i’ve mentioned a couple times how you say things and think differently than others and I want to read it it'll take me just a minute here to read this paragraph and ask you to explain it further this is deep in the book uh and when I read it it kind of popped out and I wanted to ask you what you meant by all this say any fundamental reexamination of the assumptions behind preferential policies that's the name of the book and still more so any resulting change of policy IES can expect to encounter their vocal bitter and determined opposition including inevitable charges of racism against Outsiders labels of Traitor put on any members of their own group who disagree with them uh who disagree publicly with them and whatever other claims or charges seem likely to be politically effective when you said labels of Traitor put on any members of their own group who dis agree publicly with them were you talking about yourself only as one among many uh Randall Kennedy up at Harvard did the very fine article in the Harvard Law review last June for which he was denounced as an academic minstral and other things because he was out of Step I mean people who who raise their heads uh will set off a search and destroy mission because uh people have a lot at stake and they're sitting on a house of cards they have many assumptions which simply cannot be examined carefully because those assumptions will collapse and they will fall from a very high position to a very low position and they are not about to tolerate people uh questioning what they're saying is there a way for you to put it in a nutshell about what people will say your own race say about you that they don't like what you say about wait wait I think I think one of the one of the ways that the organized noise makers have succeeded as saying that what they're saying is what their race is saying my race is not saying that about me those people particular individuals who are a small minority of themselves within the black community who have a vested interest in many of these programs they are saying that but when I checked out of my hotel this morning you know the black uh uh security guard come came over and says are you soul I said yes and he shook my hand warmly and we walked he walked me the length of the carridor and talked about this and about that and that's not at all an uncommon experience for me so it's not Soul versus blacks it's the black in intellectuals and the black int uals are no more typical of the black population than white intellectuals are of the white population uh but they have a very large vested interest in certain beliefs which they which underly various programs from which they benefit enormously and as I point out in the book this is common around the world that the elites benefit from preferential programs even when those programs are in the name of the masses the masses do not benefit in the case of the current so-called Civil Rights Act the masses are going to lose big if that law goes into effect why because employers will not want to hire as many blacks in the jobs which most blacks will be applying because those will not be jobs as Rocket scientists or as doctors or as any of those things and therefore they'll want to hold down percentages down there uh to what they can do uh on higher ranks which is going to be much less uh and so you so you're sacrificing the workingclass blocks for the benefit of the professional Elite how do the intellectual Elite both white and black get to the position that they do in this country that you disagree with I mean how how do they have the influence they have well no but how what what what's their from what your discussions over the years what's their thought process that gets them there is it emotion or is it fact emotion largely but also a large amount of self-interest increasingly self-interest I think that if you went back you know into the 60s you'd find people with different views like Martin Luther King or Malcolm X but I think that both those men believed in what they said uh whereas today you have people who are simply professional Hustlers and again this is not peculiar to blacks or peculiar to the United States or even peculiar to racial issues that organizations typically many movements are set off by idealistic people who want to promote some good for mankind or for some group But as time goes by and as they succeed they will be followed by people who can use these things for their own self-interest and that's been the history of regulatory agencies in the government uh it's been the history of I think of of religions that the uh the first Christian Christians who were being persecuted by the Roman Empire were not in it you know for what they could get because all they were going to get is trouble but once Christianity became the state religion this became a very lucrative career for some people uh and then you get an entirely different kind of person coming in at that point and we can have an entirely different kind of movement I love this quote from Thomas so one of the painful signs of years of dumped down education is how many people are unable to make a coherent ument they can vent their emotions question other people's motives make bold assertions repeat slogans anything except reason and the most evident place to observe this is with Hollywood actors where these people are just Mindless soulless megaphones repeating what their owners tell them to say I really like the argument on people disagreeing but actually believing in what they are disagreeing about I think there is nothing more insulting than just being a Mindless robot because you have sold your soul for success and that's pretty much why I've lost respect for so many of those people because if you can't respect yourself enough to own yourself and own your own thoughts then you're nothing more than a slave but let me know what you think about this in the comments below as always if you enjoyed it 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