They go everywhere on horseback, they have their own education system, they don't have electricity in their homes and in fact you will never see them watching TV or using a smartphone. How is it possible? How is it possible that Amish keep those beliefs and above all, why? Where do they come from? How did they get there?
A few months ago I went to Lancaster, Pennsylvania, to meet a family of Amish. It was a mother and a father Amish. You will hear that there are four voices, that's why one is mine.
The other is the mother Amish, the other is the Amish man and the other is... Well, I got all this because you know that they don't give interviews and I got this because I found the blog of a man... who worked on the Amish and getting to know them better made a whole blog explaining how they were actually because there's a lot of disinformation on the internet that you'll see in this interview, I ask them about things and they say that you know, that I know this is going to make you laugh I had recorded this nicely in Lancaster but now, watching the clips, I thought I can't publish this because in all of them there's...
Of course, since they are farms, the Amish have many farms, they hear animals, or an animal comes out there doing something weird. Good morning from an Amish farm. I'm going to explain how I got here.
The first question you all probably have is where did the Amish come from? I mean... By the way, I have said voices because the Amish have forbidden to show their faces.
On YouTube there are some videos in English, like two or three, that will be talking, showing their faces, but I think they are people who have thrown them out, or because they are from different communities, If each community is ruled by a different band, like a priest who tells them what they can do and what they can't, maybe that's what they let them show their face, but it's very strange. This interview is actually only the voice, because for them, the Amish believe that if you show your face, then it will differentiate you from the group and... You can develop vanity, you can think you're more handsome than everyone else, more important, more famous, whatever.
In fact, they had allowed to take pictures when the camera and all this came out and over time they removed them. They no longer have allowed to take pictures, which is a bit... sad because they say that in them envy could be unleashed and become vain if you want to be more handsome and such, then let's start I think it is very important to start with because there are the and I know how we have come this far not in the sixteenth century as you already know there was a great revolt in Europe because people started to doubt the Catholic Church they said there are things that make me sick, this is known as the Protestant Reformation and at that same time in Switzerland the Mennonites appear the Mennonites were not convinced by the Catholic Church either and they decide to separate because they said that it would not make any sense for us to baptize babies when they have neither a vow nor a vote that if technology, that if the church, that it should not be opulent and they decide to separate inside the Mennonites Jacob Amanns says says there are things about the little ones that I don't like at all, for example, I think we should have even less technology, we should use it less, we should live a simpler life and I also think that if someone leaves my group, not that he would create that they would be the others if someone leaves the others we have to stop talking and then that's how you create the others, so now I leave you with the interview with two more things that you have to know because of course as it is only audio if it is not a bass so that you can imagine this is a couple that the boy knew the thing is that he was present I was talking to families all day long, but the others didn't let me do an interview.
I tried, I tried all possible ways. They took me to a man who made belts, they gave me a belt for my father, they took me to meet a woman who made blankets, so I recorded the work they did and I asked them questions, but I couldn't get any information as important as that. And these, somehow, I think that he told me, these will talk to you, because they were a bit rebellious.
For example, you will see that the woman at some point says she doesn't agree with something. The boy Well, you'll see, you'll see. So, what you have to know is that I entered and it was like a normal house, but very old, like from 1800s, you know?
Like an old kitchen with fires and such. They are starting to use sunlight. This is something that impressed me. It gave me the feeling that they were very... The skin is the skin, you know?
Not technology, but they have all solar panels. So it was night, but they had lights of those that had been charged with the sun during the day. I'm happy for them, huh?
They were very handsome. I don't know why, but whenever I've seen the Amish on TV, well, the ones I met there too, this is ugly, I don't know, but I think you had the same info I had when I arrived. They were all a bit... a bit ugly. It's terrible, isn't it?
Well, it doesn't matter, guys, we're friends. But they arrived and I was like, wow, I was impressed. They were like, wow, they're both very handsome.
She much more. And they received me in their dining room, they had an old-fashioned fireplace, you know, like that, closed. Nothing, I was...
in her kitchen and at first, which I think is completely normal, you have to know that they only study until elementary school, then a person arrives who does not look like you at all and suddenly has the camera but tells you that he is not recording you, that calm and leaves two microphones on the table, it is not like and suddenly he questions your life, that is, it is strange and then I think that in the middle of the interview they saw that I'm not bad at asking bad questions. I didn't ask them about condoms, you know? Because I knew that if I asked them that, they wouldn't answer me anymore.
So, halfway through the interview, I think they started to let me go. It's Pennsylvania, Lancaster, and the whole area is like a town, because it was a beautiful town. And then the guy who writes the blog came to pick me up in his car and took me...
Maybe we were in the car for half an hour. or 45 minutes and he told me that this is like a mish zone so all the houses you see the black suits there are tanned the bikes that they let them use bicycles but they are a little different the cemetery that the cemetery is also made so that everything is the same two more things to finish and that's it, if not, they will not understand anything of the interview one is that you will see that they are all the time saying because the English, the English the English are us I mean For them, anyone who is not Amish is English. Then the other thing is that I want to make it clear that this interview is about people who are inside of...
...of a sect, in the end. So I don't want it to seem like I'm blabbering about the sect. I know they're going to tell me the best things because they're part of it. But I don't agree with them, they don't let them study.
I went to this belt store and there were little children working and I thought, poor kids. But I was very kind to them because they opened the doors of their house, they were great with me. In the end, they don't stop being victims of all this too. So, yeah, that.
And then, lastly, you do me an incredible favor if you leave feedback in the video. A comment, a like or something like that. Because, well, I don't know, I think you do like me, right? I put videos and never leave comments. And YouTube, that, I mean, the more comments, the more people will be taught.
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I leave you with the interview, I hope you like it a lot and a little kiss. I had a doubt. A podcast by Judith Tiral. The first question maybe is, what do you do for a living? I work in the stove manufacturing, they're behind us.
It's a stove shop that I work in five days a week. The stove that heats the house, here it goes, wood or coal. A typical day is, I leave at six in the morning.
and then we'll work till 4. So we have a driver that comes through and picks us fellas up and that's all the business pays for that and then we at 4 o'clock she'll come back through again to do the route with the office. When you say driver you mean like a normal car? Like a taxi driver.
An English person who goes around and picks up the old workers at home and takes them to work. You can't have your own car but you can... We can't have our own cars.
We depend on horse and buggy but we have taxi drivers. When we're a horse or... They only take you out about 22 miles.
That's about as far as you want to travel with horse and buggy one way. Now if you go out 10 miles and you find someone, house to sleep in or friends or something that have you for the night and then let the horse rest overnight and then you can go further. You can get out in good ways like that but then you gotta keep in consideration, you know, we have to come back.
So we don't have days after day after day. It's not like we would do that unless we have a trip planned. If we're going out 20 miles, we can go out 20 miles. and 20 miles back again. But if it's further than that, what we'll do is we just have the taxi driver come out and pick us up.
Take us to the destination. How long is your list of taxi drivers? Oh, I don't know. There's a whole bunch and, what would you say? The phone book that we have, there's probably 30. There's about eight to 10 that we, our main drivers.
I'd say we have at least 20 different ones that we can try when we want to go somewhere. If it's last minute, we'd need to go pretty far down the list. If we have Christmas dinner, of course, we're gonna get a driver two weeks ahead of time because we know it ahead of time Then we'll try to we'll reach out to one of the taxi drivers and put him on schedule for that week But when you reach out to the taxi driver, do you have phones? No. Yes We have phones.
We have line phones Ah, okay, okay, but not like smartphones. We don't have the smart phones There is some of our people that have them but they wouldn't be a brother with the church yet Like Kent was talking about the room spring out What is the room spring out? I had no idea about this and I was really crazy when they explained it to me.
RuneSpringa is basically that at 16 years old all children and Amish girls have a season in which they can do whatever they want. We see on MTV that all the Amish are drunk because they are doing the Runespringa The Runespringa doesn't have an end date, but usually it's at around the 20s Or less, I understand that when you're in a circle so closed and controlled And they tell you, come on, you can go, right? Suddenly You don't have light in your house but now go to New York.
Well, it's still a nightmare. Especially when you're such a little boy, right? A little girl. So I understand that people say, yes, I had a great time, mom.
But there are Amish who give it all, of course. And then they say, well, I've seen the outside world. Do I want to be Amish or not? I don't want to be Amish. And that's when they decide if they come back and get baptized or if they don't, they stay out.
But as far as the Rumspringa side of it, they wouldn't be considered a brother with the church. Basically what I told her is it varies from year to year, but anywhere from 85 to 95% of the kids who go through Rumspringa decide. join the church the other ones go live english and they would be the ones with the smart votes how long does it last that is no set time there's no set age on that we start at the age of 16 when we branch out into the youth groups there is probably a hundred different youth groups and then we can uh whenever we make the decision it's your own personal choice i was 24. that's a lot more than a year 24 from 16 to 24. i was in room spring of 16 and 24. i didn't make the choice to be baptized with the church till i was 24. some do at the age of 18 some do at the age of 20 some do at the age of 24 some do at the age of 16. and some there's no set age it's personal choice i don't know if it's okay to ask but you didn't feel like the pressure of people like you are too long?
No, no because that's the way we're raised. That's what we're in, that's what we know and me and all my friends would have done the same thing. There was ten of us so they all decided to do the same thing.
Now there are some of those that aren't with the English church anymore they decided they want to go live in the English world and that's again that comes back to personal choice. They told me that when some of the Amish decided to go to the English, Amish people stopped talking to them. Is that true?
No. Some people, and the word shun, you know, the church will excommunicate them. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
There's a difference between never joined the church and joined the church and left. Right. And you're talking about joined the church and left. And you should make sure she understands that if some families, if you don't join the church, you decide to go English, you're still part of the family.
But if you join the church and then leave, that's when they shun. But in some families, you join the church and leave, family's family. Okay. And that's the choice that we would have made with my brother.
differently in different families and again that's personal kind of personal choice. I feel now the church has their rules and regulations so if you like Ken said if you decide to be a brother in the church and you join the church my brother he decided to join the church they got married and then seven or eight years after they were married he decided it's not what he wanted so then they with the family decided to leave the church went to another church but at that point When I'm saying a brother with the church, that's when the church will talk it out. We have our rules and regulations, and our rules and regulations are no car, no TV, no latest technology.
And continue to be a baptized member of the church. Yeah. And then he wanted more of that. So then the church told him, well, then this consists of not being a member in the church, in the Old Order English Church. If that makes any sense.
In your case, he's your brother. Yeah, that's right. He's still my brother. You keep in contact. But the biggest percent would still talk to them.
Yeah. There's a very small percent that, you know, just totally doesn't talk to them. We made the choice to keep communication as a brother, right?
Like Ken said. I made the choice and he's still going to be my brother. For people like Church or your Amish friends, is that okay?
They respect that or they are like, hmm? They just leave it. Yeah, they do respect it. Ah, okay, cool. That would be a good way to work that.
They respect our choice and then they have choices that I might not be. Whether we're English or whatever church we're with or whatever sect we are, I would say that we're all, whether we're from, where are you from? Spain. Whether we're from Lancaster, I think it's, the human body is still made to sing. In those years that you can be like English and have technology and cars you can travel to with planes and stuff travel yeah and but you took the plane yeah one time we took the plane i didn't know that one time i'm surprised one time one time what are you really thanks and then one time we drove that one time there was three or four of us four of us that drove that when i went down with the plane i went out of the way then we flew ...to Little Falls, Montana.
Your parents prepare you for that? Or your first time when you like go out to the world is like, wow. It's not exactly that way because we're still, we communicate with the English folks. Yeah, I didn't know that.
So we know them, we know what they do. We go to restaurants to eat so we see how they, like we would go to... How they behave. When I go to a restaurant, I'm not gonna just sit back in the corner like I'm the Amish fella, you know, I'm gonna...
I respect them and then I expect them to respect me. You know, people look at us like we do our own thing and we're... were separate from the from the world that's that's not how it is and i didn't once i usually get quite often get the question you know how did you make that choice it never once went through my mind in that area from 16 to 24 that i wouldn't be on there and that i wouldn't on the amish wife and an amish family so you always knew that you would come back and i like i said i i never gave it a thought that i'm gonna not live at home with my parents and not date knowledge i was always with the youth where there was omission and while he drove the car he could still attend the amish church and live with his family where a lot of people believe that you can't live with the family and you can be in the same house and yeah oh wow then you have that very small percent that won't accept that you know they'll tell the children if this is the choice you want to make there's the door we would appreciate if you wouldn't live it i usually say that's a small percent just like we were talking about brother to brother in the church when you decide to leave there's a small percent that doesn't really want to have much communication with each other. So let me ask you, how did your parents feel about you hanging around with this rebellious Amish kid? It's a youth group I choose to go, so they couldn't say anything.
But how did... How did your parents feel about you hanging out with this guy who drove a car? I guess I never asked them. But I knew they were okay with it. You know, I choose to go to that youth group.
They knew that if I, if a guy asked me, I'm going to be okay. I'm gonna, and I like him, I'm gonna say yep. And they're not gonna say, you know, you can't date this guy. But there is, that is common in today's society where it's a little more directing their girls away from dating this one guy.
It's not happening much, but it is starting to come. Is it good or is it bad? I hope I don't ever have to do that.
I always respect the parents that they left the children. There was an age and there was a timeframe where they, you know. You gotta make your own choice. Can I ask you why Amish people don't use technology? Yes.
We don't live a fast-paced life, but once we live a fast-paced life with all the technology, we'd probably be where everybody else is at. We probably wouldn't live the lifestyle we do if we'd have all the technology. I know I wouldn't be content with it.
I gotta remind myself again. and again to just be content with what I have and slow down. And we hear quite often that we have something.
And, you know, the tourists are telling us that, and we're like, we're living in it every day, and we tend to take it for granted. What more? Yeah, we tend to take it for granted.
That's exactly what we do. After you gave up technology, after those years, do you miss it? Do you miss, you know, like driving a car or not anymore? I didn't miss it, no. Oh, okay.
Just I said to her at dinner time, we were... we wanna go out and do some shopping tomorrow because today's Black Friday. And that's why I took off, kind of why I took off today.
I figured I'll take the day off and get my, get a few things after that. And Susie wants me to come with her shopping tomorrow. So we're just gonna go as a family.
And I said to her at lunchtime, boy, I should have a car for tomorrow. And we could do everything in one day. Where we go with the horse and buggy, why is that gonna happen in one day?
You wouldn't do it all in one day. You'd do more in one day. And you'd never get it all done.
Is that how, it would just be another-I said- do that a day less you keep adding to it yeah I gotta agree with that but she's not biting for it so I guess we will try to call but no I don't I wouldn't I would not want to step away from the way the family's being raised right now well good thing that you should you should include in your thought process only Amish can marry oh oh I have a poster about that. If imagine that English me okay me English I come and I say oh I love how the Amish live no I wish I was an Amish I can join the Amish or not. If you want to abide the rules you can join you can become a member in the church. Ah yes oh wow.
People have joined from the outside world you gotta learn Pennsylvania Dutch it's not a written language you gotta learn high German. To be able to participate in church service. New Euclid, greater and swester, we might dole time of commas in Dimashstone.
Then you gotta learn all the customs that their children are still learning to become. No TV, no electricity, no phone, or cell phone. What else is it? No computer. Drive a horse and buggy down the road.
Dress like everybody else instead of dressing your own way. I would say from where you're from, Spain, it would be knowing. a whole lot about the Amish life, I think it would be quite a dive that you would be taking to come in.
Right, Susie? I would think so if you wouldn't know anything about it. Not that I'm talking bad about Spain people, I'm just saying not knowing anything about how the Amish culture is.
Like not interacting with the Amish and you would want to all of a sudden become Amish, it would be a lot harder I would think. Yeah, so the Pennsylvania Dutch I think would be the hardest. When we sit in our churches, Our church services are in German and when we sing songs we don't have the guitar, everything else is better. The church songs that we sing are in an Alpenbuch which is about that thick and it's in high, everything's in high German. And it's been in print since the 1500s.
Right. And it's virtually the same as when it was originally put. So that would be one that you would have to, you know?
Maybe I stay in Barcelona. To realize what you're, you know, to get something out of it, you'd want us to make music. And why can't you use instruments?
It probably, there again, it probably wouldn't stop. You know, if I had a campfire and I'd get my guitar out, why? Then soon it would just go to the next. Soon it would be music.
Soon we were on the radio. Yeah. I guess that's the best that I know how to explain it. I usually don't quite understand why we don't do instruments because the Bible talks about instruments. I'm not sure why we don't.
Because your parents before you didn't, and their parents before them didn't. And it would just lead all down, all through. But would there be, because people would want to start being singers and things like that, then they'd want to dance to it maybe?
Probably. Right, right. That could be. It would, that's the best that I know how to explain this is it would just lead on to the next. More things.
Yeah, just lead to more things. For the Amish, I think what you are looking for is that everybody is equal, no? And nobody is more than the other person, right? We don't get too many tourists who recognize that on their own. That's right.
We don't get too many. tours that recognize that it's all kinds of other questions that kind of you're thinking that is that is that is exactly right and if i don't know if this is too much to ask but if you want to be equal like i came here and i thought you are super beautiful is it bad if i say that to you and then i think and then i thought should i tell her or this is bad because she has to be the same you know what i mean yeah no that's not a big deal and you know being the same there's still some people that are dressed Like they'll still be kind of styles in the Amish world Uh-huh, and some people follow the styles and some people don't right now the style is really long dresses So my girls are like, you know, I want a long dress. I'm like, you know what my aunt told me She said if you stay the same all the time, you'll be in style sometime and that's about what happens You know the style change, you know how styles change Yeah, and that so the Amish still have some styles they'll follow but it'll be in the Amish way and Sometimes mothers will say if you want it then you make it Yeah.
Or you, yeah, you're going to buy it. Would you, you would have styles in Spain too. You have some people that they prefer to have this and always be going with the latest style.
And then you have people that are wealthy, if I may say so, and some that aren't so wealthy. Or is it more equal? No, no, no. You have everything. You have everything.
OK. Because we would definitely have that in the other world, you know. We have, we have some that are less.
Dairy farmers don't make as much, don't make as much money per hour. so they're not going to be as wealthy as the ones that have big businesses. I know this is wrong because I'm seeing you, but they think Amish people remove their teeth. What do they say we do?
They think you remove the teeth. Remove the teeth. That it's a lie, no? I mean, of course we remove the teeth if they get old and you can't use them anymore.
But everybody thinks that. I don't know why. When I had my taxi business, I took an awful lot of teenagers to orthodontists to have braces installed.
We don't have Medicare, but we have, we want a hospital. We'll call the emergency, ambulance, English doctors. There's no English hospital that I know of yet, that I know of today, and no English doctors. Because they haven't had a great education. We'll interact with the hospital if need be.
And we're allowed to fly on an emergency as well. Otherwise, we're not allowed to fly. If you get the bishop's permission, if it's an emergency and you need to have surgery someplace, then you get the bishop's permission to fly. Okay. We didn't know that.
Not common, no. And then you share the money in the church? No? No. Oh, okay.
That's one thing we don't do. Oh, okay. Like I told you, they're the best capitalists you'll ever meet. Yeah, you told me that.
But we do have like, we have alms in the church that, you know, if somebody has a hospital bill or somebody has... then they'll ask the church if they can have some of the arms or the church will ask them if they need help with you know if they need some of the old money to help them through the whatever misfortune they had and me and susie have the this is a personal choice again if we want to have hospital aid or not we pay monthly in right like you guys do on medicare insurance for insurance for like like a health insurance right like you guys would do just it's under our people it's just it's not like we're paying the company and that company taking care of it. We have a elder fella in the church district that collects in every church district there is one elder, one of the elder men that is set to take care of that and then he'll take all the collections from every month that we pay and we send to him and then he'll send it in to the to the five-man board. The attempt is that at the end of the year the balance is zero, no profit.
profit right they they try to keep the numbers up so that they can pay when we go to the hospital then most times there won't be much negotiating going on with the hospital the hospital tells us what they have a pretty significant deduction that they give us and tell us here's our cost and then the reason they do that is they know that within a couple days they're going to have cash they get about a 40 discount on their health care because they pay cash oh my insidio wow within what like i said once the total is given to us our member that is set is supposed to be taking care of that district he makes sure that they get their check within a couple days and the medical people like that because they don't have to deal with insurance companies and Medicare. And it makes sense. But I didn't think about it. You don't use banks? Yeah, we use banks.
When he says cash, it can be a check. Can I ask who, imagine it's somebody in the church, who says this technology is okay, this technology no. Is somebody in the church that says like, this light is okay, but another light not okay? The bishops take care of that.
And what I'm talking about here to Wisconsin, you know, a wide range of bishops will get together and then they'll talk about things that may have to be put in that are, you know, like those lights for one, for instance. Those came a long ways in five years. Solar panels on the house roof, you didn't. Yeah, that's crazy.
Probably 10 years ago you've seen very little bit of that. I don't know an Amish family that doesn't have solar panels. Right. And when things change, Amish people... Are like okay with that?
Like everybody is happy? Or some of them like grandmas are like, ah, I prefer the old way, you know? Yeah, there is some that will say they prefer the old way. But they can do that, they can make the choice to do that.
Just because it got left in doesn't say that they have to do it. You see that sometimes with power mowers versus... the real mower right in the same church district bishop says okay you can have a power mower but some people still do the push mower some people still do the push mower and i always think of the corn chopper when that question comes up but power is better to explain we use a power mower susie never never pushed a mower i would have as a little boy now we had one in this district but she didn't live in this church district she's 10 miles from here Amish people?
so I was thinking when we were talking about church do you celebrate like Christmas and everything like English the same way? we don't have a Christmas tree but we use our pur... hutch like a christmas tree the one in the back there and i'll set the packages on the top instead of under a tree and you give presents and ah cool see they have two christmases december 25th is a religious holiday and second christmas is december 26th the day after the gift exchange and all that my my two last questions one is you can go to university or is forbidden oh you're asking about the school yes the learning yeah we only go to grade eight If we want to hire education, why, we know what it's going to take. It's not going to be Amish. But you can read whatever you want, no?
Like if you want to do not the official university career, you can rent the books and read them and learn, no? Well, there are a lot of Amish-owned solar companies, and they've done the technical training to be able to do solar energy support. So the last question, if you could see yourself when you were a kid, what would you say to yourself?
that's a tough one oh there's a lot of things i would do the only thing i can think of which i tried to remind myself often was when the children were smaller you know because i had we had four children and the oldest was almost five and to me it was like you know that was a challenge with all these small children so i tried to tell myself you know enjoy each stage of life no matter what it is because you're gonna look back and re if you didn't enjoy each stage. That's about the only thing I can think. And I still try to do that, even though sometimes it can be a little hard.
I'm not gonna, I always said, I'm not gonna stand there and tell my son that you can't do this and you can't do that. You gotta learn on his own. So...
Thank you so much. Really, thank you. It has been super interesting for me. And I guess it's not, you know, somebody sitting down in your kitchen asking you questions.
Do you want to go to university? But thank you so much. You have been super nice to me.
I do have a question for you though. Did you come over to the States just to do this interview? Right now, yes. Really?
So you're going back again tomorrow? No, after this I stay like a couple of days in New York because my best friend is working. She's from Barcelona. She's an actress, but she's working in New York for the winter.
So I'm going with her to see some musicals because I love musicals. I don't know. That's great.
Yeah. What other interview would you do outside of interviewing the others? You want to see interviews? So people would pay you to see your interview?
No, people don't pay. It's free because what I want to do is I like free content for everybody so everybody can learn without having money because my family is really poor so a lot of brands came and say we give you a lot of money to do this and I say no because I want to do it for free But you need something to keep you going you need money to fly over Yeah, but I put advertisement you know so it's whatever for everybody she gets advertisers when she does her podcast and they i don't have internet i don't know why it's not working because you're in an amish house internet i'm sorry i wanted to show you but i interviews all kind of people that i find interesting because i do you interview murderers in prison and and things like no not like that uh but i i interviewed one guy that used to work uh stealing banks You know, with the... he was underground?
He used the bike road. In Spain, yes. Or a nun... Oh, this woman? Well, you can't see, but it's an old woman.
She used to be in... you know Holocaust? Yeah, the Jews exterminated by Hitler.
Ah, okay. Holocaust. She's 100 years old and she survived. And I went to Germany to interview her.
She's amazing. I'm sure. So far today's interview. I'm sorry it's not very long, but Ken had to meet his wife for dinner. It was already...
because we went to have lunch. And she said, wait, I'll introduce you to another friend. I thought, what an interview. But I had left with his wife to have dinner and then I was talking with the girl and she said, come on, let's go.
And she took me, that all this was free. I was going to say, well, Kent, no. So I wish I had.
There were also many questions. I cut this out. But there were many questions that I asked and Kent, well, and he turned around and I was thinking, Kent, let me talk to them. But I guess he'll be a good friend of them because he protects them and they feel good with him. So, I hope you liked the interview.
And I love you all and see you next Sunday. A kiss, bye. Thank you. time you tell me