[Music] Before we give the opportunity to the Minister for Empowerment of State Apparatus and Bureaucratic Reform and the Deputy Ministers who are present on this occasion, allow me on behalf of the leadership and all members of Commission 2 of the DPR RI as well as all of us who are present on this occasion today to congratulate you and Sir who has been given the trust and duty of President Prabowo Subianto to lead a very strategic issue for this nation and state, namely managing the State Apparatus as well as bringing about reform of our bureaucracy Give applause to the Minister and Deputy Mi, we know that the Ministry of Pan RB Lan BKN Anri and The ombudsmen of the Republic of Indonesia as a working partner of Commission 2 of the DPR RI has a very vital role in reforming the bureaucracy of personnel management, increasing the competence of ASN, managing national archives and monitoring public services in our beloved Republic. Therefore, discussing a number of agendas and strategic issues with Commission 2 of the DPR RI RI today and this is also our first working meeting in the 2024-2029 period. Hopefully this is part of our efforts to present various solutions to the problems I mentioned earlier for our beloved nation and country. These solutions are increasingly important because of the commission 2 The DPRI wants to hear what the plans for the 100 day program of the RB ministry and other institutions are after the inauguration of the president and vice president on October 20 2024. We know that the president in our constitutional system is not only the head of government but also the head of state because that is the policy- The President's policy is guidance for all of us in working for Commission 2 of the Indonesian House of Representatives which is given the constitutional task of supervising budgeting and legislation. We are committed in this period to partnering with all of you ladies and gentlemen to present the best solutions and quickly take examples for example in the days ahead of the Ministry of Pan RB is the Ministry that is most eagerly awaited by all ministers and heads of institutions or bodies that have just been appointed by the president, especially ministries that are separated from previous ministries or new ministries or ministries whose nomenclature has been added so that the addition of the nomenclature has consequences for the addition of the bureaucratic structure and that's all. there is no time for us to delay because all ministers have work targets that must be supported by the entire bureaucracy, the commitment of the leadership and all members of commission 2 of the DPR RI are ready whenever needed in accordance with our authority so that we can present policies quickly, of course in accordance with Existing legislative procedures , for example, if there is a draft law that needs to be presented in order to fill this need, we will open up space for us to discuss it immediately. We also hope that the Minister, Deputy Minister and all heads of other institutions, will be able to adapt. This fast way of working, we hope that there will be Fast Track regulation at the level of all of you so that then we can support President Prabowo Subianto's policies fully in accordance with our respective authorities to shorten the time. We invite Sister Mi to use state regulations and bureaucratic reform first to conveyed his explanation regarding the 100 day program plan of the Ministry of Administrative and Bureaucratic Reform, preceded by an introduction, just the lady who introduced Mr. Deputy Minister and all echelon 1 echelon 2 officials, sorry, no need to introduce, just send the notes to us later and the members can all share their WA numbers and main duties so that It's easy in correspondence, I invite the good minister Bismillahirrahmanirrahim asalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh Waalaikumsalam Shalom Om Swastiastu namo buddhaya greetings of goodness and prosperity to all of us. Allow me to convey the chairman's rhyme. This has become a habit. Before I introduce myself, I welcome you to the subdistrict head's house. I am happy to be warmly welcomed. I hope all ladies and gentlemen are healthy, always enthusiastic about serving the community, sit back and relax watching dramas while eating pomegranates Pan RB and DPR working together for the sake of our beloved society which I respect e of course the chairman and deputy chairman of commission 2, members of commission 2 DPR RI PLT head Lan PLT head PKM PLT Andri then also the chairman of the ombudsmen and jaran ee as well as all the attendees Of course I want to thank you first of all to all ee members of Commission 2 because today it turns out that I am the first Minister to be summoned by e commission du commission and this makes ee We are proud of the attention of the ladies and gentlemen of commission 2 ee because ee there is a lot of it because there is a lot of homework that ee we will do Well eh ladies and gentlemen eh I would like to introduce first eh my name eh Rini widiantini maybe there are ladies and gentlemen who have been in the commission for a long time, they know me, before this I was the secretary of the Ministry of Administrative and Bureaucratic Reform who was actually a partner of ladies and gentlemen in ee issues related to pan RB and the community then ee Thank God and this ee now I am also trusted by EE Mr President to ee help him ee as Minister of Pan RB and I also continue to be assisted by the ee team which is currently all present sir chairman so ee I ee I follow Mr Anas's previous habit of always asking us to come in full if we have to have a dialogue with eh the du commission because there are many issues being raised So perhaps if you may have permission to stand up sir I would like to introduce first our Deputy Minister Mr Dr Please stand up Sir then eh Deputy for bureaucratic reform and accountability , Prof. is Mr. Abah Subagja, he is the PLT ehputi in the field of human resources, EE, EE also doubles as an expert staff in the field of politics and law, the last one we transferred from BKN, sir, so you have just been appointed, how come, not yet 1 month, Mr. OT, yes, so Mr. Dr. Oto Kuswandaru, who Serves as Deputy for Public Services, so Mr. Oto is actually a Minister of Administrative and Political Affairs as well. So we are appealing again, Sir, to Mempan to help us, ladies and gentlemen, as an introduction, of course. I would like to convey several things related to the area that is the main focus of our reform. because the Minister of Administrative and Bureaucratic Reform is indeed given the task of carrying out affairs in the field of empowering the state apparatus and bureaucratic reform with the function of formulating synchronized coordination policies. Monitoring and analysis and evaluation for reporting is the scope of the Ministry of Administrative and Bureaucratic Reform from the Ministry level to the community, so in fact the Ministry of Administrative and Bureaucratic Reform is a stakeholder. Those are the ASNs, yes, but those ASNs will be the ones who will be the spearhead in service to the community, ladies and gentlemen, perhaps I would like to say a few things about the programs that will indeed be the focus of the Ministry of Administrative and Bureaucratic Reform. Of course, we will continue to implement several programs that has been announced in the rpjmn, namely about ee thematic bureaucratic reform ee still remains ee Mas t focuses on ee poverty alleviation then increasing investment and processing of hisization resources as well as accelerating the president's priorities and this Of course ee is ee thematic bureaucratic reform which is focused on how to improve welfare the people as directed by Mr. President, well, because we have already asked about the 100 day program, perhaps, ladies and gentlemen, and we have prepared quite a complete presentation that has been prepared, but because of the time, maybe we won't, won't ee It will take too long to convey, but ee We would like to convey that the budget before 100 days will be submitted, perhaps on slide 36, eh, we will inform you ladies and gentlemen that ee, currently the Ministry of Administrative and Bureaucratic Reform is getting a budget for the 24th year, ee sorry, ee, sorry, ee in 2025. Later it will be around ee 392,980,127,000 so This is e overview for ee for 2025 yes ladies and gentlemen then ee we also want to inform ee that for our 100 day program ee Firstly, there are three priorities that will be carried out. The first is that we want to complete the organizational arrangements for the Red and White Cabinet ministries and the filling of positions for the Red and White Cabinet. Then the second is related to the establishment of the EE performance accountability system or SAKP which is the basis of ministries and institutions. to achieve national development or share outcomes and national participation, the third is the arrangement of non-nasn personnel for the first program, Mr. and Mrs. e. We respect the composition of state ministries in the red and white cabinet in 2024, there are 48 Ministries, 48 Ministries with details of 7 coordinating ministers, 19 permanent Ministries 20 Ministries that experienced changes to their nomenclature and/or assignments as well as two Ministries that only experienced changes to their nomenclature and of course we will present the roadmap for institutional arrangements for filling out ASN, there are several lists of Ministries that really need to be coordinated, so later we ee ee what is it called it will move so ee the steps for structuring it are currently in position ee the entire draft presidential regulation is already on the president's desk so with the target in November all the discussions have been completed ee ee the organizational structure and working procedures of EE the second stage is finished ee then also ee likewise at the same time we also ee prepare ee ee What are the names of the human resources? There are three legal instruments which what are the names of which EE guarantees the continuity of the implementation of the duties of the ee functions of the Red and White Cabinet Ministry. This is the first one, Presidential Decree number 133 of eh 2024 regarding the formation of state ministries, then the presidential decree of uh, presidential decree number 39 of 2024, that is what we call the transitional presidential decree, as you know, ladies and gentlemen, today there are a lot of exchanges or transfers and divisions of the existing functions. in ministries and EE ministries and institutions so we drafted presidential decree number 139 of 2024 and it has been signed then we have also signed it by Mr President regarding the presidential decree relating to EE EE organizational guidelines for EE Deputy Ministries including EE Deputy Minister of Special Affairs and EE others are also related to positions and appointments, well, some of the most crucial content is in the presidential decree 139 of 2024 because it is here in this presidential decree that the exchanges in the ee ee what are the functions of the The Ministry of ee's provisions regarding ee's provisions regarding ee's, what is the name of the substance, are the arrangement of ee's as stated in the explanation starting from the resolution of ee's, the substance of the merger and so on, including how we divide the human resources that occupy the position of ee, noting that the human resources currently in office remain carry out their duties and functions then ee the use of EE human resources later we will also issue a Pan candy related to the use of human resources then also the sustainability of income for employees who experience transfers of course it will not be detrimental to the employees concerned So for employees who EE at k no those who continue to run ee receive income but the KL that EE moves receives income in accordance with the original ee ministries and institutions then ee ladies and gentlemen whom I respect eh the second priority is the determination of the government system eh system eh government performance accountability which will be based on the Ministry of institutions to achieve targets national development for ee encouraging more impactful RB, ladies and gentlemen, ee we need to pay attention to the paradigm shift from output orientation to ee outcome orientation so ee based on real criteria ee that is produced well ee the direction of the president to us is that every rupiah generated or those issued by government agencies must of course have an impact on society so that the current EE that we are developing can encourage the achievement of EE development through planning and EE ee budgeting we see that ee actually every agency should contribute to the achievement of e Development priorities, for example, we set an example for overcoming poverty, not just one agency, ladies and gentlemen, but ee also becomes the focus of the performance of each eh Ministry. Therefore, ee for our 100 day program we initiated a policy of government accountability system government performance accountability system or sakp and because through sakp of course there will be performance harmony between ministries, institutions and regional governments in achieving national development so that integrated eh creates performance integration between eh K and ee eh regional governments next ee ee this last one which may ee be a follow up or continuation of what we ee did ee in the previous period, namely the arrangement of non-ASN staff because law number 20 has mandated that at the end of December this arrangement of non-ASN will need to be completed immediately ee Patan ASN Of course, ee, as in law number 20, ee is a mandate from law number 20 of 2003. Then to fulfill P3K in accordance with the needs of the agency, then ee also to clarify the employment status of on-asn personnel, then there is mapping and identification of non-ASN personnel and encouraging non-ASN personnel. to register and take part in first aid witnesses for 2024. EE will appoint non-ASN staff in 2024 ee, maybe ee we will also continue the old ee program which we have to complete, maybe we still remember, maybe yes, sir, in connection with that, we have a guiding principle, that is the direction, eh, in At that time, we are avoiding mass layoffs by not reducing current income and then also avoiding budget overruns and in accordance with existing regulations, ee next, ladies and gentlemen, ee currently, ee in 2024 the government has set the need for housing at 2.3 million of the total Both government and central agencies have proposed as many as 1,289,824 agencies and the follow-up is that the Ministry of Civil Service will of course coordinate with BKN and e later, eh, we will ee ee staff, ee ee selection of non-ASN staff, of course we will try to complete this ee this year and the selection PPK for 2024 for the arrangement of non-ASN personnel, there will be mechanisms and priorities and criteria for applicants, so this formation, ladies and gentlemen, is 100% for non-ASN personnel, so for this P3K, eh, it is indeed for non-ASN personnel, so this is in accordance with according to the results of the agreement with commission 2 ee which is based on data at BKN ee currently ee first aid selection has been underway ladies and gentlemen and EE has arrived at ee selection ee administration there are approximately three things that ladies and gentlemen ee ee what it's called ee the 100 day programs that we have to carry out are mainly what we have already conveyed our commitment to complete at the end of the year, especially the completion of non ASN staff and also the completion of the ee ee organizational mechanism for ministries and institutions because everyone is waiting for the new ministry organization all waiting and we ee continue ee continue to move together Minister of State Secretary and ministers ee ee ee Minister of Finance ee for and minister of Bappenas for ee resolution of eh organization of ministries eh temporary institutions ee so our respected Chairman and members of ee commission 2 end the explanation Of course, we would like to say thank you once again for the attention of all the leadership and members of Commission 2 of the Indonesian House of Representatives. The jasmine flowers blooming in the gardens are beautiful like flowers. Excellent service is the hope of ASN discipline, responsibility is maintained. Thank you wasalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. Thank you, Minister. Pan and bureaucratic reform, we have listened later, Leaders and members, please note that there is time for us to do an in-depth study, ladies and gentlemen, it's not just the Ministry of Institutions which is then expanding or making adjustments to our nomonkelature in the Indonesian House of Representatives, we are also adding two commissions and one body of ministers who are I know based on The provisions of the laws and regulations of our General Secretariat will of course also increase the positions of echelon 3 echelon 4 to then help our friends in commission 12, commission 13 and our community aspiration body. Today we can go straight to a meeting. Can go straight on because the secretariat is complete but there are two commissions Of course this must be helped and don't let Commission 2 think about renovating other people's houses while we haven't fixed the rooms in our own house. If possible, please include this in the conclusion. This is important for the fate of our institution DPR. Before I invite the chairman of the Republic of Indonesia, I remind all working partners that the Commission 2 DPRRII for the 2024-2029 period requires all working partners to include all office representatives or whatever their names are vertical officials in districts, cities, provinces, if there is an ombusman, for example, of course the representatives in each province must be included via Zoom so that then all the aspirations that develop in the Commission 2 DPRRII This from various members from various electoral districts is not only heard and resolved by the leadership at the central level but can also be heard by our friends in the regions and we can also raise cases in the regions according to their respective needs, as well as with the BKN with Lan Anri and so on. Next, we invite the Acting Head of BKN of the Republic of Indonesia to be brief, bro, because it's still a PLT, it doesn't need to be too long, then we'll just have to wait for the definitive one [Music] yes Bismillahirrahmanirrahim asalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh Good afternoon, best wishes to all of us, respected Mr. Chairman and members Honorable members of Commission 2 of the DPR RI, Mrs. Minister Pan RB, along with Mr. Deputy Minister, along with the staff that I respect, Chairman of the Ombudsmen of the Republic of Indonesia, along with staff that I respect, Head of the National Archives of the Republic of Indonesia, along with staff that I respect, Head of the State Administration Institute, along with the staff that attended the meeting. First of all, let us give thanks to Allah Subhanahu wa Taala, Almighty God, today we will still be given the opportunity to be healthy, God willing, happy so that we can attend the hearing with Commission 2 of the DPR RI. On this occasion we would like to congratulate you on the inauguration of the Chairman and members of the Commission. 2 DPR RI We hope that we can carry out our duties with full dedication so that we can bring change to a better Indonesia. Permission, Mr. Chairman, please introduce the ranks of the PKN first, the first is the main secretary, Mrs. Hajah Imas Sukmariah, the second is the Deputy for the development of ASN management implementation, Mr. Su Herman, the third is the Deputy for the implementation of ASN BAP management services, the Deputy for information systems and digitalization, Mr. and the last is the PLT Deputy for supervision and control, Mrs. Chairperson and the happy members of Commission 2. In accordance with the agenda for today's meeting, we will convey the agenda for the invitation. -law number 20 of 2023 concerning state civil servants in article 26 paragraph 2 letters c and d and regulation of the Republic of Indonesia number 92 of 2024 concerning PKN that PKN e carries out government duties in the field of formulating and establishing technical policies, fostering the implementation of control services over the implementation of technical policies ASM management and the implementation of the basic implementation of the system in carrying out these tasks. PKN carries out several functions, the first is the formulation of technical policies for ASN management, then the guidance of the implementation of technical policies, the fourth, the provision of services for the implementation of technical policies, up to the supervision of the implementation of tasks in the PKN environment, the description of tu and fsiganisas and the new ker has additional duties, namely supervising the implementation of the merit system where the previous function was carried out by the state civil service commission. The increase in authority given to BKN certainly has implications for expanding the use of BKN services which from previously focusing on managing the functioning of central and regional agencies to also supervising implementation. system in the dairy agency environment up to the individual level, ladies and gentlemen, whom I respect, PKN has issued a letter on September 5 2024 regarding the 2024 CPNS procurement selection schedule which is currently ongoing, namely the basic competency selection for CPNS with progress until October 25 2024, as follows: the agencies that have Completed the basic competency selection process for 8 central agencies, 61 central agencies and 453 regional agencies, 19 regional agencies that will implement the SKD this year , and R3,35,723 applicants have been declared to have passed the administration and taken part in the first basic selection of candidates. civil servants in accommodating the implementation of the CPNS skd this time BKN has prepared location points ranging from the archipelago to foreign regions including 36 BKN office location points including Central BKN 14 regional offices and 21 BKN UPTs then BKN also carries out selection at 75 Mandiri BKN 103 location points 35 location points for Mandiri agencies and 93 location points abroad based on the letter from the Head of BKN dated 27 September 2024. The selection schedule for procurement of government civil servants with work agreements in 2024 is currently underway. The administrative selection process is currently underway for priority applicants for category 2 honorary staff and registered non-ASN staff. in the PKN database the progress of registration for first aid selection selection up to 25 October 2024 for teacher applicants is 251,640. Then for technical first aid workers who registered 996,080. Then for health worker first aid applicants there are 92,066 ladies and gentlemen, whom I respect based on Presidential Regulation number 139 of 2024 concerning the structuring of duties and The function of the state ministries of the Red and White Cabinet for the period 2024 to 2029 which has an impact on the splitting of several BKN agencies will make several efforts to assist in ensuring personnel services by issuing a BKN circular stating that all BKN personnel services can still be carried out by the old agencies during the transition period until the formation of institutional Presidential Regulations and ministerial regulations regarding the recruitment of new agencies in preparation for structuring human resources in accordance with Presidential Regulation number 139 of 2024. BKN will carry out mapping of existing employees in agencies and then there will be coordination between the PKN Ministry of Administrative and Bureaucratic Reform and government agencies, Mr. Madam, the leader who I respect the state's civil service through the digital platform of the State Civil Apparatus Information System or SIASN. I am currently preparing steps to be taken for ministries or institutions affected by the new Red and White Cabinet. First, ensure that ASN management services are not disrupted and coordinate with related units, second. BKN facilitates processes related to ASN management services and thirdly, BKN will collaborate with the Ministry of Administrative and Bureaucratic Reform and functional position development agencies to ensure changes to the nomenclature and new arrangements of the Ministry so as not to disrupt the main tasks and functions related to the AS system and integration in the Red and White Cabinet from 2025 to 2029. mechanism for the process of transferring ASN PKN will issue a list of ASN that will be transferred based on eslon 1 eslon 2 units which refers to the nomenclature of the Presidential Regulation of the second agency based on data on ASN that will be transferred issued by BKN, the agency will carry out verification and validation by the sasn and thirdly the data ASN employees who will be transferred are based on employee data stored in the PKN database. If there are employees whose data is not recorded and has not been updated, then the agency is obliged to update the data first and then to support the acceleration of the arrangement of ASN in the BKN red and white cabinet through the PPIAS S iasn Directorate which supports digitalization ASN management has created an ASN transfer feature on the State Civil Apparatus Information System service with the following mechanism: agencies can display and download ASN data resulting from BKN mapping that is transferred per eson 1 and eson 2 unit. The parent agency checks or selects the ASN data that will be transferred to the destination agency, the parent agency carries out verification and following this transfer, the four proposals were accepted by the BKN and then a Decree on the transfer of ASN was issued and finally the Decree on the transfer of ASN can be downloaded on the system that has been built by the PKM, Mr. Chairman and members of the commission that we respect based on the addition of agencies formed by the red and white cabinet. So it can be predicted that the number of ESN that will be transferred will be 129,901 civil servants and P3K with details for the Ministry of Disadvantaged Villages, Development and Transmigration as many as 2072, Ministry of Law and Human Rights as many as 64,879, Coordinating Ministry for Maritime Affairs and Investment, numbering 453 ASN, Ministry of Cooperatives and Small and Medium Enterprises, as many as 710 ASN Ministry of Environment and Forestry with a total of 19,545 Ministry of Tourism and Creative Economy with a total of 2,256 Ministry of Public Works and Public Housing with a total of 22,202 SN and finally the Ministry of Education, Culture, Research and Technology with a total of 117,780 SN ASN places in connection with data collection on non-ASN personnel for registration of government employees with the first phase of the work agreement focused on category 2 honorary teachers, midwives and non-ASN staff starting from 1 October to 20 October 2024 until 20 20 October 2024. There are 1,789,046 non-ASN staff in the PKN database who, God willing, will completed in accordance with the mandate of the ASN law until 31 December 2024. Honorable ladies and gentlemen, after the issuance of Presidential Regulation number 92 of 2024, of course the BKN's functions relating to the supervision of the merit system will be carried out in accordance with the authority contained in the presidential regulation . For this reason, BKN has made efforts related to monitoring and controlling the implementation of the merit system, then encouraging agencies to immediately use the talent management system in the process of filling out the JPT, then supervising ASN management control through NSPK and filling in the JPT through an application that has been built in an integrated manner by BKM, according to the leadership and We respect the members of Commission 2 for their attention and support from the leadership and all members of Commission 2 of the Indonesian House of Representatives. We thank you. I conclude. Bil taufik wal hidayayah wasalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh Waalaikumsalam. Thank you to the Acting Head of BKN. This PLT is training, sir. Yes, we certainly hope that BKN can work also quickly because of changes in the nomenclature of ministries and agencies that have just been formed because not only the structure and high-ranking officials have to be filled but there is also migration of ASN, which was not small in number throughout Indonesia, which we must do immediately, Madam Minister, Mr. Deputy Minister. the chairman of the ombusmen for the heads of institutions who have presented their presentations, we would like to thank you. Next , we will enter an in-depth session from the leaders and members of Commission 2 of the DPR RI. action people , then there will be proportionality in the future in the hearing meeting which I think will definitely be asked by almost everyone. We will use an attendance mechanism to determine who will carry out the investigation first so that there is initial justice. We will give him the opportunity to ask. If he doesn't want to, that's fine. later the secretariat will help and finally it will definitely be later to express its views yes I am not limiting the time but I think we all have our own wisdom in this place this du commission is rich in opinions Mr deputy minister I don't need to continue being poor with the others The current income from the Gerindra Party Fraction, Mr. Bahtra, should not be long, please, Mr. Bahra. Thank you, Chairman of Commission 2, whom I respect, other leaders and all members of Commission 2. First of all, perhaps I would like to thank the Minister and the Deputy Minister, eh, even though I have just returned from Magelang, but Let's see the faces of the Minister and the Deputy Minister are still very fresh. Hopefully this will be a big hope to then speed up eh what Prabowo Gibran's program will be in the future eh and the others are the head of the ombusmen Head of BKN head Lan head Andri eh maybe I won't give too long a discussion like Kang Bima because eh Miss Minister and Mr Deputy Minister today should be taking care of a lot of things I know exactly, ma'am, because I just came back from Magelang and then I had to organize a lot of things related to speeding up ee the formation of ee or whatever was needed by other ministries, especially those where ee ministries were separated eh. I'm just entrusting you, ma'am, hopefully the matter Previously, the emphasis on e-ASN competency needs to be maximized again in an effort to speed up what is stated in Prabowo Gibran's Astaacita. Then the second is about service, sometimes this is about service which must be quickly transparent and accountable, Prabowo Gibran. Ma'am, we plan that economic growth must be ee is bigger than in the previous period, therefore, ee, bureaucracy is also needed, sometimes this bureaucratic culture also often hinders or ee How regional investment can run quickly, well, I'm leaving this, ma'am, hopefully this can be sorted out as soon as possible so that ee ee, for example, if people want investment in the regions to be accelerated then that will also support the steps to increase the achievement of economic growth planned by eh Mr. Prabowo Gibran, that's possible from uh me to the Minister of Administrative and Bureaucratic Reform once again, thank you ma'am, I also saw the presentation. This paper is quite good. it's complete , eh, even though it was compiled in a very short time because yesterday. A few days ago, I was still focused, maybe my thoughts were on Magelang. Then, secondly, I want to go to the Head of BKN. Well, this is a deposit from my electoral district, sir. There's a lot of buzz about the loss of 426 health workers' data, eh. Muna Regency, when you want to access the link for the 2024 P3K test, maybe a few weeks ago it was very busy in my electoral district ma'am, sir, in my electoral district, sir, please pay attention, maybe that's what I can say, leadership, Thank you, ee, nice to meet you, respectful greetings to all working partners who I'm here on this happy occasion . I hope I'm also the same at Commission 2, especially when I'm new because previously I was at Commission 11. Once again I would like to thank you. Hopefully in the future we can work together and God willing, I believe in good cooperation. OK, it will speed up what we all aspire to. Thank you, thank you once again. Wasalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuhumsalam warahmatullahi wabarakatuh, as predicted, ma'am, it's not long and the content is further appreciation, Kang Dedi Yusuf. I welcome you, chairman. I must also appreciate this because it has become part of government, thank you, Mrs. Minister , Deputy Minister and the heads of institutions. I'm honest. I'm new here. I want to know more. This is interesting. The first thing is that when we talk about bureaucratic reform, it will soon be direct regional election season and I'm sure there are many regional heads who are promising. bureaucratic reform, but if we pay attention to the story, bureaucratic reform is not something that is easy, especially looking at this last issue that needs to be of concern to all of us. There are those who want to retire and have almost 1 trillion in cash, sir. So the question is: Have we carried out the monitoring function or placement? People who stay in a position for too long are dangerous. I ask this from BKN Kemen RB. Don't put people who stay in the same position for too long. Thank you for subscribing, for those who have just discovered this channel, like the video, click the bell and turn on the notification, don't forget to subscribe because we I know very well that there is something called uh Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Well, this is our hope here, of course we want to learn more about the bureaucratic reform process. Is the recruitment process the placement process and then re-evaluated every year? What is the placement process? is it suitable or not, especially now that we also know that the chairman said there are several ministries that don't even have one echelon sat, so our task in the future is also very difficult and hopefully we can take part in ensuring that we don't end up just filling ministry posts that don't have people yet. In the end, let's just understand that things like this are like fighting for positions, usually in echelon 3 2 1 This immediately fills in the desire to move. Well, hopefully it will be in line with capacity and competence. Second, I am also interested in this First Aid, for me, it is something that we have to complete because this meeting was 4 years ago and Mr. President before that, Mr. Jokowi has also said that December must be finished. If I'm not mistaken, Commission 2 has also said that, Mr. Yunimart said that December must be finished, while we still have 200,000 honorary first aid workers, which teacher was earlier. If I look at the data, 90 thousand passed, the remaining 100 That's all they haven't passed, so the notes are those who didn't pass, what will happen to them? Will they be retested again or will they do what? Because that's what is being asked. We understand that in order to become a P3K, you have to pass the selection, you have to take a test, but if you don't pass, what's the solution? Hopefully we can also get it. input here so that we know what we have to fight for. This is not a problem for 100 days. Today we are talking about problems. The fate of people in the future. So Mr. Chairman, you don't need to stay long. Thank you assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuhikumsalam warahmatullahi wabarakatuh Brother Zulfikar, please, Brother or later, Brother Zulpiker. This is his younger brother for a long time, so I'm afraid, next I invite the PD struggle faction, please be the first to do it, Bang Giri, please, Thank you, chairman, because this is the first time I want to deepen this, I'm afraid I'm going too deep into this, okay? So if earlier Mr. Dedi Yusuf had already started the honorary issue earlier. Maybe this is the same thing that we have to emphasize. I have been in the provincial DPRD for 20 years. Every year there is a lot of fuss about this issue, Madam Minister, Mr Deputy Minister, what do we think about how we will organize non-nasn workers in the future? Because there are still a lot of them, especially after every regional election, even though they say we are no longer allowed to appointing honorary staff. But suddenly the regional head intelligently issued new instruments to appoint employees, even now they have appeared with decree modes only for the Head of Service or perhaps only the head of the UPTD, well, now they are demanding. After 5 years and 10 years they are demanding I am also honorary if we stop How will this become one of the things that becomes a question When we were talking about the honorary database earlier If Mr Didi Yusuf said there were only 100,000 teachers left but in reality later there will be something called committee teachers, there are teachers who are appointed by school principals, this will also be like that. 10, 5 years to 10 years, they teach, they also ask us to teach for 5 to 10 years, that's right, Kang Dede. Well, this is the PR that we have to complete, not to mention the ones who usually complain when it's already the admission period, those who don't pass the administrative selection at Bakn This is usually, well, this. Please, how about it? Sometimes if we say they're not smart, maybe they don't understand. How to get away from administration, so these are the things that we might have to address in the future, what kind of policy is there, why if we let it continue, then tomorrow after the regional elections This is at the beginning of 2025. New instruments will appear, ma'am, Minister, Mr. Pamen, the regional head will appoint another person, suddenly the salary will appear with strange nomenclature, sometimes it will be charged to projects, sometimes it will be charged to unclear work units. These are indeed experts in hiding their budgets, perhaps the Ombudsman here also has a role to remind regional heads in the regions so that they don't do this because if they don't do this together, after 5 years the regional heads have finished du perie, the regional heads will become our burden again, whereas they are only in this city district when P3 k is approved they are given a quota and when it is said that their salaries are returned to the APBD of the city district it also becomes Yesterday's problem in my village, Mr. Wamen, was that 2000 people were appointed as first aid workers when they were paid out of the budget of R billion a year. Fortunately, Muara Inum Regency is very rich. If it wasn't bankrupt, that district would have gone bankrupt. Well, this also happened in Banyuasin Regency, once he appointed 1,200 first aid workers, now the regional budget is under pressure to pay employees' salaries. Well, this might be our homework for managing non-sn workers in the future. On the one hand, providing certainty to those who have worked for the second government, what is the solution so that state finances don't become a problem in the future, maybe this is what I want ask Thank you next from the Grindra Party Fraction, okay, please Thank you, chairman, leadership, friends, members of the baleg, whom I respect, eh, commission [Laughs] du ee, first of all, we would like to convey our congratulations on the appointment of Mrs. Rini as Minister of Administrative and Administrative Reform in Our Red and White Burini Cabinet, as the supporting party of Pak Prabowo and Gibran, we hope that you can implement the president's vision, mission and program optimally, especially to present a bureaucracy that is superior, effective, fast and serves, and is of global class some time ago at the first Plenary Cabinet meeting with the ranks of Pak The red and white cabinet at the President's Palace expressed its anxiety regarding the existence of the Indonesian bureaucracy, which is seen as still complicated and slow, and there is even talk among the people that the government bureaucracy often makes things difficult rather than easier. Please allow us to remind you of President Prabowo's vision, namely that together with Indonesia we can reach Indonesia in 2024. realized in the Cipta program, one of which is strengthening legal and bureaucratic political reform as well as strengthening the prevention and eradication of corruption, drugs, gambling and smuggling. Of course, strengthening bureaucratic reform is needed to face challenges in increasingly complex government administration, especially in cutting down complicated bureaucracy and creating services. a public that is more efficient, transparent and responsive, even though we have approved the Job Creation law, the implementation of its derivatives in the field is still too slow, so the du commission in the last period 20192024 has issued law number 20 of 2023 concerning state civil servants with the aim of improving the performance of bureaucratic ASN as well as public services in Indonesia, apart from the slow and complicated bureaucracy, ASN is also photographed committing many violations of neutrality and carrying out corruption quotes like that. We hope that the Partners who are present today from the Ministry of Administrative and Bureaucratic Reform from BKN from LAN from Anri and the ombudsmen in the first 100 days This can show breakthroughs in their respective fields with above average performance and not just business as usual, especially to the Pan RB and BKN ministries. We hope to complete the ASN management RPP as mandated by law number 20 of 2023 article 68 concerning ASN law where the implementation or implementation regulations of this law are determined no later than 6 months after this law is promulgated where the ASN management RPP must be completed no later than April 2024 because the ASN law was promulgated October 31 2023 So if we talk 6 April should have finished but until October it hasn't finished yet. We hope that the Minister can explain the concrete steps and progress so that the regulations related to the ASN law issue can run properly . the latest is December 2024 as mandated by article 66 in the ASN law through the 2024 PPK selection. We hope that by 2025 all problems regarding non-ASN employees have been completely resolved, there are no more problems regarding honorary staff as a note for the 2024 CPNS selection at this time. in the basic competition selection stage from October 16 to November 14 2024 is specifically or prioritized for new graduates or press graduates, don't leave it to non-PNS employees who are first aid workers. Plus, with law a and CPNS selection, this will actually add to the overlap, ma'am, instead of solving the problem, I hope there will also be an arrangement of ministries in the cabinet. red and white along with the readiness of ASN employees in each Ministry because we know that there are 48 Ministries of which there are 14 new Ministries and 34 existing ministries. Of course this also requires changes or shifts in the functions of a number of influential Ministries to fill ASN as well as budget adjustments, my hope is This can be completed immediately so that the red and white cabinet can immediately run optimally regarding state administrative institutions with changes in the nomenclature of institutional ministries in the era of Pak Prabowo's government. It seems that Lan needs to carry out serious studies regarding institutional arrangements, streamlining bureaucracy and effectiveness of governance . Pak Prabowo stated that bureaucracy is still complicated. and slow, so it is necessary to improve the development and implementation of competency-based training education for ASN employees. We would like to get a more detailed explanation from state administration institutions regarding how this is related to the problem of this study and how State Administration Institutions contribute to changing the complicated and slow nature of ASNs into ASNs. which is alert and effective regarding the National Archives of the Republic of Indonesia or Andri, this is an organization that works a lot but its budget is very minimal. I see that there are still many archival units and archival institutions that do not yet have adequate institutional status with the availability of authentic, complete and reliable archives, so there is still weak archival supervision by Andri for the Ministry's compliance, both lpnk, lns and local government, with archival laws and regulations where we see that the quality of archival services to the public is still very low. Maybe it would be better if Andri could explain his strategy to address this laziness so that our archives can become more advanced and able to i in advancing Indonesia regarding the ombusman. Back to the beginning, it seems necessary to establish a reward and punish mechanism, but on the one hand, which is no less important, we hope that the report to the ombusman can be followed up so that it becomes Zero Komain where the effectiveness of the use of management information technology for managing reports and complaints as a form of support in carrying out original duties through supervision or developing database applications. We are of the view that one of them is that the performance of the bureaucracy is not yet optimal because the performance of the ombusman is also not optimal. There are many reports of poor community service that have not yet been followed up, so maybe OK, I propose that the day after tomorrow it could be the community many people suffer losses, but it is also possible that people are willing to become victims of extortion in government agencies, whether BUMN or BUMD, rather than reporting to the ombudman as the chairman said earlier, because the ombusman only has a toothpick, so I think it would be nice once in a while if the ombusman did an inspection or OT so that the results could be seen by the public. the public, yes, of course, in this case, as we enter the new government, we hope and can find out what the 100 day program from the Ombudsman is so that the Ombudsman can become the public's hope if they receive bad public services, so maybe I would like to convey my thoughts, thank you, thank you, Bang Herry, next from the Party Fraction Nas add one by one, Sir, I'm sorry, one by one, Mr. Praks, Pan asdem. None. This is if you already have a chairman, then like this , everyone is represented by a chairman, Buak. There's nothing next from the National Awakening Party faction. There's no next from the Prosperous Justice Party Fraction, please, Mr. Rahmat Mak. thank you , first chairman, I would like to thank Kapoki who has given me the mandate to convey strategic notes related to our first meeting today . We both respect the Minister, Deputy Minister and heads of institutions. Those who are present today we will not comment much on several institutions and those invited today but we will focus on the Minister of Administrative and Bureaucratic Reform and BKN, perhaps ladies and gentlemen who are happy, especially the Minister, we respect Law 20 of 2023 related to ASN . giving fresh air to some non-ASN employees, yes. However, on the other hand, there is sadness, ma'am, special minister in West Sumatra. In West Sumatra, especially in my dabil, coincidentally this has entered the formation for first aid selection, especially in the functional area of teachers only, and they are already waiting for the end. this year because this is a mandate from the law that must be resolved regarding this status and these teachers are waiting for their fate and God willing, they have optimism but on the other hand there is sadness and anxiety for non-ASN employees who are non-technical teachers, namely those who are related to technical and their health is in trouble because of this, Minister, it turns out that at this moment they are not included in the special formation for West Sumatra, which has just entered, it is only for educators or teachers, while technical and health personnel have not yet entered, while this must be completed before December 2024, they are and are included today. They are present, Bang Rif, the leader is present, they are specifically from West Sumatra, there are three representatives to entrust this, with a sincere request to the Minister to open formations and give the opportunity for non-teacher formations , especially technical and health, to be opened, Ma'am, so that they can also join, Ma'am. feel the mandate of law 20 of 2023, they have hope and they have served for almost 15 to 19 years, they are not teachers, but without them the teaching and learning process cannot be carried out, there are school officials, there are administrators, there are all kinds of things, they have not been accommodated, so this is Mrs. please facilitate our aspiration to open the portal so that they can also take the first aid test this November because this is a 100 day program because this is the test this November in the next 10 days if possible, ma'am, the minister will have an answer to us and the governor has written to the minister, hopefully This can be facilitated. Then secondly, I do not deny that we must prioritize professional integrity in recruiting our employees, but happy ladies and gentlemen, especially for P3K who have served for dozens of years, we must also consider the humanitarian effect in this selection process. They have served for a long time, for example, -Simple administrative things that we can actually make easier. Why do these things cause them not to be able to pass this selection process? So if we propose a humanitarian aspect for first aid selection, we must also prioritize it, happy ladies and gentlemen. Just these two questions, sir. leaders that we are asking about, but we ask the Minister to provide clear answers and solutions to the things conveyed, especially point one above, thank you, Mr. Mrs. Asalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh Waalaikumsalam warahmatullahi wabarakatuh Thank you, Mr. Rahmat, Mrs. Minister, Mr. Deputy Minister, the heads of the institutions that I respect, indeed in the future we have to complete homework that was never finished regarding honorariums. I appreciate that the government of the last period has completed approximately 1, so many million and then there is still 1.1 million remaining. Indeed, the previous note from the members is that the number should not be increased by unscrupulous individuals. who does not have legal legality, the school principal raises his nephew wearing official uniforms, has a forestry degree, taught DSD for 5 years, asks for mercy from the state, even though the money is not from the state, but the money from the School Operational Assistance Boss. Yes, in the sense it is not from the daau. As for Mr. Jul's salary, what is like this? Mr. Zul and the other leaders said that we have to impose sanctions if the provisions are clear. The sanctions are that there is no executorial title in the law. There is no quick proposal to change the law to us if that is part of our way of resolving commission 2 problems seriously. to be part of the solution to bureaucratic reform and civil service in this Republic is the second I think we need to build a merit system for state civil servants that is equal and nationally based. The Success Team issue in every election for governor, regent, mayor at the level, especially echelon 2, is something that is difficult to avoid because the fate of their careers depends on the governor, regent, mayor. There are many former regional heads elected here, there are senior Pak Longki, former Governors, there are former Regents, former Mayors here, who I think were also aware or not aware that when they took part in the regional head elections without being asked, the Echelon 2 offered themselves, we don't have any indicators of sincerity. Sir, because it's a matter of the heart, you can't, but it's worth suspecting. That's all part of them saving their careers. Well, if this merit system is built nationally and evenly distributed to echelon 2 and above echelon 2, echelon 1 is appointed, dismissed by the center, he can be rotated at any time, he can become head of service at But he can be rotated anywhere in the Republic of Indonesia, so Mer is our system. I think there is something that we need to think about in the context of changes to the law and our personnel system in the future. Lastly, of course, about institutions which have been discussed a lot, especially institutions at the ministerial level. and state institutions which must immediately become our homework for the next 100 days must be sorted out, ladies and gentlemen, if it can be done sooner, the better, I can't imagine our friends being ministers today, the office doesn't know where it is. There's no money. There's no money yet. Unfortunately, the money is there. This is not the du commission's domain. If it is the du commission's domain, we will continue with the Minister of Finance, Mr. Dede Yusuf, so we can imagine how they understand their main tasks and functions but cannot complete them today. This is a real dilemma for friends who are now ministers and become heads of agencies and Next, I invite the Minister and the heads of the general leadership institutions to provide responses based on the theme alone, Sir, you don't need to mention them one by one and later, if you need a very detailed answer based on data, please answer it in writing, send it to us via the secretariat of Commission 2 of the House of Representatives, please, Madam Minister. OK, thank you, sir, ladies and gentlemen , thank you earlier for providing responses and questions, and of course later, if you missed some questions, we usually like to provide more detailed written answers to answer your questions. First of all, maybe three things will be conveyed. The three main points conveyed by Mr. and Mrs. The first is in relation to the issue of bureaucratic reform. Many of the members of Commission 2, whom I respect, EE, ask about the issue of bureaucratic reform, eh, every year indeed, eh, we will for the next 5 years, Mr. and ladies and gentlemen, we have prepared a strategic plan, of course in collaboration with beapenas and we have also prepared a grand design for national bureaucratic reform. So that is the main point or core of how we carry out bureaucratic transformation within the government and this, of course, we also see. that not everything cannot be done at once, bureaucratic reform is something very broad and we cannot possibly implement it all at once, so eh, as we always do every 5 years, this year we will develop several themes which will indeed have an impact on people's welfare. So firstly, we will continue on how to reform bureaucracy against poverty. Then secondly, about how to increase investment, which is the main part of the President's direction, regarding the management of sumeda and downstreaming as well as many things that are the president's actual priorities, for example regarding food self-sufficiency and so on. ee, we will carry out bureaucratic reform, this will not touch the substance, but we want to ensure that there is orchestration between ministries and institutions that carry out that function, so we will not carry out poverty alleviation, that we will not carry out poverty directly, no, but we recreating provides convenience so that all ministries and institutions can carry out their duties well and this is the last of course with ee ee with digitalization that we have previously asked how ee ee what is the name of ee services to the community and EE the transformation is carried out and of course we will continue to transform ee the digitalization of ee government ee will still be carried out well ee Ladies and Gentlemen ee this ee bureaucratic transformation that we will carry out of course is very related to the position of ee ee institution together with baapenas kemintan financial and EE EE state secretariat because We are the ones who sew or the EE who consolidates programs nationally and that is what EE of course is the one who is our expert on the programs that will be carried out next . regarding the issue of ee transparency in Kemenpan RB services, ladies and gentlemen , of course at this time you are trusted to be the head of coordination for eh eh what is it called eh integration eh electronic government to be the head of the spbi coordination team for electronic-based government systems so we have also built ee how we integrate services -the services that we have built using Goltek and so on. This means that all the governance that we have built in the thematic EE is of course filled or orchestrated using digital EE transformation. Then secondly, EE is related to bureaucratic reform, there are also several The concern from the ladies and gentlemen is related to how we relate it to the aspirations of the President, eh, the President, Prabowo. So actually, uh, what we said about the 100 days is of course an important point for us to start from, uh, the direction from the uh President, namely regarding uh Asta Citata, so there are indeed several, uh, maybe explain the words related to eh, Asta Citata. One of the tasks that we do is, uh, this one is the seventh Origin of Aspirations which is related to the Ministry of Panrb, so this 100 day program is of course moving on from Asta Citata number 7 so it's not far from there. Why are we concerned about this matter, for example in relation to SPBE goftek then ee which is building a national integrity system and so on, we have uh built it in such a way then the next one ladies and gentlemen is related to ee the second issue is about structuring ministries and institutions, as I said earlier, so now we have Ee implemented it as soon as it was announced, we have prepared 48 48 presidential regulations for the organization, we have already issued three, we are just waiting for the 48 presidential regulations for each ministry, namely those containing organizational and administrative regulations. work, we have even issued a Ministerial Regulation for the movement of ee, human resources, assets and so on , as well as the ee budget, just now we have checked that ee, Mr. President, it will soon be accelerated for ee, what is it called, eh, the signing of the presidential decree, eh, the presidential decree regarding this presidential decree. Why is this presidential decree so important because that is the starting point when the ministries and institutions start working, so our target is that hopefully within this week, all the presidential decrees regarding ministries and institutions can be implemented as well as for the preparation of e-esolon organizations. 2 ee down have also been carried out in parallel eh together with eh ministries and institutions then the third issue, ladies and gentlemen's permission, the EE issue is related to honorary issues so ee law number 20 article 62 indeed prohibits the appointment of honorary staff so I thank you, Mr. Zul, that we are no longer allowed, regional leaders are no longer allowed to appoint honorary staff in accordance with Law Number 20 and we have been ordered to complete the honorary staff in 2024 and we have data based on the data provided. Dar is entered from all ministries, institutions and regional governments and the data has been recorded by e BKN and has been completed since what month Sir, I forgot that on December 31 2022, the data collection has been completed, so we have also opened the formation which we have given to all, we have opened it to all ministries, institutions and regional governments. So we cannot open the formation without a proposal from the relevant agency, so that's what we have done and that proposal. it also has to be adjusted to the data submitted to PKN so ee hopefully later ee we can ee complete it and EE we have also developed a mechanism for how to resolve it and we have issued Permenpan numbers 347 to 349 of 2024 ee in relation to ee the criteria for applicants then what is the mechanism we have arranged ee in such a way and now for PPP3K we have also prepared ee what is it called? Ee administrative selection based on the proposed formation proposal so indeed according to the statutory regulations we have to follow ee what is it called ee the needs of government agencies the formation that we provide is around 1.7 but what the new regional government uses is less than 1.7, only around 1 million ee so ee we can't make it up to include ee the formation so this is the vacancy the projection is ee in such a way so there are some who really don't propose to us And there are also those who propose exceeding the list in BKN so ee In accordance with the agreement between the Minister of Administrative and Bureaucratic Reform and commission 2 some time ago when we finalized law number 20 we will complete ee all non-ASN data based on data from BKN at once also completing the ee data, what is it called, ee, priority data that must be completed and EE, hopefully later ee we can complete it by the end of December 2024, eh 2024, that's possible, sir, eh, three issues that we can convey and later, ee in detail, ee, what is the name of the question? Ladies and gentlemen, please convey this because there is a lot of data and we will convey some of it in detail later in the list of questions submitted. Thank you assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh waikumsalam warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. Others, without reducing respect, may be submitted in writing. Yes, yes, yes. It's suitable for us to arrive. In which conclusion, the draft conclusion for the leadership's permission can be deepened a little, that's enough, sir, then it won't be finished, the new one will come, then we will get to know the partner directly or I will assign Mr. Bahra to introduce later. The conclusion can be brought up. In Commission 2, the conclusion is a bit long, Mas Bimo. and Bang Dede because this length determines the narrative and weight of the conclusions of the working meeting with the opinion of Commission 2 of the Indonesian House of Representatives with the Minister for Administrative Reform and Bureaucratic Reform Head of the State Civil Service Agency, Head of State Administrative Institutions, Head of the National Archives of the Republic of Indonesia and Chairman of the Ombusman of the Republic of Indonesia, Monday 28 October 2024 S Commission 2 of the DPR RI asked the Ministry for Use of State Apparatus and Bureaucratic Reform, Ministry of Administrative and Bureaucratic Reform, State Administration Institution and State Civil Service Agency, BKN, National Archives of the Republic of Indonesia Anri and the ombudsmen of the Republic of Indonesia ori to immediately submit the strategic plan document for the 2025-2029 strategic plan to the secretariat of Commission 2 of the DPR RI. The 2025-2029 strategic plan is expected to become a strategic reference in improving better governance in an effort to create a public policy that is adaptive and oriented towards the interests of the community and ensures alignment with the vision of a developed Indonesia 2045. It is suitable. Ladies and gentlemen, I agree with the additions and changes to the structure of ministries and institutions. in the red and white cabinet, commission 2 of the Indonesian House of Representatives encourages the Ministry of Administrative and Bureaucratic Reform to immediately issue a Regulation of the Minister of Administrative and Bureaucratic Reform regarding the implementation of the use of human resources and filling the positions of ASN state civil servants in each appropriate ministry and institution. Ma'am, this minister already exists, Sir, we already have OK, then we are not encouraging the Ministry to immediately support the Ministry of Administrative and Bureaucratic Reform to immediately implement publishing, replacing it with implementing implementation, deleting implementation. Implementation is removed to be about the use of human resources and filling ASN positions in each ministry and institution. Suitable ma'am, sir, sir, sir, please sir, if there are corrections, please Iz Sir, this is this candy, the implementation is actually in the Ministry and Institution, Sir, so it carries out monitoring and the evaluation is whether it is carried out or not by the ministry, institution, so that they are not harmed , it is good to immediately carry out monitoring and evaluation , Yes, of the implementation . Yes, Sir, I and I have permission for the implementation. Yes, it is the Ministry of Administrative and Bureaucratic Reform together with BKN, sir, because BKN is supervising the merit system at BKN. Currently, the Ministry of Administrative and Bureaucratic Reform and related state institutions are adding directly to the State Civil Service Agency, permission from the leadership. Oh okay, the Ministry of Administrative and Bureaucratic Reform and BKN RI are ministerial regulations. Yes, because it is indeed a regulation. I repeat, ladies and gentlemen, with the additions and changes to the structure of ministries and institutions in the Red and White Cabinet, Commission 2 of the Republic of Indonesia supports the Ministry of Pan RB and BKN RI to immediately carry out monitoring and evaluation of the implementation of the Minister of Pan RB regulations regarding the use of human resources and The filling of ASN positions in each ministry and institution agrees with commission 2. DPR RI asks the Ministry of Administrative and Bureaucratic Reform to grant principle permission for the DPR RI general secretariat's proposal to reorganize the organization in order to adjust to changes in the number of AKDs in the DPR RI, namely the addition of two commissions and one body as well as support for expertise in the field of drafting legislative regulations and reviewing laws at the Constitutional Court no later than the beginning of November 2024, it seems to have been included in the paragraph at number one, actually Sir at number one, so this is just a moral responsibility, Ma'am, with commissions and bodies Other than that, we don't have any problems, ma'am. If you write it down, it's okay. Agree to ensure the distribution of the main duties and main functions of the Ministry which is experiencing separation into two or three Ministries and the readiness of ASN employees. I don't think it is necessary for those employees to be ready to prepare ASN in the new Ministry structure, commission 2 The DPR RI asked the Ministry of Administrative and Bureaucratic Reform and BKN of the Republic of Indonesia to regulate clearly and in detail these main tasks and functions so that there is no overlap in authority and to optimize the process of mutation, rotation and filling of employee positions, eliminating ASN employees so that government administration runs effectively and efficiently, there are quite suitable corrections, agreed with the five commissions 2 asks the Ministry of Administrative and Bureaucratic Reform to coordinate with the Ministry of Finance of the Republic of Indonesia and related institutions in providing buildings and supporting facilities for new institutional ministries in order to facilitate efficient operationalization and according to needs. Ministry of State Secretariat and this has been regulated in Presidential Decree 139. So maybe it's not okay if we cross out this, cross out number 6 and move up to number 5 in order to ensure the implementation of thematic bureaucratic reform. Continue running smoothly. Commission 2 of the DPR supports the Ministry of Administrative and Bureaucratic Reform to accelerate digital transformation in order to realizing high-performance and agile institutional capabilities as well as quality public services that are easily accessible to the public. If the Minister agrees, we will take part in Commission 2 of the Indonesian House of Representatives to encourage the Ministry of Administrative and Bureaucratic Reform and BKN to immediately complete the arrangement of non-ASN personnel no later than December 2024 as mandated by article 66 of the law. law number 20 of year 24 concerning ASN so that honorary staff can have certainty about their employment status as ASN leadership ready please please Thank you leadership I suggest the recommendation is good but I suggest adding a little please commission 2 of the Indonesian House of Representatives encourages and so on for ee what is the name eh the longest December as a mandate from the year's law on the state so that workers are ASN and and ensure that all formations related to teachers, technical and health personnel who enter before today's date, the formations are opened, yes. The language may be adjusted because of the status of several regions, especially ours. Technical and health personnel are not included in the proposal, but there is a follow-up letter 2 last week, so if we can, this is included in our recommendation, leader. Thank you, Chair. Thank you for your input, Madam Minister. I need a response, Madam Minister, because this is technical. In my personal experience in the DPR, we don't talk very technically. Let's talk about policy, please, Madam Minister, Mak Ok. Sir, eh, actually, eh, this is really technical, sir, so uh, law number 20 is also in the RPP, eh, and has been agreed with the du commission , so indeed we are finalizing the ASN, uh, the formation of which is in accordance with the proposal of the eh agency concerned, so we ca n't That's what it's proposed, sir, so maybe ee I would like to suggest that this doesn't need to be regulated in number 6. Thank you, that means, Mr. Rahmat, as long as it has been proposed by the authorized official, the Ministry of Administrative and Bureaucratic Reform does not have the competence to reject things like that, but to create them. No. can we respect our duties and authority according to the law, we will return it to its original state up to the point of becoming an ASN, point of agreement, OK? Uh, sir, permission, that's law number 20 of 2023, not 2024. Oh, 2023, yes, please, secretariat of the law. Don't let us be embarrassed. with the Minister, we are correcting this, Ma'am, agree, Ah, seven, as an effort to increase the development of ASN competency, Commission 2 of the Indonesian House of Representatives supports state administration institutions to strengthen HR management with continuous training that is integrated with job duties and responsibilities in order to achieve organizational goals and national development. The head agrees. Del Commission 2 of the DPR encourages the National Archives of the Republic of Indonesia to ensure that the archives management process in ministries and institutions undergoing structural changes runs correctly and according to procedures so that the transfer and storage of data can take place smoothly without losing the Republic of Indonesia's pakpr ombusmen archives data to improve supervision of public services In the Ministry, the new ombudmen institution is also asked to hold outreach and education to strengthen awareness of the community's rights in obtaining quality public services. Agree, sir, yes, finally, Commission 2 of the Indonesian House of Representatives asked the ministries of Pan RB LAN BKNRI and OR to submit a written answer regarding questions from the leadership and members of Commission 2 of the DPR RI through the secretariat of Commission 2 of the DPR RI no later than 7 days after today's RDP working meeting agreed that with the conclusion of today's meeting, the hearing meeting also ends . and Chief Andri, on behalf of our leadership, would like to say thank you very much for the attentive presence and enthusiasm of all the leaders and members of Commission 2 of the DPR RI and by saying Alhamdulillahi rabbil alamin today's working meeting we declare it closed Billahi taufik wal hidayah asalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh was