everyone I've talked to about you describes you as a taste maker work really hard and play really hard where did everyone lose their backbone saddle the up what point do you realize that you can monetize off your eye maybe I'll cheat on him first by the way don't with Pia we're talking about on a white couch I don't like to my couch is white and what color is it well I have three dogs so it's like a gray Navy it's Jenny Kane it's not black that's good you don't want black Michael had Black Sheets when he first started dating me okay first of all horrific I was ew Crunchy Black Sheets I was were fake silk no those sheets were ranched I was like I'm not sleeping in this bed get rid of these sheets what are you doing like I think I went down to like Dillards or whatever it was in Arizona and got like fake silk sheets I thought I thought the girls I was like the girls are going to love this no girl loved it not one girl boys beds are so disgusting they have like two flat lame pillows they're like I called his pillows when I first started dating him they're like literally origami paper oh my God yeah it's horrific they need a lot of work DAV had a good setup when we were dating it felt comfortable there yeah well he's he is like what a guy like me would look to to like kind of like figure out how to do it as a as a guy like when I see your husband I'm like oh like he's like he's got the linen game down thank you you know what I mean okay yeah he does we need to go through the whole thing talk to us about what you were like as a child what would your mom say it's pretty much like I am now like a very loud and attention seeking I was very like I started talking at 6 months which after having a kid isn't it so weird to think about that like a six-month old like barely like kids talk at one but what what do you mean like talking like hi Mama Hi D wow and I would say in when she would take me to the store I would say to people walking by Hi man I love you hi woman I love you and people would think it was so odd cuz I was so little so I was always very I really like people and talking to people so I've always been that way and what were you like in high school the same I was Student Activities director freshman Year to my senior year I did the Morning News every morning but it was always like bad at SCH have you seen Rushmore no it's a really good West Anderson film it's like one of his really early films was it the first one no he did like bottle rocket but like um it's a really funny movie and it's about this kid who goes to a private school and he has horrible grades they have to like kick him out of school but he's the president of like every club and that was me you had horrible grades but were the president yeah I I was like just like social and I did Student Activity you know I was did Student Activities I did the paper I was in a bunch of clubs I was like really social and really active but I had just like you know I was like a here in there and like bees and C's at what point do you know that you have this creativity to you how much really little but my dad was really interesting because he was a football player and a dentist and an artist so he had like I know so odd um and so the the creativity aspect was always really encouraged but there's a huge age gap between my siblings and I my dad was married first and had three kids or married before he married my mom and had three kids and he was much more Stern with them in terms of them having to play sports and get good grades and all of that and he was much older when I was born and so was talking about this last night with my husband actually so there was much more I was I the openness for me to be extremely exploratory um and not like grade driven I wish they were more grade driven with me actually because I didn't really like develop any I still am pissed about it I don't have like like there are times where I have to do something for work and I'm like oh this feels like I'm in high school and it's [ __ ] homework and I just don't have like this skill set or like the patience to do homework yeah but I look at that and I'm like they let you lean into what you're good at totally he was like whatever you want to do I love you my brothers were like what it makes sense though like by by let's be honest the first born like does get the full attention of the parent like well no I think about like it's not even just it's not just that but it's like the age my dad my sister is almost 10 years younger than me my youngest sister yeah hi and I feel like and I will say to her like the way she we we were parented same household and all that but you're raed different just different because yeah I mean there's like a 10e gap 10 tired years of years yeah they're just like done what's the first moment that you remember getting your hands on something fashion oh I was young my mom was never my mom's very beautiful and very elegant but she never shops she's a TJ Maxx girl she does her own nail she does her own hair she doesn't spend a penny on herself ever and I would be like we need to go shopping like you need to buy like there used to be this store called ghost on Robertson and I was like we need you need like ghost in your closet and she'd be like how do you [ __ ] know about that like so I had a job in eighth grade uh folding clothes at a store as soon as I could work I wanted to work everyone I've talked to about you describes you as a taste maker was that something that you were when you were younger I had a group of girlfriends that was definitely very like fashion forward like as soon as we got our licenses you know we grew up I grew up in pasaden and I'm still there so it's 45 minutes away from here so when we turned 16 and we could drive over here it was just constant but this was like la like West Hollywood Melrose Robertson it was Peak this is early 2000s which is what everyone's dressing like right now which is [ __ ] hilarious so it was like Lindsay Lohan like Paris Hilton's everywhere everyone's famous every Boutique was packed with the coolest clothes young Brands cool designers like Madison on Robertson you'd walk in and it would just be like you would like knew the sales people people like Ron Herman Fred seagull it was just this explosion and so we'd go thrift shopping we would I mean we were just over on melr all the [ __ ] time remember when there was Lisa Klein and member across was kitson I remember coming to LA and it had like this magical Essence deina was there I mean there was Madison was right next door to kitson it was crazy it was so you would dress up and like shop and then go to like a lunch and like it was just so cool it was so cool what was it like growing up in La I grew up in Pasadena is very different from La I love Pasadena why I will say that it's uh it's a lot of like over on this side I hate [ __ ] generalizing just you can girls over here on the West side I think had a little bit had more freedom you know there were girls that were in like rehab in high school that really wasn't like a thing for it was just slower it's a much there's a lot of old money in Pasadena um so you know being super flaunty it was something that was like Frozen in time in some ways yeah totally but I love that that's why I like it over there and my parents were you know I was like solid middle class you know like my dad was a dentist he only ever had like used cars he never had a nice watch or anything but we all went to private school and I was just like loved stuff I was just like I need that but not even I was like not even like I need like designer things but I was like I love vintage and I just would like put things together I mean also sex in the city was out you know that's like what that was like my Bible so it sounds like you always had an eye what point do you realize that you can monetize off your eye it kind of happened by accident when I got into Parsons like applying to school was the hardest fashion school to get into it was a very weird time because this is when it just got really hard to get in this is like the beginning of it getting really hard to get into college like USC for my brother was like everyone got into USC you know and then by the time I was senior in high school it was like they wanted to become like an Ivy League school so I always thought oh I'd go to SC like my brothers and my dad didn't it would be no big deal and then they were like yeah no like you need to go to like a UC school first and transfer in because your grades aren't good and so I was like I got to lean into like being Arty like you know going a a creative route and don't think that I mean I remember my college counselor being like this is going to be tough like because you have a lot of great activities but like your grades aren't very good and you know people really want good grades and so getting into the new I got into the new school for Eugene Lang I was doing like media and Communications first and then transferred into Parsons for marketing um and when I got to New York I was like ah okay like this is my place you know I miss I wish I still lived there I miss it every day the first what's the first thing you monetize off of like how do you know you to blog what's called fighting the war against blowing it really is that really the name yeah because I was like when you move to New York all it's every day it's like how can you blow it like because you're walking to class but then you run into someone and they're like there's this party happening or this or you're hung over like there's just so many distractions so I felt like every day was this battle to not like [ __ ] up school or like you know [ __ ] the wrong person or get two drunk or like whatever because there was just like it was just like adult Disneyland all of a sudden you know it was 18 from an all girl Catholic High School and then I'm like in New York on my own it was crazy so what's the first piece that you make clo I didn't get into designing clothes until I was at Reformation I did PR I did production I did photo shoots I did like I mean my favorite job was being a waitress but I like I did all the things I did tons of marketing I threw hu I I worked at people's Revolution like I was on the back end of everything I started designing when I was at Reformation because I I knew knew the customer so well and I was the customer so intensely that they were like you should probably start designing like sit in on some design meetings and then I became the designer before we get into Reformation you have to tell me how it was working with uh Kelly how do you say her last name Kelly katro yeah yeah it was like everything you I've read all her books is it everything that I think it is yeah yeah yeah it was it amazing yeah it was incredible I mean we would like smoke in the office when everyone would leave it was so much caffeine it was like staying up up pulling all nighters I lived upstairs in the show in the back of the showroom people like uh maybe they demonize some of those experiences now but I think they're to your point like they I have a very hard time with those experiences being extremely demonized now but here's also the thing meaning you don't like when it's demonized or you I don't like when it's demonized because I'm like where did everyone lose their [ __ ] backbone but I also understand I'm saying that as somebody who has a very strong personality and is not sensitive and loves to be pushed we have to you have to caveat everything now I hate it it's by the way I'm not going to caveat caveat it I am just like you I think like you do when you're going into the real world and you're working for someone like her like saddle the [ __ ] up pull your bootstraps on when I hear people talking about like balance and they're like just getting out of college and they're like got all this I'm like listen you're only going to have less energy as this goes on no I can't believe what I accomplished with no sleep because I would work all day and then we'd be like you know the Soho Grand was across the street and we did their PR so we got like free drinks at the Soho Grand and so it's just like you know you're like your cortisol you're just like running on a drin and then you're getting like [ __ ] up and then there's like oh this part is happening and then you're like home at 5: but then it's like oh I got to be in the office at 9:00 and then you half the fun in my opinion it was [ __ ] inred like oh my God I was on a [ __ ] Bender I'm throwing up on the way to the office being still drunk the next morning it work was so [ __ ] at some point you just get like really giggly before the like same day hangover hits it I don't like how people are so responsible these days I like I like you know like [ __ ] you are literally the most responsible I had three drinks last night and he was like oh my God yeah you've gotten very responsible so responsible I am now but I'm almost 40 but back then I was not I was like well because the recovery time is like I just think that more young people should embrace that chaotic time you have to well everyone so scared and calculate I mean everyone's just worrying themselves you have the rest I mean listen we all have kids now you have the rest of the time be like a well adjusted adult like I love that for the first like 10 years of my career it was just a [ __ ] silk fake C filled [ __ ] we would just we would just shake those things dry what if you had to say three things that you learned from Kelly what are they um to I mean to not be sensitive oh great which is like um to to you know I think we've all lost this ability to like quickly pivot and problem solve very quickly so I learned how to problem solve very intensely um what else to like like to get like more [ __ ] it in your system to have like like work really hard and play really hard cuz that was so fun it was so great she was it was like after her book came like the hills had just finished filming there so I was like right after that wave so there were people like outside of the office like and she would be she'd be like walking around like I'm New York Times best selling author Kelly you know I mean it was like she was like such a staple in the neighborhood she you know what I liked about her I worked for Robin Berkeley part who was who I'm still very close with who's an incredible publicist now she owns up BR live the process and kelly didn't want her to she was like I got to get out of here and her amazing assistant Grace had just quit Grace now runs a huge production company uh PR Company who's incredible and Grace was like beautiful and so experienced and very professional and like the perfect PR girl and I had never done PR before and Kelly hired me because she's like I like your energy because I had interned for at The Roosevelt Hotel there was like the I think it was like maybe like the Teen Choice Awards there was like some event and people's Revolution was doing the carpet and I was like I really I was like I want to intern and I had happened to be in La even though you know whatever they're based in New York and I said I'll work the event and Kelly said have you ever run a carpet before and I said no she's like I think you can figure it out I was like I think I can too and so I organized the carpet and would tell the celebrities when to walk and announce them to people and I ran that whole [ __ ] thing had never having doing it so smoothly and at the end of the night she was like you're [ __ ] hired and I was like great she and then she was like are you a Scorpio and I was like okay she's like me too she's like you're definitely hired and then I get to the office and Robin is like H's like this is your new assistant and Robin's like I'm sorry this girl has no [ __ ] experience like you're giving she's like I'm a high level publicist and you're giving me someone who's never done PR she's like do you know any of the editors and I was like No And she was like oh my [ __ ] god and she trained the [ __ ] out of me would scream at me ac I would make huge mistakes and she would scream at me across the office but sometimes you have to get thrown in the deep end I feel it was amazing yeah yeah it's so good for you this episode is brought to you by nurx one thing that I love is treatments and care that are personalized to me or personalized to you I just love personalization so let me tell you about nurx nurx is a digital healthc care platform that makes it easy to get expert health care that you deserve at every step of your journey so obviously we all go through life's changes and Transitions and nurx is here to help you make informed choices about your health with care offerings like birth control even anti aging prescription skin care and treatments for common mental health concerns so everything is basically tailored to your unique health history and 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the podcast and I was like really like I don't want to bother you if I were to put my dear media hat on right now I'd be giving you a lot of [ __ ] like get these [ __ ] people on your podcast I know I know I just go through who's ordered your stuff yeah I know I need to I I just feel bad asking people I'm really not good at do my husband's horrible at this we never like tap into our Network that much no but I okay I get that we are careful as well to not take advantage you don't want to be a hungry tiger no but like I think there's a way to approach I mean you know there's a way to do it without taking your best friend that you're on vacation with I I would feel so weird putting someone in that position if they were like oh I don't want to be yeah you know what I mean I don't know I get it I get it okay so when you're at you're at Reformation you're designing there were your designs super popular at Reformation oh yeah my God so did you I guess what I want to ask is was Reformation valuing you and your designs or did so they valued she hired me when I was at people's Revolution to do in-house PR for reformation and there was like eight employees in New York damn it was super super now so we can get contacts like hundreds well thousands if you're including like the people who make the clo yeah I mean hundreds I mean it's a huge what they've done what she sent but the company's incredible um and so I mean I started their Instagram and the hashtag ra babe and like all of that and I worked in the store so I could get photos of the you I could like get to know the customer more I was the brand manager at one time that was my title was like brand manager I threw the events like I remember the first sale I remember posting something on the Instagram and then somebody bought something and Kim there was a girl named Kim and a girl named Ana who I love and I still talk to you I don't talk to but we definitely talk on Instagram a lot and and Kim was like okay we have an order and we were like okay and we like watched her like take the dress off the shelf and like pack it up and we were like okay we're going to like ship the order like this is crazy we had a fake email called it was like Alex at the Reformation because we wanted it to seem really person the customer service experience to feel really personal so they were like oh it the whole thing was just really incredible and then and then I got and then I left for a minute and then they asked me to come back and my role when I came back was just to be a designer and at that point it was like a more wellestablished why did you leave the first time around you know what I didn't I was so young that I didn't advocate for myself financially enough and I just kept hearing like one of my professors in my head saying like you're never going to you know if you start at a certain salary you're never going to grow like 15% you know like and and I was like I'm not I was like I started at such a low salary because I was so young and I didn't deserve a higher salary so it was fair but I was like if I don't leave here I'm never going to make the money that I want to make and so so it was ended up being this amazing thing where I left and then they missed me and then I was able to like negotiate good terms when I went back and I think this is important to say just for Michael if you don't have context Reformation at the time was insane like it's amazing now too I'm just saying at the time it there wasn't a million Brands it was like the brand Michael it was like every cool girl was wearing it I just want to know for context as you're talking I'm so bad about this oh my God I mean this was probably like 15 years ago it was like like this is like 10 year 12 years ago compare it to like now it's I guess it's hard I don't know cuz there's so many Brands now and they're all really specific and have their own custo it was like you wore Reformation especially in New York like we would walk down and the clothes were so sexy and it would be like so hot in the summer and we all had these like you would just see these girls like cascading down the street in these like billowing dresses with their backs open and cleavage out and their like ref tote bags and we'd be like look what we did like this is [ __ ] incredible you felt responsible for making feel like hot and confident it was really cool it's amazing when did you decide to Branch off on your own and what did that look like it was so I had a boyfriend so I have now moved to LA and I had a boyfriend that I knew in my gut I wasn't going to end up with why we just like fought a lot it just wasn't like this deep I can't live without you love he like liked me and I felt Chosen and I was I was like o cool like and then we moved in together and the house was great and we had dogs and it felt like impossible to leave that just like you know and I was like 26 and so I'm like this is the time where I should find somebody I should marry and I like his family a lot and um what happened to him uh I know I nothing he's doing exactly the same [ __ ] he was doing when we broke up nothing has progressed actually which um that's what happens when you break up with P know I really don't want to speak poorly about somebody else um kind of just did but um and so I had gotten an email from Zara that said we see your work at Reformation we're hiring we'd love to meet you and I remember telling him and I remember him saying oh my God this is amazing we could move to Spain and I thought to myself I can't move to Spain with you like you know you know it was like one of I was like if it was this this aha moment that it wasn't like yeah you're my person forever like we can Take On The World Together what the hell was he going to do he's just like go with you to Spain while fig I was just like I'm not even I just so I didn't take the interview because I was like if I got the job I would either have we' have you know I was just I was like I'm not ready to like deal with that and then we broke up and when we broke up I reached out to them and I said I would love to interview so I go to Spain and then I was like okay I'm in Europe I want to go to Italy I so and I'd never been to Italy I was God 26 or something probably yeah and I could never have afforded to go you know so I was like I called one of my girlfriends and I was like do you want to meet me in Italy and go a girl trip she had gone to an influencer event for revolve in the Hampton and so they booked her flight instead of booking her go to back to LA to meet me and so they said she was at the the event and Risa who is the CMO of revolve was there and she said oh I saw that we booked your flight to Italy like what are you doing and she was like oh I'm going to meet my friend Pia She interviewed at Spain or She interviewed at Zara in Spain and so we're going to go have like a little girls trip and Risa was like wait she's interviewing like I never would have assumed she would leave Reformation like we want to work with her so when I landed in Naples and we went to a mfie which by the way is like so funny cuz a mfie when you don't have a lot of money is so hard to navigate lot of hiking and so much hiking and everything is American prices times 100 and it's hot and sweaty and so thank God we met a bunch of boys who kept like buying our meals cuz I was like I would have run out of money after like 24 hours see I just want to tell you girl something so you both understand the struggle on this side there is no version where me and Taylor hike over to a MAF and a bunch of girls are like hey hey boys let me just pay for your trip through Italy getting a little pay from a guy I never I've never had a boyfriend I've never no one's ever bought me a flight no one's ever bought me a bag no one's ever I've never but I was like I'll take these free meals like whatever so she was like as soon as we landed we like sat down and had pizza and she was like do you want me to connect you and I was like holy [ __ ] that's a kind of incredible like yeah please and so I got back and I met with her and Risa was like we have our own in-house Brands now and they're doing really really well and we'd love for you to be the creative director of a brand at revolve and I was like oh my God and I had also gotten the job at Zara in the meantime so I spent like a month and a half talking to like every psychic and getting advice from everybody possible to pick do I stay here and launch a brand or do I move to Spain to to have revolve come to you at that young of an age and say we want you to have an in-house brand with us is [ __ ] wild also at the time they did they didn't have brands with big INF influencers now it's funny cuz I'm the only person who's like not famous that has a brand with them where it's like the most famous people and then it's like I'm like hey like here's my brand too you know which is like gets hard because it's like I can't push product the same way that like Elsa can push product or like Camila or something they have millions and millions of followers um so it was at the time it was I mean the I remember just I was single I just met Dobby day we were like off and on and did you meet him here here or in Italy I'm he was living in New York at the time he was working for Bello coell didn't meet him when you went over there oh he was working at Bello yeah we almost moved to Umbria and worked I didn't know that oh his whole life is Brunello yeah we're still really close with the family mhm wait so when you met him did you like him right away he was such a Brunello dude like I mean he dm'd me on Instagram and then we talked for a month and then we met in person he dm' you on Instagram what does he say you look interesting oh that is the way you DM his English was that gives me chills that is hot you look interesting because you know why that's so hot is he's saying I look interesting because he thinks I'm hot he thinks I'm smart he thinks I'm interesting you want to DM a girl guys that's what you do think interesting is the best thing I've ever heard he only learned English like 12 years ago so this was a couple years into speaking so I think it was also like a direct translation from something in Italian I think it's beautiful that was I feel like you need to get that tattooed on your ass and I didn't oh you look interesting that would be very fun for him you're actually like I'm really thinking about it like imagine it on the couch yeah yeah yeah with your mom watching oh God okay so you when he says you look interesting what did you say back I ignored it for a while because I looked at his page and it was all these photos of him like he didn't have he wasn't posting very much by any mean so it was only a few photos but it was him and like you know what Brunell it's like head to toe he has like a vest and a thing and and a and a jacket over his shoulder and a [ __ ] hat and the thing and and it was all like photos of him at like pity lovo and like what was he doing there was he a lot of stuff but he basically did um he worked he would he would go back often to work in the style office to help like put together collections but then when he was in the US he did every popup he would oversee the buy for all the department stores he would go do the buy with everybody he was like all the high-end clients he would help D I mean he did like he was kind of like a Pia like they were like oh we're going to dress Daniel Craig like send dbby day like oh this this store in Toronto needs to know how to merchandise the clothes like sendi you know he was like all over the place I mean he was on like four planes a week um and his accent was very thick and I was just I had dated like skateboarders and streetwear dudes and I was just like this is like out of my and I always grew up being like I'm Italian cuz I'm like American Italian and I was like that's like a real Italian person like that's like out of my wheelhouse and then and then I was an Austin for my friend Aaron's birthday and I was drunk and I was smoking a cigarette and nice I was I outside and I and he had followed up with the DM he said and complicated I guess cuz I hadn't answered hot GH o so I was like what I'm not complicated you know so then I wrote back and he was like God and then he was like gotcha listen I've had a long day at work like if you want to talk feel free to call me and like send his number and I was like what this guy is smooth yeah but I told you I can look from a distance sometimes and see certain people certain men I'm like I I don't never even met him and I can tell that's so cute to right and complicated and then okay so you should get you look interesting on your ass and then he should get dot dot dot and complicated on his that's so cute know it's really it's so crazy that it went from that to us like I mean that his child is in my stomach right now way to put it so so when you're with someone that has such an eye like you are you guys just like creative creative all day long is that how it is I mean is that challenging cuz Lauren and I think about this all the time our brains like we're very value line SYM like symbiotic in a lot of ways but we're kind of different sides but it feels in a lot both like only creative it's really crazy like we I had a meeting with this guy who's doing the numbers for my barini deck and he wants to help David with stuff too and he's like so how many um he was like yeah give me the log to your Shopify and then give me a log to whatever like you know newsletter program you guys are using and we're were like oh we don't do newsletters and he was like well how are you acquiring your customers and how are you like maintaining your customers and we were like we don't do that he's like you have no new customer and I was like no like I was like we don't put any like we're the worst like we don't do any marketing do you guys have a team around you that helps nothing it's you two yeah I like the honesty of that though because I I think I'm raising money to build a team and I the first thing I'll do is hire a CEO and I'll hire out a full and I won't be the one like I know what I'm not good at yeah and it's building strategy and hiring and knowing who I need to know and Logistics right so that's the first thing I'll set up is have somebody that knows to set up the like you'll enjoy probably everything a lot more once you get all those heada yeah I don't need to be a hero and pretend like I and doid is a very like old school Italian like slow growth kind of guy now our arguments are never creative our arguments are me being like let's [ __ ] go dude like just because you don't know how to do something doesn't mean you need to be scared of it and against it like we need a [ __ ] newsletter like you need to be following up with your customers you he's like they don't where to find me like and and it's working like people go to him and his clothes sell like [ __ ] crazy I know now I'm like I want to go shop him and we're at the point where we can't promote his brand any more than we are because we'll run out of inventory and the inventory is expensive he makes really highend close so we need to raise money for him to have but you know I think this is like so important to talk about because I think sometimes people take their passions and they turn it into a job that feels restrictive and takes their creativity away and takes their inspiration like if it if it's working which it sounds like it is and he's happy and you're building something that's meaningful and we you talked about this on stage at DML like I think sometimes people they get so like go go go go go and then they like take the spark and joy out of the stuff that they're doing yeah and I think for me especially like seeing so many Brands especially like Italian inspired Brands launch and I'm like [ __ ] like we you know I've been I've had every skew for Baron Chini designed for like four and a half years I just haven't had the money to do it and you know the timing hasn't aligned right and whatever like timing is [ __ ] everything so I completely know that like all the things that set us back this whole time is just because of divine timing but I I have had to be very diligent about not looking at what other people are doing and being like they're [ __ ] lapping us like that was supposed to be something we were doing but then I just see all these Brands and it's just what we've done to ourselves and each other it's like what's new what's happening what's the next event and it's like these events that happened that everyone puts all this money it's like okay people show up they get their they post their thing and then it just like goes away yeah you know everything just seems like so fast and quick and like we definitely just want to be Heritage but want both of the brands to be like extremely Heritage so I think that it's the taurtis in the hair yeah like I think about this all the time if you want to have longevity in this business you have to be methodical and thoughtful with your moves and yes there is something to to being Swift but I do think it's nice to take the Italian way and mesh it with the American way Dobby day doesn't have extreme financial goals he's like the fact that we can live in this house I can have this store that we have cars that we have our children that he's like I'm fine he's like I'm done here you know what I mean he's like I've made it you know he grew up without hot water so he's like this is it like I and I'm like totally but also you don't manage the finances and so we need like a little if there's going to be like two kids and like but also he's like then we move like we don't need to be in I he's right though he he's it's it's the it's so beautifully grounded no no no it's funny because I think about it now at this stage in my life in terms of like the games you enjoy playing and I think people really [ __ ] this up where it's like the the type of work that I do I enjoy the challenge of seeing if I can build a bigger puzzle that I can then like it's not it Finance financials are like kind of a byproduct sometimes of that but for me it's like the game is what I enjoy not not the stuff if I didn't like you want to I always tell people like I don't ever want to get to a point where I'm doing something and it's a headache and I don't like my partners or I don't like the business or I don't like What's going at that point I would honestly people don't realize that I just walk away like it has to be an enjoyable process are lucky to be friends with so many people who are super entrepreneurial and have reached many levels of success and the money in your bank account doesn't it truly doesn't make you happier really diminish you have people you know they don't like people who have friendships weird it makes people jealous like I already feel a lot of negativity toward towards us with like just us loving each other the way that we like you know it's just like it's hard for people who are working towards making more money to hear somebody who they perceived have money talk about money actually having diminishing returns like there's I we all know many people with a lot of money that are the most miserable people on the planet right like it and I think people say that's easy for you to say if some if you have money but I think if like the money is the only thing that's the byproduct of whatever you're putting out into the world like you're you're going to slowly over time get less and less enjoyment from that he knows once he gets the right partner and Mo and stores open like if he's in the store like the money that people spend shopping with him is so it's like they love him they trust him they're buying these beautiful garments we know the names of all the people who make these clothes like it's such a special brand and New York will be next and we've like done the math it's like if what he's doing in Pasadena translates to like New York like it'll be like a $10 million brand a year you know and so but what it'll do is take him away from us and he'll have to work you know five times it's hard and he's really happy in this little pocket right now and he knows that it's a shortlived until like the next step and he's aware that the next steps of his brand are going to flatten him out a lot you know it's going to stretch him really thin until he gets to the point he always tells this amazing story where he's like it's like a Italian I don't know he he he'll say it in Italian and then he'll translate to me and it's really beautiful but like a man is fishing at a lake or something and it's like on his property and this guy comes and he's like you know like you have more fish in your Lake than anybody else like if you if you do a big net and fish the fish then you could sell it at the market and you could build a business and and it's like and it'll be like and then the next step will be this and then the next step will be this and then the next step will be this and then the guy's sitting there fishing and goes and what'll be the end and then he's like then you don't have to work anymore and you can relax all day what would you do then he goes I would sit here and fish yeah so he's like he like I would be exactly back to where am so do is like why do I need to like but I do think there's also something when you are extremely creative and you have so much inside of you and you just have to show it to the world that's a different thing and so he's like I have the collection in my head I know what the New York store would look like I know what the ask my art is not being seen to the degree that I want it to be seen that's that's where he's just like I I want my talent to have the respect and to be able to reach larger audiences it's like the untapped potential that you just you can't you can't 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a girl from high school like asked me if you guys are really like this or if you put on like a sh you know I've read enough no your life looks very romantic I don't anymore because because it's so disgusting and I've also realized these people are like actually my super fans and it's incredibly creepy but like and I'm like why do I even have [ __ ] like I just am like I don't understand why people [ __ ] care so much but the the the madeup narrative that we don't really love each other and there's no way that this is real is really intense it's [ __ ] crazy like there [ __ ] that and I'm like why would I like they're like he's not even really that Italian and there's no way and like someone said someone said something like really kind you know cuz I always bring up that do like slept with a lot of girls before we met and I slept with a lot of dudes and I bring that up often not to be little anybody but almost to be like we've had so much experience before we met each other that we got so much out of our systems that like there wasn't like one more concert or one more trip or one more dude I needed like and same with him like we we felt like we did it all and some girl was like the way you talk about it like aren't you concerned he's going to go cheat on you and I'm like why would you want that for me like maybe I'll cheat on him first by the way like but also like it's just so I I feel I would talk about it with my mom all the time I'm like I don't want to post our lives so much online because it almost is like I don't want to bring more people that are like this is you know almost like attracts this like negativity but then I'm also like why are we not celebrating that two people love each other you know it's it's a hard one because it's like you want to protect your peace and your your area that's so intimate from all these naysayers but at the same time you want like you said you want to share it I think what it is it's hard showing too much joy in this day and age because people really don't like to see people being joyful no they don't I'm actually not kidding no no no I I I I I feel that and I experience it often through my phone so people are like I want you to be happy as happy as I am so happy but not happier than me yeah yeah it's like that I think you're wealthy in love and I think that that brings up things for people that maybe they don't feel they're wealthy in love what I've realized is there's two reasons haters comment they're projecting MH or they want to be acknowledged yeah totally and let me tell you when you acknowledge them they back down I know it's really crazy it's very interesting and and I'm telling you it's always two camps it's projection so like they're mad about something going on in their life or they just want your attention yeah well early days you know and we've been we've all kind of been swimming in these waters for a long I mean we're going to age all of ourselves but it's been a while now right in early days I used to like think about this so get rattled but now I really like I can understand if someone is maybe not where they want to be in life and they see someone who they perceive to be annoying yeah that or like makes it's it's something that like it hits a nerve where they feel like they're not I I mean I see stuff all time so far from my comprehension because if someone bothers me online I just do a quick mute and I keep it moving I don't have the energy the bandwidth to care I I really it would take so much to bother me I'm so proud of that it really takes so much to bother me I don't Fest around things I don't give a [ __ ] [ __ ] so to see this intensity around something that I'm doing because I don't have that for anybody else it's really hard for me to understand yeah but I think it's because all of us have been you've seen so much you've seen our friends go 40 too you know I've had like life experience yeah I just I'm at the point I'm like I just really like I'm sorry you feel that way about something we did or said by the way if one day we get to the point where we divorce that will be something that happens and we'll both be better off for it later and then we'll reup and have other PE you know what I mean it's like life comes in chapter like who [ __ ] knows my husband is not somebody who believes in divorce and I'm always like we're [ __ ] if we ever want to break up because we are very intertwined you're locked in now you got you guys are codependent like me and Michael said in the elevator yesterday she's like you and Michael are so codependent and I was like we are aren't we my God we talk every like 15 minute like we're like if yeah when he like started work when he opened the store and he wasn't we were both weren't working from home anymore it was like really hard on us that we were away from each other during the day I think what it is Michael and I like this too we like to be together God forbid you like your wife or husband I like to be I like know I really like being around him like I don't think that's that hard to understand on trips and there's tons of like whenever it's just like the three of I cried so hard our last night on this last trip cuz we were in the back of a taxi and Carmella's next to us and like she was in she's such a good girl and I like have we had we each had our arm around her in the middle of this like taxi in Spain and I just was like this is the last time it's going to be the three of us like like so you know and I was like such a pod like you know we even like I don't know we like recently went on a trip and it was really hard we we brought her and then we were like no one else had kids and we ended up like road tripping somewhere else cuz I was like it was too hard to like navigate like a group of people who wanted to do things we couldn't do with her but then like then we're at dinner that night and I was like I love just being with you you know like it's just so nice like I said it on the trip we had moments where it was there was a lot of people with us and we got in the car and he looked at me he goes it's nice and it's just the two of us and Carmel I said I know it's always just good when it's you know cuz we're just like we love each other why do you think I moved off atin I understand everything you're saying sometimes like we're in a world that's so much stimulus all the time that the fact that I and I relate to you on this that I can go home with my little family and just sort of disappear in Austin get it we're very similar to you guys we're like listen there's this and we're on the podcast there's all this going around you guys live in this world but at the end of the day it's Lauren and I and the kids and that's and like that I think what people don't like that's the life that we're building and I'm not naive enough to think like we're going to be doing this for 56 years at the end of the day like this is the our relationship will hit moments I mean I can imagine this is the beginning of our life right I always think about blow how at the beginning of blow like Johnny Depp's like I made my money I found my girl I'm having my kid like this is it and then his life implodes like there's never going to be a moment where you're like ah this is it like everything is going to keep moving but like where we are I mean I wake up every morning and he kisses my feet and he tells me like I woke up yesterday I know don't get mad at my sorry up wait you know what actually K my feet every morning and then yesterday he said you I was half asleep and he looked at me and he said I always I cry he said I always wondered how my parents could be together for 50 years and not get sick of each other and now I know how you know what okay now we're going too far but that's his love language is is very over the top start crying over something I did you can say a couple things like that to me and I'd like my feet kissed start crying like about me and we'll talk about it Michael you you could take a hint no this is not we're changing the so what happened what what happened to your Italian what happened when you got happened when we got a lot happened when D and I got together like my dad he moved he gave up his job and he moved to Ella he gave up his dream job of Brunell we're supposed to move to Umbria I'm like I'm not moving to a town of 400 people where is Umbria the middle of Italy it's where he makes his clothes um it's beautiful but it's really what's the what's the nearest l City no Michael let her finish her romantic story no do not keep going Pia I think it's like 3 hours to Milan I'm ful F to get you off that romance stuff keep going keep um he and then he he packed up a suburban and drove cross country in like three days and then and he was so my dad and him were so in love with each other on such a deep connected soul level like they were both like we knew each other in another lifetime like and then my dad dropped dead at dinner 2 weeks later and do like held my dead dad and looked at my mom and said I got you guys I got you guys okay like I'm not and then we like moved into that house and then we got married the we were supposed to get married that Friday at the courthouse have a stroke what happened he had a heart attack and but he was sick which is why I moved back anyway and then we were supposed to get married with my dad that Friday just Courthouse cuz D had given up his job at ber so his Visa was gone you know so we were like need to quickly get married we'll like we'll do cute Beverly Hills and then go to lunch so he died at Sunday dinner and the next Sunday dinner we did we got married in the yard and we made lasagna and had our family over and it was weird but ended up being like really beautiful because it was everything was so sad and then it got so positive and then when we started his green card process then we found out that his mom was had cancer and so we got and it we got we had to like go beg to get this like two two we um like emergency cuz you know when you when your green card process you can't leave for like a year so we go to Italy we spend two weeks in the hospital with her that I could write a [ __ ] book about because they don't tell you when you're dying in Italy and then someone accidentally told her and she was like what like I thought I was just here tempor it was [ __ ] crazy and then when he said goodbye to her he knew he'd probably never [ __ ] see her again but he had to leave and his mom was his whole life like when we were broken up once we weren't talking and I was like I love him I got to be with this guy and I talked to my like psychic and she was like he's your person I was like do I just give up on this or do I like and he it was so weird he went from like he was like ghosting me almost because he just needed a process and then he sent me a video of him slow dancing with his mom like he had gone home and he s and he was the way he was like touching her body like she was so little and he was like was kissing her forehead and like touching her hips and like just like embracing her and I was like this man loves women so much and he loves his mom so much and I was I remember being at my girlfriend aon's house and I was like look I was like I have to marry this man and then she [ __ ] passed away like a year after my dad died and he couldn't even go to the funeral because he was here so I mean this and she he they wouldn't give him a pass to even go do that because he used it to go visit her for the two weeks so going through him giving up his job he was so depressed he went from working nonstop to waking up with no Purp purpose I was like you're going to be able to work so much in La like you'll get so much free he legally couldn't work that's when he decided to start Kia we like bought money from from friends we did like a tiny friends and family around that's how we started the brand like so much happened at the beginning that was so [ __ ] intense for two and a half three years of just like and we're living with my mom that was the most insane [ __ ] not normal transition at the beginning of a Rel like it was all then I couldn't get PR it was like and now we're like H like things are good you know what I mean it's nice to take a beat probably yeah and and the bonding and the the heavy gratitude you went through a lot of life really quickly the Gratitude we have every day is very apparent and abundant and it's because of that experience it sounds like a lot of your relationship is based in gratitude for both of you well every day this is so so the TR that's commiting needs to practice more GR UD well I just pray for everyone because I'm just like I'm sorry that that's that that is your mindset and that you I just want I mean everyone deserves to be happy and I don't think we realize like how how intensely our vibration attracts good and bad so if you're putting out so much negativity I'm just like you're going to [ __ ] get this back I always say this on the podcast I'm like if you're listening to this with bad intentions please stop cuz you're just going to make your life worse I also think what I've noticed notic is when people who are really hypercritical that comes back to them people are then hypercritical always say this I'm like if you criticize someone then we're going to look at you and [ __ ] criticize everything it's I know I see people do it on Instagram like smart adult people will will like launch a brand and talk [ __ ] about another brand launching theirs I'm like now everyone's going to talk [ __ ] about your [ __ ] situation it's really interesting the more critical you are I've noticed even I become critical of the I'm probably like vibrating 100% that's why I don't ever give my like I don't give strong opinions about anything I'm just like everything's fine like I'm not you just I mean you're right I mean just like people the reason I my Approach now is I just feel like I don't want to say I pray for everybody like sometimes I'm like [ __ ] you I do and it feels really nice yeah I don't care about feeling nice I'm like [ __ ] you right [ __ ] you people but like my thing is like if you're putting that out that's so it's just I I don't like I'm not I just think it's so useless I mean everywhere like it's on every art like even if you're scrolling through your phone and you look at CNN like the like every um person that just has a phone and you click on these profiles and it's like a 55-year-old mom in Iowa who's like I love my kids and she's like making it's like where did we [ __ ] go like but what I mean but like I just the purpose in life is you should be useful to some groue not to everybody you got to be useful in life it's just like if you're not useful then you're useless by definition and so but I think that effort of running around and being angry and criticizing other people that you don't even know that don't even know you exist that don't care if you're like it's useless I also think people don't consider their digital footprint because think about it I'm like if I were to I was like I know who you are and if I were to screenshot your Instagram put this on my Instagram highlight all the things that you've said about me the last three years that are about my daughter that are [ __ ] atrocious you would never work again and your family would be ashamed like people that write these things there's things that people say about I don't care about what you say about me because I it doesn't affect me also it's someone said this to me it was so smart Aurora James said this to me she's like these are your consumers like these are your customers like everyone that that's what people don't realize like the more that you talk about other people the more like that's why everyone's like the [ __ ] the Kardashians I'm like stop writing about them then stop it'll go away like you're giving it more shine but I don't I like sometimes I'm like man there would be you know it would be interesting to just show this person's boyfriend or mother or employer or followers what their real behavior is don't [ __ ] with Pia and don't come for I don't know anything about like don't come for people's kids AAL just be like a law it should be but you know I put her on I put her on I I could not show her and no one would say you know no there was a journalist that was asking me from a I guess like a a publication that's a more mainstream publication they're like do you feel like responsible to have to like say certain things and be a c certain way I'm like no I just don't and the reason I don't is like I can't police every single thing all the time and make sure people feel good all the time about and also like are we are we so far past the point where people cannot change the channel or switch or turn it off or not listen or pay attention to something else like take some personal accountability people really are very upset when they see somebody doing something that's different than how they would do it I post a video of Carmella sleeping on dbby day it was the cutest thing she fell asleep on him on a pool raft and she did have little she had like a little you know in Italy the girls don't wear tops and they everywhere you go the little beach towns they sell these cute little like cotton little bottoms with little ruffles for little girls and we buy them in bulk every time we're there so she was in the pool wearing one of those but she had no top on and she was laying on him and his hands were covering her little bikini bottom so it looked like she was naked but by the way she'll lay on him naked too because she's a [ __ ] little girl and we're a family and this what the the people that were so up in arms over it and this one woman was like I have a daughter of the same age and I can never imagine my daughter laying on my husband like that and I was like well then don't do it and I was like I I wanted to respond and I didn't but I just thought to myself why do you care about someone's choice being different than yours you know because people want everyone's choice to be the same as there we've lost complete discourse I mean and also like we can have different choices and still have civil conversations what's sad is That's the basis of our government right is like we supposed to be having these political conversations where I remember like John McCain talking about this where he would be like I would go in Scream my face off to PE you know and advocate for things with people who have completely different ideas than I had you know arguing on other sides of of senate or congress or whatever and he's like and you know what we always did afterwards we all went to [ __ ] lunch together yeah it wasn't like [ __ ] you you should die it was like we're here to debate to come up with the best middle ground you know and we've just lost the ability I mean debate is such a healthy incredible thing you have to be willing to listen to the other person we just lost that critical thinking well because people people want to put people in boxes left right red blue this that you know what I mean and know when you leave the box and if and if you if you say one thing that's in one box then they're like well that must mean you think this way or that there's no there's no potential anymore to say like well there may be some Nuance to some of this I we've lost completely yeah no and it's like I remember when we moved to Texas like they don't want to pay taxes [ __ ] no I don't want to pay more taxes like I don't well especially cforia which is a complete [ __ ] [ __ ] hole Yeah well I was like listen if I was confident that the powers that be would take these and be very responsible and there'd be no corruption and the dollars would be used usefully and they'd have to run it like a company where like if I am not responsible in my company with my dollars the company goes under and people lose jobs and there's accountability I know it's it's like it's all the Democratic states almost want the everyone's like wants to be like socialist but the money isn't even being used in that way either it's not helping it's the only entity that is not beholden to financial literacy and and it's it's the only entity that's not beholden to financial responsibility you could just [ __ ] everything up and it's like well no problem so like anyways if I say that watch there'll be some idiot on Reddit right now you know really funny is if that person were to be able to establish their career and the way that you two have and see how much of their money cuz when you get to a different tax bracket it's a lot of [ __ ] taxes you're paying and like if they were to get to that point they would make the exact same decision that you made they're just not putting themselves in anybody else's shoes it's not it's not just that it's just but my point is if I say so everything I just said there will be some Bozo writing something this guy is this way no just because I want to do that doesn't mean I don't believe in human rights and women's right and all these completely not being used that way so it makes no sense and I completely understand it and and anybody else in your position would make that would likely make that same decision they're not in your position so the accusations are ridiculous how about just letting all kinds of people have different opinions is that like and and opinions don't change their mind like well when people when I hear people yelling at each other especially like abortion and stuff I'm like how are you going to convince someone who truly thinks that they're whatever this is so political we shouldn't even talk about but I'm like of course a [ __ ] Christian thinks that it's that it's murder like it just like but why would you not consider that like let's have dialogue and explain the Nuance situations where it's really helpful but you can't just say that someone's ridiculous like if I'm a DieHard Christian of course that's what I'm going to [ __ ] think the biggest thing that we try to do on this platform and we've had it's funny if we have people that are clearly right or clearly left we will get [ __ ] from both sides for having those kind of people on but Lauren and I are not in the business of trying to change either of those people's minds we're in the business of trying to understand why they think the way they do and then which is what's supposed to happen yeah and then you can have empathy for someone like I can understand if you have a certain background to group a certain way your parents thought a certain way why you think differently of course like it's it's it's it's hard to imagine it's life experience that changes those yeah like if you like a lot of people on the coast forget that there's a lot that goes on in the middle of the country and some of these people grow up maybe in red states with very conservative values and that's how their grandparents were and their great parents and their parents to all of a sudden ask their child to completely go away go away from the way that they were raised is not it's it's not empathetic either it's like you have to understand like this is some of the values that were instilled whether you agree with them or not like I I'm not I I don't I have no interest in trying to think that my way of life should completely dissuade somebody else from their way of life right like as long as it's not bothering or harming like do what you want that's exactly how I feel whatever love this this conversation it's it's left it's right it's up it's down it's all around if you don't massage my feet and kiss my feet in my toes tonight you are going to get an and also you people that don't drink ra raw milk get it together I'm just kidding yeah well you should try raw milk I love raw milk I can't wait to drink it again it's amazing um where can everyone shop your line where can they find you tell us all the things LPA is sold on revolve and forward and baron Chini which is our olive oil brand which will soon be home wees and a lot of various Pantry items like ancient grain pasta and wine and olives um that's at barini important co.com if you're in La you can buy barini at airwan rad um I know it's so crazy that's cool it's what's so funny is like yeah I mean the company so we don't even have like we have like one we have like one distributor like this is I can't wait to actually like do this properly um my husband's brand is Gia cashmere he has a beautiful store in pasaden I want come check that out sometime you should it's honestly I stopped by yesterday and I like walked into the store and I like sat down and like the back door was open and there's a fountain and he has basil everywhere and the front door was open and he made a coffee from our machine like and here for this sum May playing and I just was like and you know we did all of that with our own money we decorated everything ourselves everything was like the like the coffee bar was a tiki bar we found on Craig's List that we like put copper on top like so it just like walking into that space and being like we did every every single thing I want to come see that it feels like you're walking into our house let me tell you something about Michael Boston let's go to the Rose Bowl and then go he is a real secret shopper way more than me he has you know what he told me when we were are savages when it comes to shopping you need a tailor well he's very particular so I feel like would love that store no but I don't have the curation expertise or the creativity but I no he spot sty I have an eye I think to see like sure of course like you could tell I I can tell when something's taste when we were in Austin I took a photo of his watch and I sent it to David and Dav said that's big boy stuff big boy stuff he was like but he but he was he said that's big boy stuff not in terms of financials or anything when I got home he was like that watch is blah blah blah blah blah blah blah it was designed so and so wore it like he was like Michael has taste he was like he knows because a watch a proper watch collector buys a watch that's going to appreciated value and he was like he bought the right watch you are stroking the ego he's so happy I get no I get what he's saying it's like I well but again like I think did you see some guys who have watches and you're like that's a dumbuck kiss my feet I don't know if you we were just on with who wakes up first do you sleep in a little bit after him I sleep in a little bit after so do I so then when he gets up and my my feet are always my feet are always out of the sheets and they're always like this and so he thinks it's I'm not digging under the sheetss why because no if it's out of the sheets maybe I'm not digging in my feet happen I can't have my feet under the covers I get too hot okay well we I feel like he needs to write a romance there all be like you have 18 Barefoot dreams blankets and all sort I'm not digging where can everyone um uh should we do a giveaway for LPA yeah oh my God cool uh what can we give away like your favorites if they follow you know what I've been wanting to do and we could do like I want to give away if there's any like Brides I want to give clothes to Brides who can't like afford you know who are like having to be like Scrappy finan you know it's a lot of money to buy all these looks for your weddings I want to provide like a wardrobe for a pride that's nice I was thinking having the shower this morning I was like I need to get don't Li if you're not getting married okay then that's why I thought I was in the shower with my daughter and I was like I was like I want to do something nice I think I want to help Brides I was like we should do like a bridal giveaway and then I was like how do I [ __ ] get these people to prove to me they're getting you what I'm going to take half the resources of the whole entire company and say like make sure this person's getting married we'll figure it out you guys go if you are a bride go introduce yourself on my latest post at Lauren Bostic and go follow Pia on Instagram tell us your Instagram one more time uh Pia barini and follow LPA what's the what's the Instagram for LPA LPA the label easy um P you are a rock star thank you for coming on come back anytime go listen to her podcast it's on dear media I have so many questions I have for you guys so I everything is the best do we'll do the dinner with Raina husband uh what's it called funky funky i' best pasta I trust you I trust you thank you than thank you