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VTuber Community Drama: Cinder Controversy

Apr 29, 2025

Apocalyptic VTuber Drama Overview

Introduction

  • In 2025, the VTuber community faced a major drama involving a prominent independent YouTuber, Cinder.
  • The controversy centers around Cinder allegedly sabotaging and backstabbing fellow VTubers, including Bao.
  • The drama began with a viral Google document by an artist named Nano, detailing grievances against Cinder.

Key Figures

  • Cinder: The main VTuber accused of harmful actions.
  • Redacted (Red): Cinder’s manager and significant other, involved in the manipulative actions.
  • Bao: A bigger independent VTuber and victim of Cinder’s actions.
  • Nano: The artist who released the document sharing her negative experiences with Cinder.

Timeline and Allegations

  • Early Career: Cinder started as Tashi.mpp3, later becoming a prominent VTuber named Cinder.
  • Dramatic Turn: A successful model debut in 2022 led to Cinder’s rise in popularity.
  • Artist Manipulation: Nano claimed Cinder and Red manipulated her into canceling work with other VTubers.
  • Exclusivity Pressure: Redacted pressured Nano into an exclusivity deal, affecting VTubers like Bao.
  • Backstabbing Allegations: Cinder’s actions towards Bao, Cotton, and others came to light via DMs.

Detailed Allegations

  • Bao’s Experience: Bao accused Cinder of sabotaging her VTuber model commission and spreading lies.
  • Editor and Animator Issues: Allegations of Cinder interfering with Bao’s collaborations with editors and animators.
  • Spite and Silver: Both VTubers faced similar issues with Cinder’s attempts to blacklist them.

Cinder’s Response

  • Released a statement apologizing and announced Red would no longer represent her.
  • Acknowledged some responsibility but largely placed blame on Red.
  • Admitted to having prior personal issues impacting her professional decisions.

Community Reactions

  • The VTuber community reacted with disappointment and anger towards Cinder’s behavior.
  • Her apology was critiqued for lacking accountability and sincerity.
  • Fellow VTubers, including Bao and Shy Lily, expressed their hurt and betrayal.

Conclusion

  • The drama has significantly tarnished Cinder’s reputation within the VTuber community.
  • Cinder’s future in the industry is uncertain, with potential impacts on her partnerships and projects.
  • The incident highlights the need for transparency and accountability in the VTuber industry.

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