[Music] hi Shannon Waller here and welcome to inside strategic coach with Dan Sullivan Dan you said something the other day as you often do that I was really intrigued by because it sounds not contradictory but I wasn't quite sure what you meant so I love taking this opportunity to take advantage you said at the heart of boredom is the terror of taking the next step and I'm very intrigued by that because I don't think a boredom and Terror in the same sentence usually so what does that mean I'm super curious well our minds you know are constantly looking for bigger and better and this is anybody but I deal with entrepreneurs and I think that entrepreneurs have taken advantage of their mind's ability to visualize bigger and better next steps there's two aspects to Jumping to a level which at the present you don't have any capabilities and one of them is the excitement of visualizing what it's going to be like when you have achieved the jump to the bigger and better results and then there's also the fear of your present state that you don't even have the capabilities and it's going to require courage you know so in our four C's formula we say that all growth comes from first of all being committed to Improvement and then lacking the capability that that going to take you go through a period of Courage while you learn and you change yourself you transform yourself so that you're capable and then when you're capable then you get a reward and your confidence jumps okay and then from a higher level of confidence you can do the formula over again you can have a commitment to an even higher goal and what I've noticed happens to people when their mind engages emotionally that they have to take the next step but they don't do it in other words that's going to require courage and they don't have the courage their mind then makes everything that they're presently doing not interesting and therefore their world because they're avoiding a decision to jump to the next level and they're not being courageous their mind rewards them negatively it actually punishes them by making everything that they're presently doing no longer interesting to them and they say I'm bored wow that is so interesting and so true yes it's like you're restless but you haven't yet committed or been willing to go through the courage to go the next step bam oh I love that so is this a normal human experience stand does everyone it's true for everybody yeah yeah okay it's true for everybody yeah and therefore see the whole thing is our mind makes emotional commitments to a future result before we have the intelligence to do it you know we don't have the knowledge you know we don't know the how and everything that's going to take to get to there but not only that because we lack the knowledge we also lack the skills because skills always follow knowledge so the first step is lacking capability you have to substitute courage okay and that means that you move forward in spite of the fact that you don't have the knowledge and you don't have the skill and that's scary it's very very scary very scary yeah so people who are courageous actually can retain the excitement of the vision they can retain the emotional excitement yeah this is going to be really scary and I don't really know what I'm doing here but I'm so emotionally attracted to this jump that I'll use that as fuel I'll use the excitement of the possibility as fuel to get me through the period of Courage because that's going to be really scary it's going to be energy draining and everything and I think it's actually there's a magic trick that goes on here that the combination of commitment plus courage actually equals capability it's like a mathematical formula so commitment plus courage equals capability yeah I think it's times courage I think it's a multiplier so I think it's commitment times courage equals the new capability okay and I think the new capability comes that you're willing to give up your present level of knowledge and you're willing to give up your present level of capability to acquire greater knowledge and greater capability and I think something magic happens in multiplying commitment and courage the you multiply them and the two of them is kind of like Alchemy you know there's something magical about it well and the image that's coming to mind is grabbing hold of a trape jumping off hanging on and then letting go of the trape like there's two acts of courage there one is jumping off the platform the other is Letting Go being willing to do your fancy sum Sals in the air you grab the next one Babs and I just started working with Dr David hassi at um very specialized in Nashville Tennessee and we're going there for improvement you know and he's got a lot of great new technologies and great new medical approaches where we'll be able to see substantial Improvement so what I did is I created a certainty uncertainty worksheet and I sent it to him and it was that two years from now I'm going to be off all prescription drugs for ADD and for sleep okay right now I'm relying on them you know and I'm add so I take Aderall and I've got a long-term Aderall I take in the morning and then depending on my need during the day I've got short burst of Aderall and Aderall restores order to my erratic mind and it served me well and I've been doing it for about 11 years and the other thing is that I tend still be wound up at bedtime probably from taking my Aderall and therefore I take two sleep medicines I take Lunesta and I take Sonata depending on my need but I have to start off just to go to sleep I have to take it and I said you know two years from now I want to find some alternative way of handling my ADD and handling my inability to go to sleep and stay asleep so I sent send it off to him and right off the bat he came back and there's a clinic I'm going to go to in North York and they teach neuro feedback so he signed me up for 40 sessions and by the end of the 40 sessions which will take a half a year he said you won't need the adal and you won't need the sleep medicine oh wow so exciting to be off the medicine and really scared to be without the medicine right so I'm in the period of Courage right now M thank you for sharing that first of all yeah so there's Health commitments we want to make there can be relationship ones we want to make there can be career ones projects I'm just doing some thinking about an event that I'm doing with a client and it feels like I'm between the two PES a little bit so all of those things but it's that commitment and just staying really strong to the vision Dan I like what you said about that because that helps counter the terror as we talked about the beginning and it means that you will find your way through through that's the magic part and it's that confidence and trust that you will because of just applying yourself because the interesting thing about fear is it can be really useful well it's adrenal in both ways yeah makes you very alert fear triggers adrenaline and excitement triggers adrenaline and I've learned to supply myself with a formula that does it but he pointed out that because of my genetic makeup that there would be a tendency let's say if I stayed with this in each case sleep medicine probably 15 years and ader all about 10 years that I have right now preconditions for Alzheimer's and I have preconditions for Parkinson's okay and he said you're not anywhere near those but he said if there was no change in your prescriptions over the next 10 years you would start possibly exhibiting that's not allow Dan just saying that's not in my future game plans okay no we need your brain yeah so I just felt that to get the best out of our work with David hassi that I should make a commitment to a change that scares me you know and that would prove that I'm a serious customer but if I didn't do this knowing what I did like if I don't go through with this and I say I it's 40 trips it's probably a 3-hour roundt trip yeah and we got fitt it into a very busy schedule but I've committed to it and he doesn't make any money on this this is a separate or he just said this is the best way and he said if you do it and you go through the 40 sessions they're about 40 minutes each there's every bit of Research indicates that in both cases you will not need the drugs you're taking oh I'm excited to learn more about that as you go through it and I think what you said ALS Al is incredibly useful is that you can't just engage with something but not fully commit and to some extent you'll know when you're committed when you are feeling that slight sense of fear well and having engaged emotionally and intellectually with the project if I don't follow through on the project everything around me will get boring right we do not want Dan to be bored no I've always said this Dan a bored entrepreneur is a very dangerous creature well they're boring for one thing they're boring they make messes they set fires so that they can become they go negative they go negative they're grumpy they're horrible to work with they're not good communicators all the things so anyway just to take it back to the boredom and so my sense is that bored people are people who have in some part of themselves made an emotional commitment to change things but they have given into the fear of what it's going to mean and they're paralyzed by their fear and that changes they lose all appreciation for everything they're doing in the moment so nothing is interesting to them which is another way saying that they're bored interesting and Dan just as we wrap up how can people take action on this how can they shift from that boredom back into that state of Courage what would you recommend well make a commitment to a change and then household Define the solution I like yeah and you have to go outside of yourself in other words you need other people's guidance you need other people's capabilities and knowledge and you need other people's Solutions in order to do this so I couldn't do it by going cold turkey right yeah so go back to your original emotional commitment and then get very resourceful another key entrepreneurial word to be able to go outside yourself I think that's another great clue is people can get stuck inside with their own lack of capability and forget that there's a whole world out there of incredibly talented motivated people who would love nothing more to help you with your particular situation so not getting isolated is another key part of this I think yeah yeah to a certain extent the problem that originally triggered the need for prescription drugs in the case of both sleep and the add is I was trying to handle it all myself and I couldn't so I've got a crutch a chemical crutch that allows me to go along but I wasn't really using other people's plus there's a lot of brand new stuff happening in the world right now so I've made this as a lifetime extender project so you know I've communicated this to you know a lot of people in the lifetime extender program oh and I can't wait to learn more since so many entrepreneurs are ADHD dopamine deficients so this will be and can't sleep at night and can't sleep at night and have a lot going on so I love it well Dan this is a great conversation and again a whole different approach to boredom that I've ever heard before so I love your insights and I think they're spot on it's time to time to engage the courage and develop the capabilities thank you thank you