and you do that again and it takes you from here over to here and from here over to there pretty soon you wake up one morning and you are so far away from the the Norms of what you would want your children to accept and what you'd want to live in your life and you say how did we get here that's kind of what's happening in the world right now not just in America and you said we have an election year this year year I don't know if you're aware of this or not but something is happening on planet Earth that has never happened in the modern world 40 Western nations are having elections this year 40 nations are now up choosing new leaders and there is a tremendous concern among some circles that those leaders are those leaders going to conform with the I ideology moving the world in a direction of centralization and control or are those leaders going to opt for sovereignty and freedom and we don't know the answer to that until those elections happen so it's a big year for the world not just for America what I think is I'm seeing happen and October 7th really brought it to the Forefront Julie and I I don't want to dwell on it it's important and it happens to be the pivotal uh the pivotal moment that for many people brought into Focus something that they didn't want to have in Focus that they didn't want to deal with uh and now they're they're forced to because because these events happened uh and that is how do we respond how do we respond to those things so let me uh we talked off camera a little bit I'm just going to reiterate some of that what I want our viewers to know it's a difficult convers ation I was in London in my hotel room two hours before I went on stage when the news feeds started coming in of of what was happening and especially at the Nova music festival and so I I saw that America was asleep because of the time difference they were I think seven hours behind when I got back to the hotel room that night I started watching the US I don't usually watch TV but I I tuned into the the networks to see what was going on and here's what I saw Julie the the news feeds that America was allowed to share with everyday people was very different from the news feeds originally coming out of the Middle East out of Eastern Europe um out of Asia and the reason I'm saying this is because America has not been allowed to see the truth of what happened on October 7th part of that is politically driven narrative part of that is the social media algorithms will not allow for Community guidelines they won't allow the images the net result is we have a generation of young people who say that the atrocities never happened they're saying if they did happen we would have seen them or if they did happen uh why you know why don't we know about them and so they are now uh not having that information they are making choices in their lives and publicly protesting in ways that don't make a lot of sense it makes sense to them based upon this the skewed and distorted information that they were given and to some degree that's happening to all of us we are all casualties to some degree uh because we are not really being allowed to see we're we're seeing distorted views of what happens in Ukraine of what's happening at the Texas border right now uh of what happen happens socially and all of this is dividing it's breaking the social bonds that have held our families together for Generations that have held our communities together our societies and ultimately our nation so we have become a very divided nation because the social bonds are being broken through through misinformation disinformation uh and a lot of it I believe is intentional because there is an effort to to create a more vulnerable society and and this has deeply spiritual implications but when we are when we don't have those social bonds Julie we we are susceptible and vulnerable to the ideas and the policies of others that want to drive us in a certain direction right now we're being driven toward centralization uh toward control loss of freedoms across the board and a lot of it is coming from you know from the UN a lot of it is coming from other organizations linked to the UN we can do a whole conversation on that everybody knows I'm not saying anything anybody doesn't already know the point is we have to deal with it this is what what's up for us every day in our lives and and what I have found in my community for example uh I'll just take the atrocities in Ukraine and what's happening in Ukraine because the war crimes are happening there as well or the war crimes that are happening in in the Middle East in Israel what it does Julie is it triggers something deep within us and the management of the information triggers very precise reactions Primal instincts are triggered when we see women and children abused and killed instincts are are triggered when we see helpless families in the elderly and we then want to react and what it's h what's happening my friends some of them you have on this program authors that people know they don't know what to do because they are feeling an anger they're feeling a hate they're feeling rage they want revenge in some cases based upon the narratives that they're they're being sh shown so what do we do with that how do we deal with that in in a healthy way where I have found and this this is where it is a really deeply spiritual conversation is it's less about how we respond and more about what we become in the presence of that response do we allow what we see in the media to make us into something that we would never choose to be in a Million years do we allow the narrative that has been carefully honed to trigger us do we allow that to reduce us to this Primal instinctual level where we lash out in hate and anger and revenge and we have to ask ourselves when we feel those reactions which are perfectly normal human reactions they're being engineered when we feel those we have to be honest with ourselves and say is this is this information making me into something that I don't want to be is it making me become because we are not healthy when we go through our day carrying the hate and the anger and the the feeling for the need for Revenge so when we find ourselves in those reactions we have to ask are we reacting from the love of what we know is possible and true in our lives or or are we reacting from the hate or the fear of what that information is triggering within us and the answer to that question then takes us to the next steps in terms of of what we what we need to do if if we find ourselves being triggered in fear where does that fear come from how could something Halfway Around the World inight fear inside of us in our homes what is it lighting up what fear in our lives has never been resolved what trauma has never been resolved and and I'm not saying it's it's good bad right or wrong this is where we are right now in our our world because there's so many events and so many atrocities that are happening uh when we respond are we going to respond in in a healthy way so now there are are some people I've had you know there's the argument about the war the Inner Warrior you know do you fight or do you turn the other cheek and for me I think it's less about what we do again and and more about what we what we become if we choose to fight whatever that means if it's a kinetic fight or if it's a social media fight if it's a verbal confrontation whatever it is does that come from the love of those behind us our family and our loved ones or does it come from the the hate of those that we perceive to be our our enemies do we fight from the love of what we know is possible or from the fear of what happens if we don't there's a lot of narratives out there about about fear inciting fear in people uh that what you're seeing happening over there can happen right here so it's I it's an important conversation it's difficult because there are so many other narratives and so much baggage that come with it but on on the ultimate deeply I I'll ask your permission do I have your permission to go to the ultimate deeply spiritual level are you okay with that oh I'm I'm like waiting for it so I I think all all of this all of this although it is current in our lives now is actually part of something very ancient and very Primal that has been with us from the very beginning it's a battle between good and evil not from a religious sense but we live in a polarity world and in a polarity World both of those must be present the question is what do we identify with and what do we do we choose to to dominate our world and you're seeing that battle play out in media and entertainment and politics you're seeing it play out uh kinetically in in what happened at that Nova music festival and Beyond you're seeing it happen with what's happening in Ukraine a lot of people don't know this us has boots on the ground we're in involved in Wars 22 Wars on the planet right now most of them you never hear about most of them you never hear a word about uh and all of them are are carrying the same message these events Ukraine and and what's happened in the Middle East happen to be lighting it up for us front and center and uh and we have to choose we have to make a stand do we identify with the evil or do we identify with the good and what do we allow what do we normalize in our lives and accept into our society and again I it's a question we have to answer together it can't be done for us but it's difficult when the events are weaponized to divide us rather than Ed to bring us together in kindness so that we can work together to create a better world that's a possibility but that's not what's happening right now and and there's more of us than there is of they we haven't even talked about who the they are but there's there's more of us we get to choose and and I think it's really important now Julie because I I think we you're you have a very sophisticated audience and that's why I really enjoy coming on with your audience because we don't have to start at Ground Zero every time we can assume certain things are are known and accepted one of those is I think we can all agree and assume that there's a new world emerging that's not quite here yet and the old world that we grew up with it's still there but it's buckling and collapsing because it's unsustainable in its its present form so that new world's not here yet because we're still building it I don't know everyone in your community or in this podcast but I bet I know this about everyone I would imagine anyone watching this does not want to carry the hurt from the world that we've known into that new world is the found Foundation of that new world for our children we don't want to carry the suffering that we've known in the 19th and the 20th centuries and the holocausts and the atrocities humans against humans we don't want to carry that into the new world and it's up for us to heal right now if we respond with hate and anger doesn't mean we don't fight but do we fight from hate and revenge or do we fight from the love of what we know is possible and Our Lives what we want for our children that becomes that Keystone or the Cornerstone or the foundation of that new world how do we and I don't mean this in a PO a way but like how do we dive into that responding from love knowing this is what's going on creating that new world and also being aware that we're being fed a lot of fear and a lot of um you know as you said meant to be vulnerable and maybe I'll start there well I think again I don't think there's a single answer uh or a single solution I think there are many answers however people are feeling drawn to respond is that's their their choice I think it where the the spirituality comes is being conscious of what drives that response am I responding because I'm afraid of the world if I don't or what will happen to me if I don't or I'll just be very honest when October 7th happened I looked to our spiritual community and it was you could hear a pin drop in the room because our spiritual leaders were absent in mass and I've called some of them and I've talked to them and said where are you guys your community needs you to help them navigate What's Happening Here some of them have found that their teachings are shallow teachings they're not bad and they're not wrong they are just shallow their good time spirituality and it's easy to be a spiritual person when the world looks Rosy and rainbows when something crosses your path if your spiritual practice does not serve you you have to you have to ask why is that and what can I do to embrace a deeper spirituality and some some I know people that are struggling because their teachings are not serving their community in the face of what we're seeing happening in the world it's a it's a hard conversation Julie it's very honest it's a very honest conversation some of the spiritual teachers said they just can't see it they said I can't watch this it's too hard uh I talked to somebody that says I'm just going to go to the beach and do my yoga I can't deal with it and and we all feel like that sometimes we have we have to take a break but we're blessed to have a beach to go to to do our spiritual practice and some of our brothers and sisters are just trying to make it through the day and there are a lot of people in our community that are afraid to say anything because they're going to lose clicks on YouTube they're going to have people unsubscribe uh they're going to be they know they're going to catch flak and they they don't want that flak so they're they're just not saying anything and all of those are choices I'm not saying the right wrong good or bad what I'm I'm saying is we're a family and we're going through something and we need one another and we need one another's guidance and teachings and experience and there isn't a single answer I think there are many many possibilities because we all learn differently so I I think what's really important for me and it's it's what my test because I'm right there with you and I'm I'm right there with our our Comm Community when I hear something or I see something and somebody tells me or it's on a video somebody sends me or you know something like that when I feel that Primal gut response that makes me want to lash out you know I have to to ask myself where's that coming from number one and we all have an inner warrior and it's there for reason I don't think it's just about complacency I don't think it's just about turning the other cheek we have to act sometimes when we fail to act early on when the signs of in this case evil are apparent and we normalize that evil then it becomes greater and greater and greater until the point where we have to act we all saw this in World War II if if we had not acted as allies in the west and we' allowed Hitler to continue his Conquest we would live in a very different world today so we we had to act so again it's it's not that we need to not act but the on a spiritual level where does that what's compelling us to act we'll get through this and there will be a time you and I have this conversation all of this is in the rearview mirror it's all already happened the question is what Have We Become what kind of people have we become when this when this is over and we have the opportunity now to become conscious and ask that question consciously aware of uh of of what we're doing and I I know people that are reduced to the most Primal instinctive levels of pure revenge and hate and they're allowing the hate to consume them so hate has a chemical a chemical consequence it kicks up the stress hormones in the body high levels of cortisol levels of adrenaline that lasts day after day after day not just for a short period of time it becomes the filter the lens through which they see all the events in life and all the events in the world and they begin to lump categories of people together and that hate begins to Define other other categories of people that have nothing to do with what's happening in the Middle East I'm seeing that happen right now and this is a spiritual exercise do we allow ourselves to come to that or can we draw a line and say we will not tolerate this level of evil because we love our world we love our children we love our future and we love ourselves enough to draw the line and say this cannot be tolerated what does it take now what does it take to to follow up to to make it clear that that evil cannot exist so I don't know if any of that makes any sense it's up for me as well uh you know for a lot of reasons I was supposed to be leading a group in Israel in November this happened October 7th and of course I knew that we wouldn't be there in November but all of our guides our Palestinian guides they text me they're afraid they think everybody's mad at them and people don't like them and they're they they want to take them off the face of the Earth and my my Israeli friends they don't know they said we don't know what where this is going to go we don't know what to do this isn't us this isn't what we want yet it's happening and and there's a lot of people in the world that that want something more than this so uh I I think we are all being I I don't think it's a test I think it's an opportunity to demonstrate our Mastery in the world of what we choose and what we claim to be true in our Hearts people go around all the time you know talking about how loving and spiritual and you know everything else they are and and and they probably are now the world has brought to our doorstep an opportunity to demonstrate the Mastery of what we've claim to be true how do we Implement that how do I come from Love and and and do something that's going to actually create a new world that honors our family and and and love and good well now that that goes to the to the deeper question this fundamental battle between good and evil people often think of a battle in terms of winning and losing and if you think of a battle on that level you're part of the problem because the I the idea of winning and losing is what keeps us stuck in the ancient trap of that polarity rather than winning we have the opportunity to Triumph to transcend that means to become more more than the battle itself how do you do that if the battle between good and evil is to prevent us from celebrating our humanness and and ultimately that's what the battle is all about then we we Triumph by doing just that celebrating and living the Deep truth of what it means to be human every day of Our Lives by living the best version of ourselves by loving without fear of the consequences of that love sharing without fear our imagination our creativity the joy that we know is possible from the things that we envision and bring to fruition and create in this life it can be art it can be music it can be Community it can be growing a garden it can be creating uh uh peace in the community because there are forces out there that are pushing for just the the opposite forces out there right now politically that are pushing us centralized Community rather than um localized Community they want centralized everything centralized banking they want centralized they're pushing they're they're discouraging rural living because they don't want people to be self-sufficient they want people in what are called 15minute cities and there are some model cities that have been built in Saudi Arabia right now they're some of the first places in the middle of the desert and they're not places that I would want to live in where everyone lives the same and Innovation and creativity is discouraged uh everyone is dependent upon a centralized Authority for food for water for their their existence that flies in the face of human nature of human sovereignty of human freedom and this is where these ideas there's a there's a fine line between the ideas themselves and the spiritual implementation and then the politics come in Julie because they're creating the policies and the laws that determine how we live our lives or or how limited and and how how much our lives are limited so if you look closely you don't even have to look at everyone just look at the principles that are being proposed right now do they Foster Freedom sovereignty and creativity or do they Foster control uh contraction and a homogenization everything being the same and the answer to that question for you or whoever's asking the question will tell you where those policies are going they're and they're being driven largely by people that we never elected to represent us unelected people and organiz ations un is part of that not the whole un there are good people and good good uh good policies in the UN but there's a a part of the UN that is not like the UN used to be United Nations and they're they are full steam ahead or what are called the sustainable development goals 17 goals they want to meet in six years by the year 2030 the only way the goals are beautiful Julie if you go to the website and you read the goals at face value who wouldn't want those goals like in poverty uh uh in disease in the world I mean who who doesn't want that now you read the fine print how will they accomplish those goals it is horrendous it's not the world I want to live in it sounds like a world out of 1984 a world where everything is digitized everything is controlled people are digitized uh we lose the opportunity for self-expression creativity imagination uh compromise a lot of our our sovereignty to accomplish those goals and it's a it's a a lot of people don't even know that it's happening to us and a lot of people don't even know that these things are out there so this is an example of where deeply spiritual principles are being challenged by policies that determine how we live our lives and how we how our children live their lives and our ability to share and instill within our children values that we cherish but those values don't fit into this this Vision so when we live the best version of ourselves what we're doing is what B Buckminster Fuller said so beautifully before he he passed in the early 1980s he said you're never going to change the world by fighting against the things you don't like he said you want a new world world he said find a new way that makes the old way obsolete people will follow the new way and the old way will collapse the new way is to live the best version of ourselves the Deep truth of what it means to be human and to celebrate that because that's the very those are the qualities that are being challenged and some people want to defeat those qualities they don't like this is another conversation that on What's called the transhuman movement trans means beyond the movement to replace our biology with technology that steals from us our humanness and and there's a place for transhumanism and in our lives there beautiful beautiful technology that's being developed for example this is in the news today so we can talk about this there is FDA has approved a computer chip to be placed into the human brain that allows us to communicate with our computer with no cables you can communicate with your keyboard no cables young people say man that's sweet I can do my games with no cables I can do the games with with my mind what's wrong with that the flip side and whether we're talking about computer chips in the brain chemicals in the blood replacing our immune system sensors Under the Skin replacing our senses is that the way the human body is made J is is that our uniqueness our abilities begin to atrophy when they're not used when neurons are replaced with computer chips when an immune system is replaced with chemicals when uh senses are replaced or or logic is replaced with AI then our cells because there's no demand for them to be used our body begins to say oh well maybe you don't need this function in anymore and so it begins to atrophy in one generation Next Generation which is just a baby away next Generation says oh that's something we used to do but we don't need that anymore and pretty soon the things those abilities that we took for granted we've lost and this is how you lose a species it's exactly how you lose a species you know Ray KW is an amazing Visionary author uh he's an engineer he's a very good engineer he is a director at Google Technologies uh working with a lot of of the AI and what he says is that by the year 2035 which is within most of our lifetimes he said all of us will be a hybrid species we will all have technology implanted in some way to some degree whether it's an RFID chip in your hand like they're doing in Norway or it's a computer chip in the brain or it's chemicals in the blood we will all be a hybrid species I personally think that that's wrong and I personally believe that we need to tell our young people that there is something so rare and ancient and beautiful and precious and sacred about the human body that it's worth preserving we don't even know fully what it means to be human because we're still exploring the New Frontiers of Neuroscience for example we are on the precipice of giving our humanness away before we even know what we're giving away and that's all part of this movement uh for Conformity so that we can meet those those goals those 2030 development goals so so how do you I don't like to use the word fight how do you counter that you counter that by celebrating your humanness by by having children they are telling us now that that the act of conceiving a child is obsolete they're saying because nobody knows what that child is going to be you're taking a chance why not do it in the laboratory where you can engineer the hair color the eye color the IQ fast twitch muscles for athletic performance and uh and so this is one of the levels where they are actually in Indina ating young people into believing that this is this is something that technology triumphs over human intimacy all this is up for us right now so it's not about making somebody wrong and I I would never want to do that it's about an awareness of the pressures to conform to a way of thinking that steals from us those things that we cherish the most and that's humanness and and life itself and the way you counter that is to live your your best life you live whatever that means to the it's different for everybody but but celebrate our humanness our creativity our imagination don't take those things for granted learn new things create new things imagine new things uh and bring them into the world fearlessly because you love what the potential is and don't be intimidated by A system that is is now telling us that we shouldn't be doing those things how do you honor the sacred the sacredness of your of you of each of us the the creativity the unique gifts the the fact that there's going to be no other expression of you or me or anyone listening ever again as yourself putting past lives aside no way you're going to be this person ever again ever again and I I really resonate with your message well so so we're all seeing this the world is changing faster than we could documented in the textbooks or in the classroom we we are not conditioned to accept uh the degree of change that we're being asked we could do it we can adapt if we know how but we've never been taught how to do this and rather than than looking and talking about each one you know good bad right or wrong you know whatever it is look at the big picture and ask yourself the question are the policies that I'm being asked to embrace or the law laws that I'm being asked to support or the narrative that is coming to me and my family and my kids does it support Freedom sovereignty creativity imagination or does it Foster centralized power control uh and a loss of freedom and contraction of my spirituality and when you hold every conversation to that bar doesn't mean you have to act on it but it gives you a good Insight it's a tool gives you an insight to know where the push is what we're being driven to and and we have a choice we can choose and I I think that we as a species are worth preserving I think that our freedoms and our society I'm going to make a distinction and it's a whole conversation we could have about America I believe that the idea of America is rare and precious and sacred and when you understand the history of where how the country was founded the thinking where that thinking came from America was given something that no other nation has ever been given and if we lose it no other Nation will ever give its people the freedoms that we're given and I've had this conversation with young people Canada Australia you know Europe they say what's the big deal about America we we can do everything you guys can do and the answer is yes you can until you cannot because your government can take those things from you what sets America apart is our Founders said by virtue of us being alive breathing and walking this Earth there are qualities that come with that that are imbued by virtue of our existence the government didn't give them to us and that means the government can never take them away free speech is one of those the right to defend ourselves is another one and there's a whole list of them so the idea of America I think is worth preserving the implementation as we see it today is broken it is deeply flawed and many people cannot make the distinction between those two they want to throw the baby out with the bath water and start over and I'll I'll tell you if we ever relinquish those freedoms if we ever do that no Nation will ever give to its people the freedoms that we have been given because you cannot control a population with those freedoms so I think the idea of America is worth preserving recognizing the flaws the Deep flaws and and the Deep broken nature of how those freedoms have been abused but it's not the freedoms it's the way they were implemented yeah and and I think that is up for all of us right now and they're it they're very difficult conversations very difficult decisions so you need to have a yard stick by which you gauge all of those and for me this is where I come down on this I could like it's not about personalities I can like the personality of the people wonderfully listen to their words do they Foster sovereignty Freedom imagination creativity do they allow my soul to soar and sing and me be the best version of myself to celebrate my humanness or are they Contracting taking those away uh centralizing uh power and control that benefits them it doesn't benefit me and and then that tells us what what we need to know was this something predicted earlier on are there texts you would recommend or you say go to to like I found that with the daa Ching but where can we find some of this uh Direction and spiritual sustenance um for those seeking wow that's a big question uh and I I think I think there are many many answers because everyone learns differently depends on what level you choose to engage in in the systems that uh that our lives require us to be a part of what on What level do you choose to engage the Deep spirituality almost every indigenous tradition tells us that there is a a fundamental they call it a battle between good and evil playing out where the the evil doesn't always show up the way you would expect it to show up it can show up as uh as the stealing of sovereignty and freedom or the desire to remake our young kids our young people for example are being told in schools today that we are flawed by virtue of our existence that the human form is flawed in its nature that among our flaws emotion that clouds our logic is a flaw but that technology can remove that emotion so our decisions are are better we're being told that love is a flaw because of the the passion people will kill in the name of love and they're saying that's that's a flaw we're being told that the biological conception of of babies what we talked about earlier is is a human flaw because it's so imprecise we have technology to fix that so our young people are being taught that they are flawed in their nature that all human life is flawed and that we are we need something outside of ourselves to compete in business and to be successful in life and that something is technology so young people that come to our programs and they are good people they believe that they are flawed as beings and they worship Julie they worship AI they worship the computer so let me just say something to our our community about this because as a scientist I'm fascinated by this I I mean I grew up in high-tech I I were in the 1980s I was working Star Wars defense SDI the most advanced computer systems laser systems communication systems radar systems and I have yet to see any technology built outside of our bodies that doesn't mimic what we already do inside of our bodies in some way including blockchain technology that is the basis for all the crypto that young kids are looking at that blockchain technology mimics the way that DNA stores information transparent immutable uh uh longlasting it I mean it's going to be there it's permanent so blockchain technology actually mirrors that so the reason I'm I'm saying this is because our our young people are being taught they need something outside of of their bodies are computers fast yes absolutely are they efficient you bet they can do lots of calculations very efficiently but here's a thing that people miss a computer chip is limited in its function by the physics of the stuff it's made of so if it's if it's a silica based computer chip it information will never be able to move between one atom of silica and another any faster than the physics of silica allow and it tops out that is is an upper limit and and it maxes out can't go any further than there what is the the limit of a human neuron or what is the limit of a human cell and the answer is we don't know because every time we push a neuron to what we think is the limit the accepted limit of the past we adapt and now we exceed that limit to become something else perfect example used to be when scientists studied brain States 40 40 Hertz 40 cycles per second used to be the top I have textbooks that show the the frequency of human human brain 40 Hertz maxed out they said the human brain can never never process any faster than 40 cycles per second then the Tibetan Monks came along and they said well if we do a certain kind of meditation you know we can exceed that and and they then pushed from 40 they doubled that they went to to 80 cycles per second scientist said okay well we were wrong but the human brain could never never uh process faster than than 80 cycles per second they had to have new brain States they they went from uh they had to create the gamma brain State then they had to create the the hyper gamma brain State because then they went to 80 cycles per per second then they went to 100 cycles per second and then the scientist said well we never we'll never exceed that the monks and the nuns they said well you know if we do this certain meditation they went to 200 cycles per second but not only that on the other end they had to create a new they had to create the the Lambda brain State on the upper end they had to create the Epsilon brain State on the lower end because they were able to slow the brain down to less than one cycle per second 0.1 Hertz where many people would think that you're no longer alive but they're very alive in that brain State and it what it does for me it makes me wonder how many people have registered a low brain State and doctors gave up on them when in fact it could be could be I'm not saying in all cases because there are other extenuating factors but it could be uh a deeply healing brain state where where the activity is lowered to such a degree that the brain goes into a mode in other words the energy is not going to the brain the brain's sending the energy the rest of the Body for healing so it it's like in standby mode if you want to think or or when the computer goes to sleep you close your Mac and it goes to sleep preserving conserving energy it's using for something else so the point of this is we don't know what the top end of human performance is because every time we think we reach it we adapt and exceed that and you can't do that with technology so we're only beginning to understand what it means to be human and I think we owe it to ourselves to embrace our humanness before we give it away to technology because once it's gone it's gone forever and and so all of this is part of the same conversation there's a vision to move the world in a a certain direction but you and I were never asked our community was never asked the only way to accomplish those goals is with a level of social engineering that betrays our truest nature our sovereignty our freedom imagination creativity so now the effort to reduce those things and indoctrinate young people they don't think independently anymore they have to use machines to do simple math if you go to a if you go to a Walgreens for example drugstore and the the electricity the computers are down they don't know how to make change unless they've got that computer there to tell them how to do that they've lost that ability uh and all of it comes back to the way that we think of ourselves and see ourselves and even if you're not into all the other stuff we're talking about you say that's crazy stuff the bottom line is that we are given the opportunity now to to live the Deep truth of what it means to be human the best version of ourselves and to celebrate that jewelry Julie just to celebrate All imagination creativity Innovation Freedom sovereignty to celebrate those and by doing that what we're doing is it's actually a countermeasure against the movement but you don't have to even know that all you have to do is just live the best version of yourself with love and I I think that's important for all of us to know that quick question just as you were talking about the idea of Good and Evil I I've you know a lot of what's covered here we talk about ego versus coming from heart and it might be I'm thinking for those sometimes I I can actually hear questions that are coming up to me there's something about this that also has that aspect in it too like are you gonna maybe you can share about that I I probably see personally because I've asked myself the same question I think that the ego is the part of us that can be co-opted by evil forces but the ego is not EV evil in of itself I know there are a lot of people that demonize e the ego when I think of evil evil is anti-life and when we see atrocities that humans create assuming that they are humans have created against other humans and it happens in war frequently it's it's an aspect of war the only way that one human can do the things to another human that we know have been done whether we're talking about you know World War II and the Holocaust or we're talking about Vietnam that was happening there we're talking about Ukraine or we're talking about Israel is to dehumanize the other person to stop seeing them as as a human life and that is evil the evil is is anti-life anything that stifles or steals uh life from a living being stifles the the freedoms and the creativities that is how evil expresses itself in in our lives and deception is a big part of this it's very easy to be deceived on the surface uh by forces and individuals that succumb to those forces because they say one thing uh or they are attractive or they have a good personality but then you look at what they do and how they do it you talk to the people that that live with them day and out day in and day out maybe their staff that sees them when they're challenged and how they respond to what life brings their doorstep and it is very revealing in terms of uh and we see this happen all the time because they're not living what they speak and I think evil plays out in a lot of ways but we are as a scientist what I can say is there are many systems that tell us we are living the close of a cycle a great cycle of time that cycle is a geologic cycle it's a cosmological cycle there are cosmological events that are triggering events on our planet there are magnetic field Cycles there are climate Cycles there are cycles of human conflict there our financial and economic Cycles all of them are converging right now so I am not surprised to see that evil and forces of evil would rear their ugly heads in a last attempt [Music] to to accomplish as much as they choose to accomplish before the end of the cycle accomplish as much evil steal human divinity Divinity we haven't talked about Divinity is if you look at the definition of divinity it it s it surprises a lot of people it simply is is our ability to transcend perceived limitations that's the definition of div Divinity to transcend not just survive but to become more than perceived they may not even be real but are perceived limitations so Divinity is what we've talked about just didn't give it that name it's the best version of of ourselves when we transcend our perceived limitations we are living our true humanness all right and the goal of evil has always been to steal that Divinity from us so that we don't live our the full potential of our humanness that we don't express our love our creativity our imagination our Innovation so I am not surprised that as we close this cycle and by definition the end of one cycle is the beginning of what comes next as we birth a new cycle that we would see the polarity of evil uh making a last gasp a last stance to to accomplish that goal to steal as much Divinity as possible that's not scientific and as a scientist I will say when I deviate from the science I just deviated from the science it is my sense from spending time with indigenous cultures all over the world this is the 42nd year I've done this work now one form or another uh spent a lot of time with among and the nuns in Tibet and the sadus in Nepal uh the kados that we see in the Yucatan and the shamans and Peru and all through the desert Southwest in the Dead Sea Scrolls they actually identify our time in history as a time of a battle between the sons of darkness and the sons of Light and it was actually it was the first of the Dead Sea Scrolls that was discovered was the war it's called the war scroll and it's a a relatively complete scroll uh all kinds of prophecies Edgar Casey talked about this no adamus talked about this uh this time in history Dolores Cannon has talked about this time in history cryon talks about this time in history depending on you know where you want to go so there a lot of indications that this is no ordinary time in the history and that's why I'm not surprised that we would see evil uh surface in the way it does and and I think we have to draw a line and say we don't tolerate this in our society now how we counter that I'm not saying fight but how it's countered we have to determine as a society because we share this world but if we accept and normalize and brushed under the carpet and and discount what we see happening then we've deviated and we now accept that in our society and and now the next time evil rears its its ugly head then it's doesn't seem so foreign because we've already accepted this degree of it in our lives that's a whole conversation maybe Greg and Julie part part five or something I I don't know it's it's a deeply spiritual conversation and and it triggers a lot of people and I know that because there are so many pre- determined values that this conversation pushes back on encounters directly and and I I fully Embrace that and would never try to convince or persuade anyone of anything if you're looking for a reason of why it looks like the world is coming apart at the seams it's not spontaneous there is a drive to push us into a way of living into a world uh that has been defined publicly it's not a secret go read the great reset and you will see precisely what that world looks like and it's not a world that appeals to me or that I would want the children of of this generation to ever have to experience it looks like a science fiction world and yet it's a world that's being implemented if we don't know what it is that's happening it's being implemented as as we speak so um so we have to claim the values that we cherish as a foundation to know how to act and then Implement those values with love rather than hate and fear and I think that's that's our blueprint right there I just think gosh what's going through my head is what a time to choose to Incarnate for all of us I've thought about that a lot like wow you really you really picked a really profound time to be here and I was also as I was looking at the word evil I'm reminded I'm sure you've seen this that the backward spelling is live and part of what I'm hearing the message is you the way to to come at this is to live out loud to live fully Express to live in your creativity in your freedom in your sovereignty cons consciously with with kindness to to live with a deep awareness of how your choices influence and affect other people when you speak what is the intent of the words you're about to share are they to empower another person or are they to make you right in an argument are they to show your superiority or are they to uh to foster a deeper appreciation for life in another person I mean those are the kinds of things that are expressions of of life and love and humanness just the opposite now is happening through technology people fire off the words with no no face behind them on a Twitter or on on a text that have deeply hurtful consequences and sometimes to the point where people will take their lives kids will take their lives based on the opinions that other kids have shared without ever having a face present they're just words on the text and uh and we we know that so I think kindness is a is a big part of an empathy for what this means to another person yeah [Music]