Exploring Justice in Plato's Republic

Sep 16, 2024

Reflection on Political Metaphor from Plato's Republic (Book 2)

Speaker

  • Dr. Anadale
  • Philosophy professor at Mount Saint Mary's University, Emmitsburg, Maryland

Key Themes

  • Purpose: To understand justice in the soul, study justice in the ideal city.
  • Comparison: City structures reflect the soul's characteristics and justice.

The Simple City

  • Described by Socrates as a simple, healthy city.
  • Characteristics:
    • Simple homes and furniture
    • Basic diet: berries, acorns, basic bread
    • No high culture or complex social institutions
    • Compared to a community of "communist vegetarian hippies"
  • Critique by Glaucon:
    • Lacks cultural richness, deemed a city "fit for pigs"
    • Humans need more: culture, manners, civilization

The Luxurious City

  • Described as feverish, in contrast to the simple city's health.
  • Characteristics:
    • Meets higher wants beyond physical needs
    • Larger, more complex, with social classes
    • Relies on institutionalized violence for:
      • Conquest and resource acquisition
      • Defense from invaders and robbers
      • Policing a diverse population
    • Requires a social class specialized in force
  • Justice and Injustice:
    • Present in the luxurious city
    • Guardians must be educated and trained in virtue to manage violence

Application to the Human Soul

  • Parallel between city dynamics and human soul's development.
  • Human Ambition:
    • Goes beyond basic needs, aiming for higher aspirations
  • Violence and the Soul:
    • Potentially destructive force if not managed
    • Need for early training in self-control
  • Self-Control:
    • Central to managing violent ambitions
    • Essential for a happy life

Discussion Questions

  • What distinguishes human selves from animals and threatens us without virtue?
  • Is this tendency a violent instinct or connected to self-consciousness or desire for recognition?

Conclusion

  • Reflection ends with an invitation for discussion.
  • Encouragement to consider the alignment between political insights and the human soul.
  • Thank you for watching.