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Supporting and Serving Marriages Together

I challenge you, do it. Next restaurant you go to, just stop at the bus station and grab that pitcher of water. And just start walking around the restaurant, filling up empty water glasses. At first, the waitstaff will be like, what is going on? But after about two minutes, they're like, smoke break, and they're out the back door.

Man, it gives you a charge. Welcome to the Focus on the Family broadcast, helping families thrive. Ted Cunningham is our guest today, and he's going to challenge us to serve one another in our marriages. And that's related to the restaurant story you just heard.

He's also reminding us that as Christians, we should be supporting the marriages around us. Ted is the founding pastor of Woodland Hills Family Church in Branson, Missouri, and is the author of almost a dozen books, including A love that laughs. Here's Pastor Ted Cunningham speaking at a Focus on the Family chapel several months ago.

Every marriage is a duet in need of great backup singers. And we take this from the Song of Solomon chapter 1 verse 4. You know that great book of the Bible where Solomon, the shepherd king, and the Shulamite woman, their duet is forming in chapters 1 and 2 and in chapter 3. They get married, they have a wedding in chapter 4, they're on the honeymoon in chapters 5, 6, 7, and 8. They're talking about commitment and faithfulness in marriage. I love the daughters of Jerusalem in the Song of Solomon.

They're the backup singers to the duet of Solomon and the Shulamite woman. The first time we hear them, this is what they say about this young, budding love. We rejoice and delight in you. We will praise your love more than wine. They come in and begin to celebrate what God is doing in this couple, and that is the desire in our church for all of our congregation, every member of our church, to be a backup singer to the duets all around them, their family, their friends, their other church members, their co-workers.

Can you imagine every family member, friend, and church member as a backup singer? According to Hebrews 13, for marriage should be honored by all, should be esteemed as highly valuable, whether you're young or old. Married or single, we're all called to esteem marriage as highly valuable.

I love thinking about a church that is passionate about marriage and equipping every member to be a backup singer, getting involved in the lives of other couples. Now I have a face that screams retail. I can't explain it any other way, but when I go into stores and restaurants, I get asked the question all the time, do you work here? You laughed, Jim, but I think you got a similar face. I gotta be real honest with you.

How many times have you been asked that question? I'm so tired of being asked that question. I don't fight it anymore. I just go with it.

How may I help you is my standard response. How may I help you? I want to get involved here. I'll go back.

I've been in the back room getting shoe sizes and shirts. I'll do whatever I can. And so we were at one of our favorite little restaurants one day in Branson called Sugar Leaf.

And as I'm walking to the restroom, I notice this senior couple sitting at the table, and they're frustrated. They're mad. I just went, oh, I got a second.

So I walk over to their table, and I simply ask them, how was everything? This is so much fun. It's become a new hobby for me.

I said, how was everything? And he goes, I got to be honest with you, we're pretty ticked. I said, oh. I said, I hate to hear that.

What seems to be the problem? Well, your sign outside said bratwurst. And we stood in line for 20 minutes, okay, waiting for Bratwurst. We get to the front, and you're out of Bratwurst.

Now, I'm only 43, but I can't wait for the day in my life when the biggest issue of my day is a store being out of Bratwurst. I said, sir, I hate to hear that. What can we do to make this right? I want to make this right. I don't want you leaving here mad.

His whole attitude started to change. I said, what if I get you a piece of pie? Listen, pie. With senior adults especially, changes everything.

We have another little saying in our church that goes like this, don't get a divorce, get a donut. You cannot fight while eating a donut. I promise you that. It's impossible. So I said, sir, what if I get you a piece of pie?

Completely different mood. Attitude totally changes. I go, I stand in line.

I buy him a piece of pie. I bring it back over. I set it down on the table.

And he's, thank you. He starts asking me questions about the restaurant. I'm like, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't work here.

That's my family over there and my whole family waves from across the restaurant. And then I get back to the table and I'm just, I'm fired up. I can't explain it, but I'm charged up. Like, kids, did you see that? I just, I just impersonated the store manager.

And I served them and I said, kids, this is exactly what every day of our lives should be like because we should be serving people with zero expectations of anything in return. That's why that was so fantastic. I challenge you, do it.

Next restaurant you go to, just stop at the bus station and grab that pitcher of water and just start walking around the restaurant filling up empty water glasses. At first, the waitstaff will be like, what is going on? But after about two minutes, they're like, smoke break, and they're out the back door.

Man, it gives you a charge. So I imagine a church where every member, every follower of Jesus is a backup singer. And when someone needs help with their marriage, and they approach someone in that church, they don't get, go talk to that guy over there. They get a, how can I help you?

How can I speak to you? I don't know how to do it. We know what to refer on, but in this moment right here, I can serve this marriage with what I know. That's why I tell singles who get frustrated hearing too many marriage messages in the church, you need these marriage messages because even when you're single, you can advocate, you can back up the marriages of your friends and of your family. Imagining a church where every backup singer is an ally for the marriage and not just the spouse.

I'm not speaking here of abuse or addiction where you really need to gather your friends and family around a spouse, but I'm speaking of that couple who's headed toward the lawyer's office, that couple who it's at the end, we're done. Instead of just being an ally for your son or being an ally for your daughter, you're an ally for your son's marriage and you're an ally for your daughter's marriage. I love in the Song of Solomon after Solomon and the Shulamite woman get back after the honeymoon.

They have conflict. Conflict takes place around the bedroom. Solomon leaves. The Shulamite woman goes looking for him.

And on her journey looking for him, she runs into their backup singers. And this is what they say in Song of Solomon, chapter 6, verse 1. Where has your beloved one gone, most beautiful of women? Which way did your beloved turn, that we may look for him with you? Not, he's a bum.

You knew this was going to happen. This is all men. No, they're an ally for the marriage, not just the spouse.

Years ago, I was at an event. I did a session called From Anger to Intimacy, and this lady came up to me afterwards. She was shaking. She was so mad at me and what I had just shared. And she walked right up to the book table, and she said, Pastor!

I said, yeah. She goes, I need to say something to you. I was like, wow.

I said, what's that? She goes, my husband left me. Do you know why he left me? I'm getting a little picture of it, but it's just a real small little picture.

And this is what she said. You hear this all the time among family and friends. I don't know what the issue may be brought to you is, but in this case, this is what she said. My husband left me because he couldn't handle being married to a successful woman.

Now, I just told you, I'm married to a strong woman. And as an opponent, not good. As a teammate, love it. And I said, ma'am, can I pastor you for five minutes?

I took her silence as consent. I said, your success did not cause your divorce. She said, well, what did you think it was?

I said, well, it had a little bit to do with your... And then I stepped back, called security. This is just a protocol that we do. Eagle One, Eagle One is in the lobby.

She started to leave. I said, now wait a second. I need to share with you two of the greatest things I've ever learned that my mentor taught me. me, Dr. Gary Smalley, about anger, and I want to share it with you right now. Number one, unresolved anger is like drinking poison expecting the other person to get sick. I said, ma'am, some people sip this each day, but you're drinking it by the gallons.

I said, this is the same thing. I said, this is the same thing. I said, this is the same thing. second thing is you never bury anger dead you always bury it alive I said and you buried this anger and it's gonna come out in relationships with your children relationships at work or relationships with your second or third husband you can do something about this I noticed it from across the room she said what's that I said the ginormous chip on your shoulder I go, you've got to do something with it.

I don't know who said what to put it there. I don't know how long it's been there, but I've got great news for you. The same power that raised Jesus from the dead is the same power that can raise your lifeless soul. Keeping in mind, I had a book table between us the whole time I was doing this.

It's very important. You've got to have a little bit of a barrier for safety. And she started to calm down just a little bit.

And that, to me, even when you're directing one spouse to speak of the entire marriage, and those who are absent are protected here. In this conversation, I'm only going to be able to talk to you because your husband isn't here. But I can't stay focused on the issue because it isn't about your success, it isn't about money, it isn't about job or career, there's something else going on.

Let's get to the root of that. You never know the whole story. You have to avoid rewriting history or being a part of changing the narrative when one spouse wants to change that narrative.

Every backup singer needs to be an ally for the marriage, not just the spouse. Every spouse, now this is on me, this is on you, needs to turn down bad backup singers and turn up good backup singers. You can work with a couple in counseling.

You can give them all the skills that you have in your arsenal. You can throw it at them and they can begin to see some good positive change. But if you send them back to the same environment or the same voices, the same people speaking into their marriage.

And here's some examples of bad backup singing. I just want you to be happy. You deserve better.

There's someone out there better for you. No one should have to put up with that. You've tried everything to make it work. He or she has changed.

And I always love the flip side of that is he or she won't change. Who is it that you're letting into your marriage and into your life? This is why I'm grateful for folks on the family being a good backup singer to marriages.

Who leads your duet off key? Don't just turn them down. Maybe you need to mute them all together.

Who brings harmony to your marriage? Turn them up. And this may be on Facebook. You just need to start unfriending some folks who just come on to your comments and they have to just spew all of their venom. You have to be very intentional with who you invite onto your team and who the backup singers are.

So in the few moments we have left, I just want to share with you some ways you can identify a great backup singer for your marriage and how all of us. who claim the name of Jesus can be a great backup singer to all of the duets around us, our marriages of our family members and friends and co-workers. Number one, promote and celebrate dating and engagement.

Getting back to that. We do this at our church. I love it.

I've had a couple of times. My favorite time was a lady sent me a letter and she said, you know, I love how you're encouraging the young guys to date and get married. I love that, but don't forget about us old women.

I was like, wow, okay, I love it. She goes, why don't you start finding some dates for the widows in your church? So I stood up one Sunday morning in our congregation and before our congregation, I read this letter from a lady named Deb.

And at the end of reading the letter, she listed all of her assets. I live on the lake, I got a good pension, I got two jet skis. She had it all out there.

And at the end, I simply, in a pastoral tone, asked, where are the men for Deb? And five guys in our first service stood up. The first two guys came forward after the service, hey, can you show us a picture or point Deb out? I'd be happy to.

The third guy walks up, true story, looks over his shoulders, looks at me and says, hey, pastor, do you have a picture of those Sea-Doo's? And I did not introduce him to Deb. But getting back to saying it's a good thing, we rejoice and delight in this.

I have friends that tell me all the time when they tell me they get engaged, I go crazy celebrating with them. And I have, I can't tell you how many couples have told me, you're the only one we know who's excited for us. Really?

Yeah, friends and family are scared to death that we're not ready. Every marriage is a duet in need of great backup singers. It's not just a program we're talking about this morning.

It's about a DNA change in the church. It's about changing the way we think about everybody being equipped. Number two, leverage weddings and funerals.

Leverage weddings and funerals. More people are attending weddings. unchurched are attending weddings and funerals at our church than are actually attending our church. To be able to not just celebrate with couples, hey, you made it, but to tell their story and to share their story.

I want the young couples in our church to talk to grandma and grandpa, to go out on a double date with them, leveraging that. We need to, number three, focus on feelings, not issues, just like that lady who was angry. Let's get to what's really going on.

Let's talk about your heart. Let's talk about unresolved anger. Let's talk about how to, above all else, guard your heart for it is the wellspring of life and how to move on from no longer blaming your ex-husband or blaming the situation of that marriage and moving into the issues of the heart.

Number four, to be a great backup singer, know the resources. Have them ready to go. What small groups to plug into at your church. Send them a video of a sermon. Let them know of a book.

Send them to Marriage 911, which is what our church uses. Let them know about the intensive program that Focus on the Family offers. I mean, all of these resources to have them ready and ready to go. Number five. Don't hit the like button on Facebook when one spouse goes on a rant about the other or shows pictures of a new boyfriend or a new girlfriend.

In the culture that we live in, this dating while divorcing. I haven't even filed the paperwork yet, but I'm dating someone new. It crushes me as a pastor to go on Facebook and to see members of the church, members who've sat under marriage teaching for 10, 15 years, to begin putting lines of bad backup singing on that post. Just want you to be happy.

So glad you're finally happy. And I always say, don't ask me to celebrate a new relationship while I'm still mourning the death of your marriage. Don't hit that like button. Number six, don't let attacks on your past attempts keep you from reaching out now and in the future. Number seven, and finally, don't let anger from a hurting family member or friend or church member.

keep you from loving and caring for them now. Press in, lean in, ask the question, how may I help you? How can I help you?

Rather than, yeah, go talk to that person. Yeah, go do that. You have been, they have come to you. They have a relationship with you.

Leverage that to be a backup singer to that duet. And I wanna close our time sharing with you about one of the greatest backup singers. my wife and I ever had was in her grandparents, Lloyd and Lorraine Freetag.

I got a call one day going into a meeting in Branson that Lloyd had gotten up from the chair and he broke his hip and he broke his leg and he was at St. Mary's Hospital in Rochester, Minnesota and we're in Branson. Amy's parents, Lloyd's son lives in Branson and I told my wife, hey get the kids ready, call your parents, have them be ready in an hour, I'll come home and get you all. They said Lloyd doesn't have much time left, and so we'll drive through the night to say goodbye to Grandpa Lloyd. And we did. We drove through the night.

I'll never forget walking in that day to Lloyd's bedside. And he was on oxygen, and you could tell he was declining quickly. And I'll never forget my father-in-law falling on his dad, blessing his dad.

Kid couldn't ask for a better dad. I love you, Daly. Just speaking words of high value on or over his dad.

And then my wife, Lloyd's. granddaughter falls on him, and then my children, his great-grandchildren, fall on him. I'm the in-law.

I'm like the last to walk up, and Lloyd had a great sense of humor. I walk up to Lloyd's table or to his bed, and the very first thing Lloyd says to me is, Ted, is there anything you can do to speed this up? And I said, well, I guess I could step on some of these hoses and pull some of these plugs, but they frown on that.

And we had such a great day, and I didn't get this with three out of four of my grandparents. I know many of us in this room did not have that opportunity to be at the bedside to say goodbye and to have a prolonged departure from this earth. But it was such a great day.

Lloyd enjoyed it so much he decided he was going to stick around for another day and decided that the next day would be the day. And I remember the doctor coming in while I was standing there saying, Lloyd, we want to put you on dialysis. And he just kind of shook his head and said, no, we're done. We're done.

I'm ready to go be with the Lord. That's where Lloyd was at. I remember we went out to dinner that night and I dropped my father-in-law back off because he wanted to watch one more Minnesota Twins game with his dad. And Lloyd said, come back tomorrow, I'm going to go home. It's time.

I'll never forget going into his hospital room and we prayed together. We took the Lord's Supper together. We sang together.

It sounded horrible. I can't even begin to tell you how bad it sounded. But when we were done with those three things, I'll never forget Lloyd saying, goodbye everyone, I gotta go. And they start shutting off his pacemaker, taking his oxygen out, and he leaned back. And I've been in these situations before to know, as the family members looked on, thinking this could be any moment, I'm going, this could be hours, days, could be weeks.

I'll never forget it. My daughter would sit there most of that afternoon and just rub Lloyd's arm twice during that time. Lloyd came to and I'll never forget his expression he popped up and I remember his expression turned from this to oh Come on, and he went right back to this position and four hours later.

He went to be with the Lord We all were a mess. We just lost a patriarch of our family, a loving, honorable man, and we all walked outside of the room into the hallway. I'll never forget, my daughter was crying, my son Carson, seven at the time, was not, and Corinne says, Carson Matthew Cunningham, why are you the only one in this family not crying? And no kidding, my seven-year-old says, sissy, I have learned to control my emotions. And I'll never forget Lorraine coming out of the room, walking up to me and hugging me and said, Ted, would you do our family the honor of preaching his funeral next week?

And I said, it would be my great honor. And so a week later in Austin, Minnesota, I stood up before about 300 family and friends, and I start every funeral the same. Ecclesiastes 7, verses 1 and 2. A good name is better than fine perfume, and the day of death is better than the day of birth.

For it is better to go to a house of mourning than to a house of feasting, for death is the destiny of every man, and the living should take this to heart. And I said today we're here to take to heart the death of Lloyd Freetag. And the Scripture says it's better to go to a funeral than to go to a party, and the reason for that is because a funeral is a recalibrating event.

A funeral should change the way you think, and it should change the way you live. I don't get that at a party. I don't walk away from a party ever going, well, that changed my life.

It was good fellowship. It was good medicine as we laughed together. But at a funeral, and I've sat there in 20 years of pastoral ministry, I've sat at a funeral of a child who died from SIDS.

And I sit there, this is why going to a funeral is better than going to a party, because I sit there and I think about this family who has lost their child. And I think, you know, the day before, how ridiculous was it? that I got on my kids for making a mess and splashing around too much in the bathtub. See, that's what a funeral begins to bring up those questions. A funeral begins to say, I'm not living the right way.

I need to change some things. And I'm going to go home today and I'm going to teach my kids how to use the toilet as a diving board into the bathtub. I said, today we're here to take to heart the death of Lloyd Freetag.

Let's talk about Lloyd. I said, here is a man that went, when he was just a boy, halfway around the world to literally save the world for us in World War II in the Navy. He came back.

He meets this fiery redhead named Lorraine, and they go on a date. He invites her on a date on a Saturday night. Date went so well, at the end of that date, invited her on a second date. On the second date, the next Saturday night, he asked, are we going to get serious or what?

And she said, what do you mean? do you want to get married? Second date came a proposal, and she said yes.

And before Lloyd went to be with the Lord, they celebrated 65 years of marriage. He worked at a Hormel meatpacking plant for 42 years. So he knew something about commitment, loyalty, duty, sacrifice, and honor.

And I'm looking around the room at many marriages of family and friends gathered around the room. I said, today, taking to heart. The death of Lloyd Freetag means we do something with what we're learning today about his life. This man loved his Lord, served his church faithfully, served his wife faithfully, served his family faithfully, and today we get to take to heart that message for us.

We're all a mess. We go graveside, and I'll never forget my wife's uncle. Uncle Wayne comes up to me graveside, and he said, Ted, would you promise me one thing? I said, what's that?

He goes, will you preach a funeral that good for me one day? And I looked right at him and said, you got some work to do. Don't we all?

Don't we all? We have great models all around us to lead us and to guide us and to encourage us and to challenge us in our marriages. The second challenge today, though, is that we would be that person to inspire and encourage the couples all around us.

Every marriage is a duet in need of great backup singers, and my prayer for you is that you would be that great backup singer. Thank you very much, Focus, for allowing me to speak today. What a wonderful message from Ted, and I love that story about Lloyd and Lorraine and their loving long-term marriage.

What a great goal for all of us. And what a terrific example for our children and our grandchildren. You know, we as Christians should be the most consistent supporters of the marriages around us. Let's make an effort to support the marriages of our family members, friends, and the wider community. And let me just remind you, Focus on the Family is here to help.

We are a pro-marriage ministry. Over the past year, Focus has helped over 500,000 couples. build a stronger, more satisfying marriage.

And over 100,000 say that Focus helped them through a major marital crisis just in the past year. And that is thanks to donors like you who are helping to support our counseling team and our Hope Restored four-day intensive. When we follow up with those intensive couples two years later, over 80% say their marriage is doing very well.

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And when you make a pledge of any amount, we'll send you a copy of Ted's latest book, published by Focus on the Family. It's called A Love That Laughs, Lighten Up, Cut Loose, and Enjoy Life Together. And if you can't commit to a monthly pledge right now, We understand that.

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