Summary
- This session was an in-depth interview with Trader Kane, covering his decade-long trading journey, strategies for using prop firm capital, risk management, psychological discipline, and the distinctions between profitable, break-even, and unprofitable traders.
- Key topics discussed included his evolution as a trader, managing risk across different account types, the impact of psychology on performance, and best practices for journaling and emotional control.
- No specific business decisions or action items were assigned during the conversation, as this was an educational and personal interview rather than a business meeting.
Action Items
(No action items were mentioned in this meeting.)
Trading Journey and Experience
- Trader Kane entered trading around a decade ago, initially influenced by unrealistic marketing and scams.
- His serious trading began in 2015-2016, fluctuated over the years, with a focus on crypto during 2020-2021, including substantial losses during the FTX collapse.
- He pivoted back to Forex and futures trading, using prop firms to regain capital and now holds a record payout at JCAP.
Approach to Prop Firms and Personal Capital
- Prefers trading personal funds as the ultimate goal but sees prop firms as valuable for gaining initial capital and experience due to accessible funding opportunities.
- Prop firm strategies are focused on accumulating small, consistent gains and managing multiple accounts conservatively, with aggressive risk-taking only to escape trailing drawdowns.
- Emphasizes the importance of not "shooting for the moon" too early and recommends taking incremental steps to build up capital.
Trading Strategy and Risk Management
- Prop trading uses a systematic, scaling risk approach: increase risk after wins, decrease after losses, with risk ranging from 0.25% to 2% of capital.
- Personal account trading allows for more aggressive sizing and risk-taking, using the concept of "house money" after initial funds are withdrawn.
- Manages positions actively, often aiming for "base hits" rather than holding out for large wins, and rarely takes partial profits except in exceptional market conditions.
- Avoids rangebound markets as his strategy is unprofitable there and prefers expansive, volatile markets with clear retracement/expansion cycles.
Trade Journaling and Review
- Journals only losing or emotionally-driven trades now, having done comprehensive journaling earlier in his career to build consistency and understand his edge.
- Believes early-stage traders should journal everything to accelerate the learning curve.
Psychological Discipline and Emotional Management
- Stresses the importance of accepting losses, seeing trading as probabilistic, and having a rule-based system for stepping away during emotional or losing streaks.
- Attributes long-term success to discipline, experience, and being able to control emotional impulses, including revenge trading and overtrading.
- Recognizes ego as both a motivator and a potential pitfall, working to contain negative impulses and maintain perspective.
- Advocates for focusing on long-term performance (the "marathon") rather than chasing quick wins or succumbing to "internet millionaire" hype.
Differences Between Break-Even and Profitable Traders
- Sees break-even trading as a positive milestone; the key difference between break-even and profitable traders is rule adherence and continued refinement.
- Transition from unprofitable to break-even typically involves eliminating emotional trading and following a structured process.
- Profitable trading builds on this by optimizing entries, sizing, and timing based on market conditions and refined intuition.
Decisions
- (No formal business decisions were made in this session.)
Open Questions / Follow-Ups
- (No open questions or follow-up actions arose from this interview.)