Cultural name. Greetings of goodness. Happy Morning. Welcome ladies and gentlemen while at the socialization event policy quality measurement 2025 which was held this morning, Wednesday, June 11, 2025. The Honorable Deputy Policy Quality Improvement Area Public Administration, Mr. Agus Sudrajat whom we respect. Good morning, sir. Agus. Morning. Okay, our respected Director. Policy Quality Improvement Strategy Public Administration, Mr. Widi Novianto. Good morning, Mr. Widi. Good morning, Ms. Reni. Yes, congratulations Morning Mrs. Isni Kartika who will be here later act as moderator. Happy Morning, Ms. Isni. And we also say good morning to the ladies and gentlemen of the audience and all LAN friends who are present either via channel Zoom Meeting and YouTube channel State Administration Institution which happy. To start the event, let's together singing the national anthem Indonesia Raya. Attendees are requested to perfect sitting posture. [Music] Indonesia my homeland, the land of my birth. That's where I stand up so guide my mother. Indonesia my nationality, my nation and my homeland. Let us surrender Indonesia united. [Music] Long live my land, long live my country, my nation, all my people. Wake up the soul, wake up the body for Indonesia Raya. Indonesia Raya is free, my land is free, my beloved country. Indonesia Raya is independent and independent. Live it up Indonesia Raya. Indonesia Raya is free, my land is free my beloved country Great Indonesia, independent, long live the freedom Indonesia Raya [Music] Ladies and gentlemen, before Let's move on to the next agenda we bow our heads for a moment while praying and begging the Almighty power so that this event can take place successfully and smoothly. Pray according to respective religions and beliefs. Please go ahead. Finished. Okay, ladies and gentlemen. Next, let's look at it together remarks from the Deputy for Development Quality of State Administration Policy to Mr. Agus Sudrajat with respect please. Thank you, Ms. Reni. In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. Peace be upon you and Allah's mercy and blessings May Allah bless you. Good morning. Peace be upon us all. Oh my God. There is Buddha. Greetings of goodness. Dear Director of Strategy Improving Policy Quality State Administration, Institutions State Administration and all ranks. Officials and representatives of Ministry of Institutions and Government Region, level coordinator team national, structural officials, functional officials, and all participants socialization that I am proud of. First of all, let us give praise thanks to the presence of God Almighty because of the abundance of grace and by His grace we can be present together in the index socialization activities quality of policy today Wednesday June 11, 2025 in good health safe and sound. Ladies and Gentlemen, I respect you. We all agree that success national development is very much determined by the quality of public policy that underlying it. Good policy is a prerequisite key to the success of the program development. And a good policy is not one that just focus on paper, but also by the right process, implementation consistent, and real impact for the community. Therefore, the presence of a quality index policy becomes very important. IKK is a strategic instrument for measure the extent of the drafting process policies are carried out professionally, systematic, evidence-based, inclusive, and collaborative too and to what extent policies that have been made and implemented can provide an impact towards achieving development results. This time the IKK measurement is not only focus on the process, but we start to shift our attention on not just on compliance or compliance towards performance or actual performance and outcomes or results for the community. The purpose of this IKK is to encourage improving the quality of policy government through measurement methods independent or self assessment focuses on policy impact. Active participation of Ministries, Institutions and Local Government in measurement This IKK is very important and strategic. Because the results of the IKK will be direct input to Mr. President as a basis for viewing units a truly committed government and contribute to the achievement national development targets. In other words, the Ministry of Institutions and the local government which is actively involved in This measurement is the Ministry Institutions and local governments that are part of of the solution not part of the problem. Brothers and sisters, measurement quality of policy applied to profile and four dimensions. Profile contains data about identity ministries, institutions and local governments. And this time here we will assess the involvement functional officer policy analyst in measuring the quality of this policy. While the dimensions measured consist of on policy planning, policy implementation, evaluation policies and transparency as well public participation. I would further like to emphasize that this policy quality index also become an important part of measurement bureaucratic reform as one of the key indicators for assessing quality governance. IKK is a concrete manifestation of Asta Cita Seventh in the President's vision and mission Prabowo Gibran, namely strengthening political, legal and bureaucratic reform and strengthen prevention efforts and eradication of corruption, drugs, gambling, and smuggling. This means that policy improvements are not only Technocratic issues, but also part of a strategic agenda national to realize a bureaucracy that clean, responsive and pro-government people. We want participation figures this year increased from previous years. We also really hope this year there will be more ministries institutions and local governments that fall into the category excellent very good and good. We don't want to exist anymore ministries, institutions and local governments that the value is sufficient, let alone less. Therefore Contact us immediately if there are any problems which needs to be consulted during the self-assessment process. Ladies and Gentlemen, Brothers and Sisters, I am proud. Currently we are facing a very complex challenge. Start from eradicating extreme poverty, stunting reduction, transformation digital, to far-reaching economic development and sustainable. All these challenges will not be can be answered with policies that mediocre. We need quality policies, integrated, evidence-based, and focused on the results. We also need a system increasingly reliable bureaucracy in managing the policy cycle. Therefore I invite everyone ministries, institutions and local governments to actively participate in the development not only as an obligation administrative, but as part from efforts to improve governance government. Building a more policy ecosystem healthy and professional by strengthening the role of policy analysts, researchers, and planners within the organization each. Then make IKK as a mirror and compass. mirror for see the position and quality of the policy we are now and Compass and navigation to determine the direction of improvement systematic and as a joint commitment in encouraging bureaucratic reform more meaningful and have a direct impact on public. Let's not just compile policy, but ensure that every policy that is made can really solve the problem, answer challenges, and improve quality of life of the community. I am confident in the collective commitment and cross-sector cooperation and can improve the quality of policies in general Systemic ultimately increases power competitiveness and social welfare in Indonesia. That's all I can say convey. Hopefully this activity will bring great and real benefits in strengthening public policy governance in Indonesia. Greetings May Allah have mercy and blessings. And peace be upon you and the mercy of Allah May Allah bless you. Thank you to Mr. Agus for his welcoming speech and before entering the presentation and discussion session, allow us to conduct a session documentation first. Please Kind regards to Mr Agus, Mr Widi, Mrs. Isni, and of course all participants to be able to activate the camera each. And on the count of three the host will take ee picture. Good. 1 2 3. Okay, thank you, ladies and gentlemen. the happy one. We will enter The next agenda is a presentation about implementation of quality measurement policy 2025 which will be delivered by the Director Policy Quality Improvement Strategy State Administration. To Mr. Widi Widianto is respectfully invited. Thank you Ms. Reni for his chance. In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. Peace be upon you and Allah's mercy and blessings May Allah bless you. Good morning, greetings prosperity for us all. Oh swastiastu, Namo Buddhaya, greetings virtue. On this occasion we will convey ee quality measurement 2025 policy. There are a few things we will convey regarding IKK measurement 2025. State administration institutions are given trust to carry out measurements quality of policy and has been implemented in 2021 and 2025. We are aware of several things that need to be to be refined from the instrument measurement of the quality of existing policies we did in 2021 and the year 2023. Based on input from various parties and also for input from various government agencies, we trying to make adjustments from the instrument. There are five updates to the measurement instruments IKK that we have prepared for this 2025 measurement. Five We will convey this update in this opportunity. The first one is related with the policy being the object measurement. Activities that are the object of measurement quality of policy is policy strategic development policy booster from government agencies both central and regional and areas for development sustainable which is aimed at public welfare in general comprehensive and supportive of growth economy. And this is what might be needed later for ee prepared by the agency government to determine development policies what strategies are there in each its agency. Of course with considering various related matters with what kind of impact or benefits for society or external stakeholders. In our IKK measurement instrument conveyed that there are several sectors that later it can be identified according to type of policy. Suppose the sector related to infrastructure, food, economy, then also related to health, education, and various other sectors according to the document RPJMN. And if these sectors may not be in the policy which you determine in your agency each, can determine in other sectors that might be possible later studied in the IKK instrument we will convey. Then ee criteria for policy the first strategic development is to regulate interests and have direct impact on society wide. We hope that you, sir, madam, can choose regulations or policies that have direct impact on the wider community, not a policy that regulates internal organization, ladies and gentlemen. Then it was set and done implemented within a period of 3 the year prior to the measurement year. So, Ladies and gentlemen, you can decide the year 2022, 2023, and 2024. Carry on. Then the number of policies that become object of measurement ee. We would like to convey this opportunity this is that the number of policies that submitted for measurement amount the same for all government agencies namely three policies. So there is no again population and sample. Meaning of Father Mother determines only three policies in government agencies that meets my aforementioned criteria mention that it has relevance to development policy strategic. Carry on. Then for the measuring instruments. Questions we try to design for our instrument become simpler, namely concise, straightforward, and in tune that can shows the impact of the policy. We try to simplify from 39 questions become 11 questions that hopefully can be answered make it easier for government agencies to carry out the filling process via self assessment of ee quality policies that exist in your agency all. 39 the statement is considered too troublesome for government agencies so that we try to simplify to 11 just a question. Carry on. Then related to supporting evidence. More concrete supporting evidence documents and easy to fulfill and not open to multiple interpretations actual and more valid. Please with very much to all the ladies and gentlemen who are given task to do ee measurement quality of policies in his/her agency each to be able to prepare supporting evidence documents that we will ee ask to be delivered later for every ee question we will provide in the ee instrument document the IKK. Then feedback on the results of self assessment, namely the feedback stage for every government agency to provide an opportunity to complete or improve the supporting evidence that will be affect the final value. It means we beg you very much later we will provide opportunities to agencies government to take advantage of the opportunity correct or complete a document which has been conveyed to us. We hope that government agencies can make improvements changes so that the final value of the IKK can be even better for your agency all. Carry on. Then related to the weighting of instrument policy quality index. we make changes to the instrument previously and we made changes also related to the weighting of IKK instrument. for weight. Such that Earlier it was conveyed by the Deputy, we give our appreciation to government agencies involved policy analyst in the process IKK measurement which we will then give a weight of 10% of the total value IKK assessment of agencies government. Then for policy planning we give it a weight of 20%. We provide implementation of our policies weight 25%. Then evaluation and sustainability 30% policy and transparency and we provide public participation 15% weight appreciation. Carry on. Then for quality measurement 2025 policy implementation consists of board members We will invite and become experts here academics to get involved in policy quality measurement process. Then also the command center, national coordinator, and team This verifier will be involved in the quality measurement process policies in the area of administrative institutions country. Meanwhile, from the agency the government consists of coordinators agency then agency analyst. We hope the agency coordinator or This agency's analysts also involve friends of policy analysts who are in government agencies. Carry on. Then related to the implementer policy quality measurement 2025 For This board member consists of experts, academics, and also officials competent in the field of public policy has a duty to provide considerations regarding the measurement process quality of policy and determination final assessment. Then the boat members themselves consist of of five people. Command Center is Directorate of Quality Improvement Strategy State Administration Policy that have a duty to be responsible overall towards management implementation of quality measurement policy, appoint coordinator national and verification team and distributing government agencies central and local government agencies which follows quality measurement policies to the national coordinator. Carry on. The national coordinator here is functional officer policy analyst at state administrative institution that has duties and functions as person in charge of communications and coordination with government agencies central and local government agencies. distribute self-assessment results self assessment of central government agencies and local government agencies to verification team and carry out checks regarding the initial assessment of verification results and the verifier here is an official functional policy analyst in LAN environment that has the task of verify the assessment independently based on supporting evidence has been determined. Then the coordinator of this agency who We hope that later, ladies and gentlemen from government agencies to immediately determine who becomes agency coordinator and analyst agency, namely an official in an agency central government and government agencies area designated by the leader central government agencies and agencies local government in measurement quality of policy that has the task function as person in charge coordination communication with the national coordinator distribute policies that used as a measurement object to the agency analyst to be carried out self-assessment and fulfillment of evidence support and carry out checks towards the initial assessment of the assessment results independence and fulfillment of supporting evidence. While the analyst of this agency is functional officials. We hope too from existing policy analysts at Ladies and Gentlemen's Agency appointed by the head of the agency government in quality measurement policies that have functional duties conduct self-assessment and fulfillment of supporting evidence. Carry on. Then the business process in measurement quality policy in 2025. We will explain here Comen Center as implementer in quality measurement policy will activate account agency coordinator and coordinator the agency will input and submit three strategic development policies as we said earlier and national coordinator if necessary agree to carry out activities next to convey to agency coordinator to carry out activation of a number of accounts for analysis agencies according to needs. However if not approved then the coordinator national will return to agency coordinator to adjust back perhaps there is a policy that less relevant. This means it could be from year or from the type of policy that we mean. Then the agency analysis is carried out solve assessments and coordinate with various parties. After completing the analysis agencies perform input and submit to the agency coordinator. Then the next activity is the coordinator the agency will conduct a check on input data. If it is not in accordance with the agency's analysis asked to do ee repairs. The next activity is the coordinator agency submits input data to the national coordinator then carries out self assessment and self value the assessment will be delivered and national coordinator distribute self assessment from the results of an independent assessment to the verification team for conduct analysis of assessment results independently and do submit and national coordinator delivers feedback to the agency coordinator in writing or through forums scheduled. Then here is an opportunity for government agencies to improve return some missing documents or incomplete to be able to delivered again. There is a process adjustments of some documents that has been delivered. We hope This opportunity can be used wisely maximum by government agencies in framework for improving the quality of policies is in a government agency. Next step, Comment Center report to the relevant board members with the assessment results and results improvements through the feedback process we convey to the agency the government and continued with the determination of the final value. Thus related to business processes in measurement of policy quality index. Next, regarding the agenda in implementation of quality measurement 2025 policy we have started the activities preparation of policy quality measurement by compiling the instruments that we call it an update instrument from previous instrument. And we did trials related to the EKK instrument in internal and we do it in the month April. Next in May we have a meeting with bot members and national coordination meetings. Then in June we did socialization and kickoff of IKK self assessment verification. we hope it can be done this June God willing, friends from the agency government to immediately prepare in This July and August we will conducting self assessment activities then verify the results the independent measurement is then we held a meeting with the board meeting with member bots for hold a meeting related to the results measurement then feedback process to government agencies expected later in September we can ee continue to activities ee feedback process then improvement of supporting materials and further verification. In October we will continue to do meeting with members then assessment end and delivery of results from measurements for us to report to Ministry of PAN RP and God willing later there is a publication of the results of the ee measurements policy quality in 2025. Furthermore we plan hopefully we can hold a measurement kickoff activity quality policy in 2025 in the month God willing, we will do this later held on the 25th June. If you have something you need, sir or ma'am to be delivered or required information, consulting and services complaints can be directed to us Directorate of Quality Improvement Strategy State Administration Policy through Wise Friend for information services, consultation and complaints. Please later You can contact us. We ready God willing to help you as well as in the measurement process quality of policy and if there is anything which needs to be confirmed, asked, we are ready to help. On this occasion we would like to introduce BOD members and hopefully Among the BOD members, some were present on this occasion. The first is Prof. English: Dr. Erwan Agus Purwanto. He Deputy for Bureaucratic Reform, Accountability, Apparatus and Supervision eh Kemenpan RB. Then Mr. Agus Sudrajat, Deputy for Development Quality of State Administration Policy, State Administration Agency. Prof. Eco Prasojo is a professor at the Faculty of Science UI Administration. Then, Dr. Yusarto Untoyou. He is the Head of the Agency Domestic Policy Strategy Ministry of Internal Affairs. And Mr. Imam Gunartto, he is a policy analyst chief expert from the National Archives. Hopefully W members can always accompany or always strengthen us all inside framework for conducting quality measurements policy. While what things are necessary for done by all of you? This government agencies immediately coordinate in internal to designate and establish a measurement implementation team the quality of the 2025 policy consists of the coordinator of the analyst agency agencies involving CFAK in adjusted amount. we hope once it has been determined who will be who agency coordinator and analyst agencies so that they can go through the process which we convey in measurements quality of policy so that there is no what is left behind, nothing is left behind carry out quality measurement 2025 policy there are 645 agencies the government that we hope can participate involved in the measurement process the quality of the 2025 policy. Then please start from now determine three development policies strategic which will be proposed as object of policy quality measurement 2025 please start determining by paying attention to the criteria which we convey to be able to used as a guide as a reference in determining the policy according to the views of the ladies and gentlemen who represent we define as three policies strategic from each agency. Criticism, suggestions, input, questions, and complaints from all of you, ladies and gentlemen, can through our Wise Friend hotline already prepared. This is the information related to the socialization of measurement quality of policy in 2025. Later for technical matters, the team will provide more detailed information related to quality measurement 2025 policy. what measurement changes are possible Later you will be able to find out more details. That's all I can say convey. Thank you for his attention. Greetings May Allah have mercy and blessings. And peace be upon you and the mercy of Allah May Allah bless you. Thank you to Mr. Widi for your presentation. Ladies and Gentlemen, the happy one, we have just seen along with an explanation regarding the implementation policy quality measurement year 2025. And then we will give an opportunity to you, ladies and gentlemen who want to ask questions, suggestions, as well as input in discussion sessions and also Q&A. For that, we invite our moderators to this opportunity. He is young expert policy analyst on Directorate of Quality Improvement Strategy State Administration Policy. To Dear Mrs. Isni Kartika Larasati, please. Good. Oh, thank you, Ms. Reni. In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. Peace be upon you May Allah have mercy and blessings. Hello. Oh my God. There is Buddha. Greetings of goodness. Dear Sir, Deputy for Quality Improvement State Administration Policy of Mr. Agus Degree. Then the Director of Strategy Improving Policy Quality State Administration Mr. Widianto, and the participants of the socialization policy quality measurement year 2025, both those present via Zoom meeting or listening through the channel YouTube State Administration Institute. Good morning, best wishes to us all. Okay ladies and gentlemen, earlier we were together we have heard the delivery from deputy how is the quality picture policies in Indonesia and how the urgency of quality ee policies this is against our bureaucratic reform and also how ee policy that This quality must be able to move That's how development goes. Then ee The director has also said that in 2025 this IKK measurement experiencing changes like no other intended to accelerate achievement good quality policy ee good in central agencies and ee in agencies government in the region. Well, the points the importance of the changes mentioned above has been delivered and in this session we will deepen again how IKK measurement mechanism in 2025 This. There is already a team from Comen here IKK Center, there is Mrs. Evi Trisulo. With permission from Mrs. Evi. Yes. Yes. He will later explain in more detail how 2025 IKK measurement mechanism and then we will continue later with a question and answer discussion session interactive. Here are some ladies and gentlemen who has raised the hand first. Please hold on for now, ladies and gentlemen. We listen first to the details of the changes policy quality measurement instruments which will be delivered from the Comen team IKK Center. To Ms. Ei, our time and our screen please. Thank you, Ms. Isni. Hey Sir Ladies and gentlemen, please allow us to come later try not to take too long because it's already 18 Many have already registered but ee please be patient first. We will tell more technical story because technical so no need to be too tense so we ask permission not to too long we'd better be later what much to discuss so clarity on the ee measurement process ee the quality of the 2025 policy will be it's easier, easier to digest and then participation from Mr. and Mrs. we are all very, very appreciation until the end later we have a benchmark against quality of policy from the agency government. In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. Peace be upon you and Allah's mercy and blessings May Allah bless you. ee is indeed related to change instrument. So if you listened earlier from the ee director that in 2025 this we have done a summary of a usually statement-question or questions which then our language experiences discount up to 70% 70% we discount sir Mother. So, ladies and gentlemen, you don't need to worry too much. dizzy later we only need 11 questions just ask that later ee can filled with various supporting evidence which level of clarity or naming or type of document as supporting evidence God willing, we believe that more familiar ee to accompany from or complete from question 11 questions as mentioned by Mr. The director just continued with his slides. In the four dimensions mentioned earlier, we emphasize that the Deputy has emphasized the need for involvement from functional analyst position or officer that policy is our concern and is the first change from ee measurement of policy quality in the year 2025. So, ladies and gentlemen, later because It was mentioned earlier that there is one profile which will later have weight, then four dimensions that we might later we can repeat it as many times as possible in the question and answer session and so on. But in principle, God willing, everything will be fine on measuring policy quality it will be system based and that system later will also use the address or domains that may be years it was the same before. However, please allow us to continue to work, we are still in the process of refinement of a system. So language programs and others we continue improve so that when the time comes You have already used the system I can now run smoothly without any obstacles and ee process This measurement will be completed exactly in time. We convey to you, ladies and gentlemen, This is a picture of how this one system works. Later, you will have to fulfill the requirements. This means that you will use web based system then what only need to be submitted, anything that what is the name needed to be typed later submitted and considered including also how you should fulfill supporting evidence. So, we show here some kind of instruction instruction manual, but more we try to use language which is very easy so that later, Sir, Mother doesn't feel burdened in particular before because we have done it quite a big discount because it will more effective and God willing we will more ee what is it called? easy to be able to followed by all agencies, both central and local or in the regions. So, ladies and gentlemen again we emphasize in IKK 2025 This is the object of measurement policy. We will not tell stories theoretically the definition of policy and and so on and so forth. But on in principle we hope that later with Ladies and gentlemen, understand about the things that needs to be filled in, answered, then what? supported by very strong evidence ee valid it will later understand that what form does the policy actually take? So, ladies and gentlemen, the first one later if ee what is it called ee ee the policy will be we conveyed three policies that we request from every government agency both central and regional there are only three. So we ask you later, ladies and gentlemen, to Your screen display will definitely be typing for example what the name of the policy is. Suppose we give an example of ee about the IKK itself, for example. So the name of the policy for example is policy quality measurement 2025 for example. So later, ladies and gentlemen, system display later you will see typing itself. I will not straight to the job later. Who is typing? that will come later. Then in this profile we call this the segment is just a profiling segment. We also from this profiling it is also necessary to capture or do anything the name is pe ee data from all over all government agencies that will follow this measurement later which we will do in the analysis later better and be a part of report for ee improvement efforts policy quality in Indonesia. After name of the policy Sir/Madam later Sir/Madam can choose the name of the policy ee You can choose the policy sector It was mentioned earlier by Mr. Director who then sector You can do that policy later, ladies and gentlemen. choose even if it is not in the options You can choose to click on other buttons and you can typing all our policy sectors based on the regulations of the residents about the RPJMN so that this God willing will integrate. or coherent with existing sectors nationally. Then in this profile session later there we will also ask the basis law of policy. Every policy of course it will have a legal basis in its implementation. So, Ladies and Gentlemen surely we will come back to one framing of policy assessment. We emphasized that the policy that has been carried out or implemented on year 2022, 2023 and 2024 are the em space scope of the proposed policy become the object of measurement. So, I repeat, well the policy must have been implemented in 2022 or 2023 or 2024. And all of that will definitely be in implementation of the policy have a legal basis that you, ladies and gentlemen, may select or check hierarchy from the existing regulations in the system or if it's not in this there are still other options. Suppose oh we are still based on instructions, we still based on the circular, we still based on the decision, no nothing. please click more and sir Mom can fill it in. Once again Ladies and gentlemen, this profiling is becoming our capture to do ee further analysis for the benefit of our reports or analysis as well. Carry on. Then Mr. Mrs. ee name This program is important, ladies and gentlemen usually the name of the program is us just use simple language. If For example, the name of the policy was ee measurement of policy quality or known as the quality index policy. we give examples, we himself is an example. Then the name the program is usually appropriate with what is in the document RKAKL what is the ee work plan and budget which you usually have and definitely have there is if it has been implemented and it comes from the APBN or APBD and so on until later that be part of the proof of naming ee that policy. So if earlier we give an example of the policy name IKK in our RKAKL which will later be be the input of the program name for example the name is about evaluation and governance in order to improve quality of policy and so on and and so on. So, ladies and gentlemen, don't ee too ee confusing with the process naming, but that's important later be noticed is how the documents the supporter can relate or in line with ee what's in our ask in questions which only has 11 questions. Carry on. Well, after the name later we will convey earlier that the year is valid activities that were 2022, 2023, 2024 the system will reject it if what is entered is outside Those 3 years. So 2021 for example or 2025 for example is included in the ee year what is the name of the point ee the year of validity this activity then the system will do notification that it needs to be reviewed Again. Then this is important again in profile in this profile segment JF policy analyst involvement in measuring the quality of current policies 2005. So it wasn't at the time about implementation or formulation of policies. So at the time of this measurement we always ee we ask for a team that we will provide the team later examples and usually proven later we will ask you for proof with whether it's called a letter of assignment, a letter decision or order, whatever the name is definitely ee it shows that ee team from government agency what is following that? verified. meaning it has been known by the leadership and it must be submitted to us for we see. And once again ladies and gentlemen, we emphasize the involvement of JF analysts very-very policy or have 10% weighting of all ee what his name? Assessment at IKK in 2025 This. So later there will be proof of the appointment letter it must be submitted first in system. Carry on. Well, this is just an example, ladies and gentlemen. Example Here we try to describe the usual if the letter of appointment or letter of assignment or a certificate or whatever the name is of course ee what are some examples there is consideration then pay attention and so on and so on. And that that's definitely what we'll look at first ee directly capture is in the team on the team that is on the screen maybe next to right those are examples of names that then ee we need two ee ee label or two names namely as the agency coordinator will be there later will have an effect on our system later discuss if the name is not clear agency coordinator and others is an agency ee analyst. This is just a name, not a new position, but becomes one name within the 2025 IKK process. Well, this is the thing this is for the amount and then ee who or and others as much as we return to the agency. please specify ourselves and of course our ee really really appreciate it for this its nature must be collaborative and in the agencies themselves must collaborate its nature in this IKK. So please folding between units or between UPDs, between Director Generals and so on. Therefore earlier determined three policies that best according to you in its implementation and has an impact the real one. Then in his team too of course we have to collaborate with each other so that in fulfilling it there is supporting evidence later or in the discussion it will be more comprehensive and of course more valid because this is support and becomes representative of your agency. So we are not talking about OPD, not talking about the Director General, but we are talking about agencies. And this is what become the first point later will affect the ee weights or the value of the IKK in 2025. So remember we only need two name labeling namely coordinator agencies and coordinators eh and analysts agency. The agency coordinator is not means the one who is responsible or the one who the most noisy one. No. Precisely these are the ones who will be able to do it to coordinate ee friends in the agency to be able to immediately fulfill ee and answer from em questions. Remember there are only 11 questions and along with the specified supporting evidence. Continue, ladies and gentlemen, for the dimensions as previously stated by Sir The deputy also said that for the dimensions that first it's about planning policy. So I will repeating three policies over and over again then later you need to submit the SK The team and the team's SK must meet at least two for two namely agency coordinator and analyst agency. For the amount we return to all of you, ladies and gentlemen. And Ladies and Gentlemen in this planning dimension we directly technical this seems also us don't want to make things difficult for you, sir or madam we collaborate with each other for wages which improves the quality of policies in Indonesia so we convey it in a this is already very very transparent We are very, very open about what it is which becomes stressful or becomes highlights of the existing dimensions. So the dimensions of policy planning, remember, the policy that was proposed has been implemented so that we ask in our planning giving a weight of 20%. It means we don't talking about the future, but we are talking about what has happened walk. So we assume planning has certainly been done very much with all considerations. By hence the weight of the ee dimension our planning gives 20%. And what will be more the lack will be asked? There are three of us highlights that are related to dimensions planning is about compiling whether the policy is based on against the above data or information which is valid. We provide a clear picture a policy must be based on argumentation. the argument must be well organized as it usually would be documented either in the form of study report, review report or whatever it is called, its nature is like that shows that there is data and information be the background to why the policy the one that is being proposed must have to ... implemented or has been implemented. That's the highlight that First. So, Sir, Madam has started there are some hints about the policy which will ee be submitted as an object measurement. Then the second highlight we will more or less ask about involvement stakeholders in the formulation policy. Remember, stakeholders that's not it, the important thing is us, us talking, I saw on Zoom it's already stuck at 1001K. I don't know which one is on YouTube but and we all God willing are bureaucrat which means the one who is in charge Our interests are not ours, but... the policy must have implications or impacts on public. We as servants of the people of course make one policy which of course will have later benefits to society in general. And that is also the question we will more or less how stakeholder involvement meaning receiving or feeling the policy in its involvement in policy formulation. naturally documents that are very old familiar for example about minutes or notation or perhaps attendance list and so on or maybe report and then that's FGD and so on can start to be part or prepared for ee materials or supporting evidence Later. The third Hig is about dimensions the planning of the fathers and mothers is and we are trying to get us started for orderly administration in signs quote and also be orderly towards regulations that the impact analysis before the policy it should be implemented as it should be it has become a habit for us executive or bureaucrat in our case formulate a policy. So the policy that's why there needs to be a policy first analyze its impacts. If this policy we will compile the predictions later what are the impacts and so on. If that exists then 20% of the parents of the agency government or policy that you request will be fulfilled. So this is in the planning of the dimensions is very very concise, very straightforward language from us and also in harmony with the earlier starting from profiling to ee dimensions in this planning. Next time, I'll try to be quick just so that our discussion is more ee time in the implementation dimension means has been implemented. We are also very believe me once again I keep repeating that the policy as an object is has been implemented. Then the implementation we assume nothing went wrong, there's nothing that's not being implemented because if it is not implemented, of course implemented can't see. So the weight yes we give the weight 25% on the implementation dimension. The highlight is about clarity coordination and communication in policy implementation. What language is it how easy is it? Maybe you, ladies and gentlemen, are in of course there is a policy in implementing it standard operating procedures for example or there are business process rules how this is this policy so that the community clear, society is clear, no diping pong and so on. That be our highlight in dimension implementation. Then the second one later is related we will try ask the parents about effectiveness. Effective or not? Of course we as implementers, especially usually linked to reports feel this is 100% effective. But later it will we'll see whether it's effective or not and we usually have em process or system as possible ee Sir Madam already very familiar about ee e-ONEV monitoring and so on that will later be what becomes part of supporting evidence for the second highlight in in the dimension of policy implementation. So the documents are for you, ladies and gentlemen. very, very familiar. later ee Ladies and gentlemen, we can be more detailed. against ee what is it called ee ee evidence support belutingung for example how. Then the third is about the mechanism supervision. This is important. We need reaffirming once again to IKK In 2025 what is needed is collaboration within your agency. Collaboration between units. in Silina. Role for example, if we usually do it usually hear the word supervision, then our friends, ladies and gentlemen, who be in the Inspectorate Inspectorate meaning whether it is general, main or whatever it's called it's at least certain knowing and having a mechanism supervision and this is what we ask in in implementation. Supporting evidence what next? Usually if we ever listening to the monitoring and evaluation is like us conveyed earlier. Then suppose there is the inspector's programs, Inspectorate usually at the beginning of the year or semesterly or quarterly that's for sure usually have a program and that's us ask about the policy proposed as an exchange object. Very Again, ladies and gentlemen, just three policies are enough and every policy of yours and yours will answer the 11 questions in it those four dimensions plus one profile earlier. This is already the second dimension. Now we quickly move on to the next dimension. third about sustainability evaluation policy. Ladies and Gentlemen, we emphasize that our heavy em in IKK 2025 this is indeed about impact, about impact. So this dimension is 30% of us give weight so that we have to capable be accountable or at least show the public that the policies we have implemented, we arrange it well, we do it have an impact. In this dimension there are three highlights also about what we want to measure, namely the existence of sustainability. We really hope that the policy is not of a nature temporary or only for 1 year. But if it is easy to have a policy which can be sustainable and the impact is very real, it will be very easy to apply ee or fulfill supporting evidence and submitted as measurement object. The second highlight in the evaluation dimension and this sustainability. So we evaluate and disarmament is not only evaluating only but can it sustain against the policy has a measurable impact on this society once again becomes the correlation is in line with previous questions then the impact is measurable for society that's what we asked. for example, for example community satisfaction and so on and next we can do more details can be asked later or sir Mom, I'll give you a little information later. Ladies and gentlemen, we'll give it to you later very open consultation later with friends whose names are national coordinator of elementary school as explained by the Director earlier. So, Sir, Madam, your position is at agency coordinator and analyst agency. And who can communicate and coordination by system or later if you want to depend on ee use media or chat platforms for example WhatsApp and so on it is national coordinator at LAN location and the agency coordinator who becomes representative of your agency. So we have that measurable impact back here that the connection is like a survey public satisfaction with policies which is the object of measurement. Hopefully you have started to get a picture of yourself, ladies and gentlemen what do we have, what do we have and and so on. And remember not against one OPD unit, not one diren, one deputy, but sir, Mother represents one agency both central and regional. Then The third highlight evaluated is alignment of policies and other policies which is relevant. And this is somewhat possible be part of ee what is it called our learning together. Sometimes we forget we exist carry out a policy but it turns out there's a little bit of what's it called overlap or possibly overlap with other policies so we need to ask later about the alignment of these policies. Later what is the supporting evidence? this is usually get in touch with friends in the section or in the bureau or whatever it's called law that is because ee regulation is ee violate the rules above or No. Well, we will do that later provide an overview of how how to make it as easy as possible friends here i see a lot once the legal part, the blue law and and so on. Of course, in KPMDA it must be coordinate with the Regional Office For example. or then coordinate with the Ministry of Home Affairs in ee issue or release one regulations such as rules which is good, starting from the Regional Regulation or ee and so on down or if central agencies have certainly done this synchronization and harmonization for a regulation is usually with the Ministry The law that used to be Kumham, then in Peruvian Director General usually and it will becomes our question. This is for see if it is in line with the policies of This is Mr. and Mrs. ee other policies and this become the highest weight in IKK in 2025. Carry on. And last Ladies and Gentlemen for the last dimension and we also learn this together and this is a demand from our society as bureaucrats, as an executive on transparency and this public participation becomes em our concern for IKK 2025 and once again against his policy not to the process, for example, the compilation regulation is not but transparency and public breastfeeding participation towards policies that are the object of measurement. There are only two highlights, ladies and gentlemen. later about access to information policy by the public. Can it be accessed? properly or secretly or just ready as a formality it just turned out to be accessed ee ee not found for example on the web or later it will just be a formality displayed later overnight morning it's gone and we will get it later let's try to learn together that once again our accountability in carry out the mandate of the people the public also needs to know about it. That which is our concern. Then the second halaik in this dimension is a mechanism for the community to provide input or submit object. So complain and others and so on we ask about policy of measurement objectives for example suggestions and so on. but not just ee formality. Once again so is there platforms or what are they called? the media that you have arranged for mechanisms for the community in provide input or submit object. And ladies and gentlemen, we need confirm in the system later that all the answers are up to you, ladies and gentlemen will be tiered. So there's kind of leveling, so complete, incomplete and so on as the system will do calculated which will be our total later will provide qualifications within the value of the quality of the policy is not changed from previous years. So the qualifications will have a value later superior, then falls below it very good, then good and enough and until less. Earlier, the Deputy's message was, we all hope at least the whole government agencies, both central and local the area we are trying to calculate the amount 645 agency more or less that at least good, very good and excellent. If that already excelled yesterday, now this is homework that very heavy because it is heavier maintain rather than achieve it. So this is but we are confident with make a very ee enough change This is significant, we hope that you, ladies and gentlemen, not too much of a burden because we also understand very well, there are lots of things ee models or instruments which you, sir and madam, are also asked for other agencies in order to overall this is at least for realizing good governance in Indonesia. So the dimensions of transparency and this participation is at least 15% because we understand very well, not so much force it, but we start to be able to ee what is it called doing transparency and this public participation is for a policies that have been emphasized. Now, Ladies and gentlemen, please continue this on the screen. this position earlier. So the position This qualification is the same as the year Yesterday. I have already said that at least you are in a good position, very good or excellent. We do not I hope that you and your parents will be sufficient or what is the name of that later ee be PR and please later consult with us too. Carry on Ladies and gentlemen, let's have a little chat. about what could be done earlier apart from what was conveyed by the Director earlier that after the socialization activities today it's ee team determination at least there must be two ee labels the terminology used earlier was coordinator agencies and coordinates and analysts the agency must be in ee determination by our leaders stating here at least if the higher the better. But at least at the local government level yes Regional Secretary or Secretary General or Secretary and so on and so on for shows that it was you, sir or madam be a representative of the agency Yourselves, father and mother. Well, we're a little bit give us an idea of what we will be like later try as soon as possible later ee the system will be ready to be carried out and God willing if it is appropriate with ee target according to our plans for the 25th That June we will once again invite you and we hope the team has been formed so that in On the 25th, you will be able to can run or fill or start submitting something or an object policies within the system that have been we are ready. Well, the important thing is is that we try as quickly as possible after today's socialization we at least starting tomorrow or until by the 25th, sir, approximately Mother, if you can already access the ee system at IKK http://ikk.go. go. And we will inform you later through our social media, via chat If you are a father or mother, you have been contacted by friends who sent private messages yesterday, national coordinator team friends we will become partners later on so become a partner for you in ee administration or implementation of ee This 2025 IKK. Sir, Madam, we will meet later gives an idea that there is a system you must register first carried out by one agency that one the agency is one account that will represented by the name above agency coordinator. Later in the system there will be a picture like this. Now, if for now we haven't really I haven't opened it on purpose so I don't happened and we are fair there is nothing earlier or later but we will be fair when the time comes, um, after This socialization has already started, ladies and gentlemen. can check httpik.go.id go.id if it can be accessed. Then there is a login column what is the login feature and this is the view that at least you see Mom will have to fill it in. Well, here it is what's the name of this one? Letter of appointment. This there is a letter of appointment column. that's what we meant that was an example of assignment letters, decision letters, warrant, whatever its name is there must be an agency coordinator and there must be agency analysts in which they must at least involve JF's friends policy analyst because it has weight 10%. So in this first step, Mr. Mother will register then fill in the NIP and Next and don't forget your cellphone number which is active because later we will be apart from Our system will remind you via japri but only to ee only one is in the coordinator the agency that will be contacted by friends from LAN namely from national coordinator whose name is us give the term is like that. We You need to emphasize it, ladies and gentlemen, God willing with the consultation of our friends or from LAN friends who master about the programs of this system ee it wouldn't be too heavy if you did Mother, later all will upload supporting evidence it has to be done by opening the what is the name of the cloud driver? What is Google Drive, what is it? This is all OneDrive, ladies and gentlemen. So, Sir, Madam, earlier we asked earlier uploaded SK for example SK or letter whatever the name of the assignment letter team SK That's why you have to make a driver first in the cloud, namely from Google either from OneDrive or whatever and it's all in the guide Ladies and gentlemen, we convey this. we give ee examples via Dropbox OK, but don't forget to click which must be accessible to the public. So, don't forget if it's not like that later we won't be able to see. So, that's it importance. So, the steps are If you are ready to register, registering done by one people by completing the name, NIP, and so on and then upload the SK. Dad, Mom, you must be ready. before uploading SK must have eh drive cloud cloud what is it called in cloud which you created yourself and don't forget to open it or it can be accessed by the public. Those are the steps that ee Ladies and gentlemen, what should you do? carried out after socialization activities we just recaped. Hey, Sir, Madam, come soon maybe report to his boss that the IKK in 2025 is only three only policy is the object measurement. Choose the best, choose the one that has supporting evidence is complete. We truly believe that if indeed the policy is good, definitely ee the supporting evidence is ready and that the most important thing is to have an impact which is real or has an impact on public. Because our heavy is a policy has an impact that significant to the ee of society and it will be measured later inside the dimensions we have convey. Ee, that was more or less that's what we said. Hopefully ee with the time we fight deliver it quickly, we'll repeat it later, okay? anything if there are any questions which of course you already know a lot about, ladies and gentlemen I see a lot here. That's right. Now, later ee we can discuss and please if it has been asked by friends or other parents ee can use or divert in other questions. Oh that's it Ladies and gentlemen, we return to the moderator to conduct the session discussion. I end it with blessings the holy land May Allah have mercy and blessings. And peace be upon you and the mercy of Allah May Allah bless you. Thank you for Mrs. Evi's presentation. Very comprehensive once sir and madam yes what was conveyed starting from the beginning how are you, ladies and gentlemen? later do registration to start IKK measurement then how ee questions or points ee question instruments Ladies and gentlemen, you have to fulfill that inside, okay? IKK measurement. So earlier ee should have Sir, Madam, I already have an idea Here's what the strategy will be so that we can get the optimal IKK value. Well, next maybe this is the session that most awaited by you, Sir Ladies and gentlemen, because from earlier on we have also Many people raised their hands and apologized, yes Ladies and gentlemen, please discuss and ask questions answer this ee for the beginning we share first into two sessions where each session later we will receive Three questions from Zoom participants meeting yes, can convey direct questions. Then later for the questions that is in the chat column and in the YouTube column later we will em ee what will we do recap so yeah because there are many questions that come in ee about ee what is it called ee things The technique is similar, right, Mrs. Evi? Later at the end we will answer when ee no one asks directly direct. That's it, ladies and gentlemen, we just start ee for the first session We're going to give you three ee's opportunity for three questioners from Zoom Meeting. Ee and I'm sorry about this what I choose will be fulfilled representation, ladies and gentlemen. So if There will be someone from the ministry later, ee may we ee what is it called? give opportunities for districts and cities or Provinces like that, right, ladies and gentlemen? So ee so it's balanced like that his chance. Um here are some of the ones that have been there since earlier have already done the risign maybe start from Southwest Aceh these are friends Can we raise the hand from the Aceh Provincial Government? Sorry, I meant open camp. Okay. Good, please ee Ma'am from the Aceh Barat Regency Government Power. Then ee from ee I select before, yes, from ee Kemenduk Bangga and then from ee Ministry of Transmigration yes. So three questioners first here. This Ministry of Transmigration representing the newly formed ministry yes. There will be questions later too for other ministries that are new formed. Ee you are welcome to ee ma'am Asnidar yes for ee submitted short, clear, concise questions, yes ma'am yes. Straight to the point to question. Good. Peace be upon you and Allah's mercy and blessings May Allah bless you. Good afternoon Mrs. Ei and Mrs. Contents. Can you hear our voices, Miss? Yes heard Mom. Please. Good. Hey on this good occasion we want to ask because in our district it has never been perform any IKK measurements at all. So ee when our RB value comes out, The IKK value is definitely zero because measurements have never been taken. Now, on this occasion there are several things that we want to ask. Well, related ee who is the admin in that district Are there any conditions, for example? does it have to be this Selon, does it have to be this Japung and it has to be this Kabak or it has to be the Kadis This. That's one because we're still stretching about the management of the KK itself. That's the first one. Well, the second one related to the policy object. It was already is said to be three at most objects the policy is three. So the object What is the policy in the form of? Regional regulations or bylaws or other forms. Well, that's the second one. The third one, e Bu there are quite a lot of questions. So ee that Thirdly, as mentioned earlier, there is an analyst account. ee agency. Well, for analyst accounts is that agency ee the number is there minimum and maximum or must following the number of OPDs in our district and what is the analyst must be BFAK or may be a representative. And the fourth one might be Mrs. E. contract person we can contact when we were discussing about IK. That's all for now, ma'am. Okay. Good. Oh, thank you, Mrs. Asnidar. do you want to answer this directly or do we accommodate first? Is it okay? Hey, it seems like this has already happened appointed three, but the question of Mother This Asnidar represents many of these basic questions and Mrs. Asnidar because it's the first time for district, later if you don't follow I'm looking for Mrs. Asnidar so I have to come and go must God willing must follow and get good grades. Father, This question is from Mrs. Asnidar because basically it will become so that it doesn't exist similar questions ee we start. So the principle is that later You will definitely have contacts person. So the first requirement is there requirements to become a coordinate? It definitely has to be a civil servant, ma'am. So don't until calling the others but for Our position gives this picture. coordinates, the name is coordinator agency so that work or play Jobd's job is to be the first to be able to coordinate internally to fulfill it supporting evidence then discuss which the policy that will be proposed then second is that we will communicate later directly with the coordinator agencies that are on the LAN and this later I will answer the previous one at once, Mbok given the contact person, it will definitely become one instant you will definitely have one later our national coordinator that one Earlier the system could do it but later on agreement of both parties please embarrassed to exchange ee mobile phone numbers to make it easier. Well, later ee it will be able to chat and coordinate with each other. If it's still not clear, ma'am. Asnidar, please contact our hotline to ask and so on. So don't worry, later every the agency will definitely have one contact person whose name is coordinator national our friends Dilan. That The first. So what are the requirements? We do not require positions, but able to do coordination, coordinating, and of course fulfill ee what is it called? questions ee from and supporting evidence from 11 that question is of course a must he must be able to communicate in a internal earlier. Because for example evidence support is in the friends section law or law firm. Then earlier we asked about e-supervision. Oh, being in the company of inspectors inspectorate for example like being them the person concerned will be the agency coordinator is only able to like that. And does he have to have to cfak? I'll jump first because of this the question is related. Agency analyst must follow the number of OPDA or the number of does it have to be JFAK? JFAK should at least is in that team. Does he have to? agency coordinator? We return to Ladies and gentlemen. But between the coordinators agency with agency analysts must involving AK. So it depends on you, sir or madam from the leadership later who will make a coordinator with that earlier the highlight is being able to coordinate to in. Of course this is because everything will happen later, right? we have a timeline, yes, we already have it we mentioned for example early July already or end of June we have started kick off for in the system so have started certain submissions then the time we continue to give in the timeline is there and don't forget eh don't worry there will definitely be a contact person per agency per one ee coordinator national in our place. Later we will I have designed it in such a way. So this is the question ee ee why us Mrs. Aditar, we answered first because once again yes that policy like what? we provide an overview That was the example in the profile Earlier we had the chance to convey this at the beginning of this session, this session is we will ask the name the policy, for example, if want for example my trend i only give this example just an example for example about poverty alleviation in the district for example like that with what is the policy ma'am for example then This policy must of course be supported by legal basis. What is the basis can the policy work? The logic if there is a budget there must be a legal basis which is the basis of the policy the. So what is the policy? the policy is a pro or not it is the action of a leader who realized in the plus regulations later there will be program activities or ee work plan and others so on which is then ee in IKK this is us ee highlight underline about which has a direct impact. So not a policy of a one-off nature maybe there must be some who its nature is internal to the agency for example about the ee furniture update yes Don't do things like that. So that's it have an impact on the ee community because we asked for the best three according to you, sir/madam, so that ee gets what is it called in this IKK to get very-very optimal results. I think so, Mrs. Asnidar, because what district i forgot sorry Aceh Baradaya Regency for the first time times and i thank you we are waiting for your participation later ee will be completed in IKK 2025 if later Aceh Baradaya Regency Government I we look no, wow this is my Buasnider look for it. That's about it, Buasnidar yes. Thank You. Hopefully it can start what is inputted and how? this replacement. That's right, Ms. Isni. Okay, thank you Mrs. Evi. This questions related to agency coordinator, agency analyst yes, the roles that exist in ee measurement There are quite a lot of IKKs, Mrs. Evi. Hey, I also want to discuss this. questions related to ee what is ee agency coordinator and analyst There are several of these agencies, if you ask me what is the name of the government agency apparently not having JFAK that's how ma'am Evie. Then you might as well answer Yes, for those of you who have previously ever sent if mechanism the previous measurements were taken, sir and madam submit yes ee admin agency for what is the name of what is made his account. Well, earlier, according to the explanation Mrs. Evi has already conveyed it to you later. this is the latest measurement, sir Mom will make it herself later, okay? agency coordinator account and ee analyst agency. then ee submissions what you have already conveyed, sir/madam a few months ago yeah before ee This socialization is indeed ee no no processed further, yes sir Mother because the mechanism is experiencing change. Maybe it's Mrs. Evi who can in ee what is it called responded first in the past when this government agency don't have JF how then ee can it be replaced with JFIN? which is relevant. Then also ee the amount How many? Earlier, Mrs. Evi actually already Please also tell us how much it is for agency coordinators and ee analysts the agency itself. Like that. Please, Mrs. Evi, continue. discussion related to the coordinator agencies and analysts of this agency yes. eh it's natural we already suspected that because maybe ee new things must be asking. But with many parents asking this showing interest or enthusiasm from parents to participate in the KK. We very very much ee appreciation for ee questions again if we don't have an agency, you know? discussing agencies. If the unit doesn't exist there is an account maybe it is reasonable or an analyst policy. But we emphasize again that this is one agency. If indeed there really isn't any, then yeah with all due respect ee what's it called? The point earlier Sir, Madam, you haven't been able to achieve that 10% yet, but can it be replaced? other? Certainly can. So for example replaced means that it will involve JF planner, JF researcher, JF ee what his name? Legal analyst or designer invite it's up to you. But because we is being ee is doing policy quality index and of course in ILAN policy analyst that is policy analyst development agency. So this is what is called sounding too for us. If it is the agency don't have contact Dilan yet. You can later assisted at Wise Friend. Later, ladies and gentlemen will be directed if the matter of becoming an AK where is it going? We with all ee humble, with all pride from your questions, it will help Ladies and gentlemen, oh, the process is like this this is how it explains and indicated to which unit or directorate where in our place we handle things the. So once again the question basic if there is no AK it seems 10% bonus Sir/Madam, sorry not yet can sir and madam rai but sir and madam still have a 90 chance of 90 points which means in the previous qualification that's at least very good sir Mom, so don't let me or we If you don't have an AK, then don't bother so there are still many opportunities to can answer 90 questions Then for the amount of ee why do we give freedom It seems like our parents gave us the picture is just like this. Remember, one of our agencies asked for three policy. Each policy answers 11 the question we asked earlier. That means answering that plus data support it. So logically later at least it could be the maximum There were 33 pieces of supporting evidence. Well, ladies and gentlemen how many people are needed to be able to fulfill supporting evidence for that? Say one the policy is three people. Say yes These are just examples, not mandatory but three. That means there are three policies then a 3 * 3 9 agency analyst is needed. Suppose the picture is like that. So what about the agency coordinator? We continue to deliver and recommend the name of the coordinator. His name is just one head, ma'am. Don't lots and lots. Later if he has two heads confused which one to coordinate will actually have an impact on that question earlier. Yes register. So registration we provide one the agency is one account that then that one account will be done by the agency coordinator. Who was the agency coordinator? We already gave the answer to Mrs. West Aceh. I'll apologize later remember again that whether it should be officials in principle as long as possible coordinate, can communicate, can work with very em collaboration with his friends in the same agency please choose and of course the leader Ladies and gentlemen have separate considerations. Moreover, earlier after the number was already if you don't have an AK, what then? register yes register it later by the system we gave an example of earlier ee later click on ikk.co.id co.id. Don't now because we we did it on purpose haven't activated it yet so that later it won't happen what kind of language do kids use nowadays? too much fomo if it hangs later but we will start gradually tomorrow please check against httpikk.cgo.id and one agency one registration with there must be someone to fulfill that uploaded about team SK or SAT command and so on and so on. And the submission will be stored in in the cloud, in the drive that you have, Mom made it herself and must be able to do it opened to the public. That's it, Ms. Isni. can others? Yes Okay, Mrs. Eli, there's a little ee Miss Eki left behind regarding the decree, sir Mother. The SK can be accessed later. Example of SK what we said earlier is possible accessed in ee material later can be what can the ee material be made into? Can it be used as an example? by Mr. Mrs. ee to prepare the SK PIM. Well, earlier there was also something Ask Mrs. EDI, this is 1 decree, one policy or 1 SK one measurement? It also exists the question. Then earlier too Wait a minute, let me see the question first. Um. Okay. Oh yeah, that was related to Who is the agency coordinator? Is ee eslon 2 or eslon 3? Later, when the coordinator of this agency be the contact person regarding IKK I'm afraid later on it will become make coordination difficult due to busyness he. So, Mrs. Evi, what's up? his name? There are technical constraints in the field. That's right, Mrs. E. Maybe in ee Please respond, ma'am. Okay, thanks. Thank you, Ms. Isni. I think it was already there. So who is the agency coordinator? I start from there first. We submit. If I were to draw a picture, it would be don't make it one what? Templates. This means that there was, for example, if it's too high, it's busy, right? If the official is not busy, it is necessary Asked yes sir, madam yes. But at least busy but still there commit. So what was needed earlier even if he is able because of what we Asked to register earlier, that was the number That active WA will be very easy. So don't let it get checked twice but reply next year or next month. Well, it's things like that ee that we direct the coordinator the agency that has the energy that very ee what dynamic. I do not say young or old or senior or whatever, but as long as you have dynamic energy ee positive and I think I can do that, I'm willing to carry out communication that is intense. If you have any questions please contact us LAN which will later be represented by national coordinator, then please or want to point out ee AK which for example is It's enough, I'm capable, please do it too. So we don't give the limits should be who, but we directing the team's SK must signed by them leaders who at least that have a high position or the term is probably at least middle JPT ee that will show that oh this is SK what team might the leader ask. Well, that's how he will knowing oh there is IKK measurement. For example, earlier the mother was from West Aceh, you know. what is this? Well, this is our Sir yesterday Never. Well, now it's time for us West Aceh shows and so on etc. That's the picture is our efforts to post ee encourage Ladies and gentlemen or we all do collaboration within. So, collaboration We don't have to act like we want it invite friends from outside, but friends in in fact abandoned. So don't like that. So we will not state whether eslon or not. Please. Is it JF or what has been have JF em madya or utama in JF whatever, please, because he will later able to coordinate and communicate. But again we remind you that among the teams there must be JFAK. Now, Can 1 SK represent three? the policy earlier? We return fully. If it's more effective, it's more Well, the team was one because later related to that earlier, ladies and gentlemen must coordinate. So back again mindset that must be built in IKK 2025 is the year for you, ladies and gentlemen representing your agency Mother. So we are not talking work unit, OPD, service or whatever name, directorate or whatever, but we are talking about one institution, agency government. And that's what we hope for later Sir, ma'am, you can understand. So suppose if we push it more because that was one agency one account so that team must have already covers for the benefit of three policies that will be the object measurement and it matters. Hopefully in Here it starts to become clear. Later if there is anything more or less possible to be co-covered the other friends remain. Oh yes, examples of all of them will be later provided by Ms. Isni inside know whether to go through a link or whatever. We very very transparent, we are very open. We want to not just want to take measurements, but we together to realize that in the future one day Indonesia is seen from the world international policy has started improving in very good condition and that is also thanks to the participation or commitment from you in ee encourage or follow, realize or make IKK 2025 a success Sis. Carry on. Bij. Good. Good. Accept Thank you, Mrs. Evi. So it's clear, right Sir? Mother, regarding who the agency coordinator is, good agency analyst for those who already have have done IKK or not Have you ever done IKK, Sir or Madam? Oh then we moved earlier I welcome from the Ministry of Education and Culture Proud ee from BKKBN. Please, Mr. ee with Who is your father? I will mention his name later. eh the agency yes. Please Sir yes. Good morning. Peace be upon you warahmatullahi wabarakatuh Mrs. Evi. Thank you for your explanation. Mother moderator for the opportunity. Accept love. My name is Uki from the Ministry of Education and Development National Education Standards Board. I ask for your permission, Mother, I understand. because there are so many questions. I just two short questions and This is back to the substance, sorry. Hey, first of all, I would like to ask permission from Mrs. Evi, Mrs. moderator if you allow we would like to given the most examples ideal ee formulation of three policies. Maybe just one, ma'am, or two. The problem is like this, we will write to our Minister. Only eh what is the wording like? ideally according to LAN, that's it. We I'm worried it's not enough. For example For example, here, ma'am, in our office it is a policy to reduce prevalence stunting is enough or do we have to more details for example clearer again the policy of reducing prevalence stunting through program enhancement family planning already exists the strategy or more detailed again so the policy is to reduce stunting prevention through increasing family planning program by prioritizing methods long-term contraception. So this is it there are many dimensions of policy. Well, the wording is the right measure According to LAN, that's what it's like. So, Our Minister is clear about that. Oh, Mr. Oki means this policy for example which we choose that way. So ee there is an idea like that and we are all the same one government, all KLs are the same formulate it. The second one is this IKK very interesting. We are even in our ministry office is used as That's right, one of our KPIs. index the quality of this policy. Well, because of that in our Rstra performance tree it is ee we compile this IKK into a KPI from the four dimensions of IKK measurement if I'm not mistaken, that's in eson the other one is ee planning policy continues policy benefits Oh, I see. Then in echelon 2 is ee implementation of the policy then public satisfaction with the implementation policy. Well, that's how we make the index. or the score value or percentage. The question is whether it is true or not like that? Lower the case scanning it became like that. From eh IKK made a KPI like that. In level 1 eslon is like that, eson 2 of them are like that. If in class 1 earlier the benefits of planning and usefulness. Eson 2 is the implementation and public satisfaction with policies. Even if it's true, what is the weight? which is more preferred, prioritized the bigger one where? Thus, Mrs. Evi and Mrs. moderator. Thank You. Okay. Okay, thank you Mr. Uki for meeting us. we'll be back, sir. Yes, maybe it's Mrs. Evi, there are two of them. related questions from Mr. Uki with ee the most ideal example, yes, policies that will be the object measurement. Well, this is also important, right, Ma'am? Evi yes for EE KL and EE local government agencies others like that to determine how is the policy going to be later? can be submitted as ee object measurement. And the second one is extraordinary This is very common in ee Kemenduk Bangga ee IKK is adopted as an indicator main performance. Well, maybe earlier ee The question is, is it appropriate? the indicator that ee is derived as key performance indicators are perhaps Mrs. Ei, please respond first yes. Thank You. Wow, this Mr. Uki Uki cheated asking here, okay? Accept Thank you, Mr. Uki. But these ladies and gentlemen is em learning for us everything. So that means ee we do ee what is the name of this update to ee what are the instruments in this IKK. Theme Maybe you, ladies and gentlemen, have already following 2021-2023 with so many questions 39 we try Squish Kemis ee pack in a 11th. Well, this is Mr. Uki's question. interesting. Hey, please help Miss Tisa if It's not wrong, Miss Tisa, please slide the slides replaced. I ask Mr. Uki's permission to ask about just went to the profile. So hopefully this can work get the picture. So an example of that most ideally we would not convey his words ee perfection belongs only to God, Mr. UGI. So in principle we provide how our thinking patterns to be able to know that okay this is the policy that we will implement ee conveys or ee is used as an object measurement. The first one was earlier looking at Mr. Uki's question relation to the names that are more details, more details, more details. The context is like this, Mr. Uki. Name that policy we will not see oh the more sophisticated the name, the more you can get it later mark. There isn't any. So in the profile this is part of us to capture or grab data that later for our benefit to do deep analysis in our framework ee carry out studies or analysis related to the quality of policy yeah. Then what is the context with What's the question, Mr. Uki? Is there more to it? more specific which would be better? The context is like this, Mr. Uki. in points the name of the program or activity that the picture is red, that red picture is usually not usually later in the system we will ask about the connection with em screenshot or PDF of RKKL, sir. That means he is usually in RKKL, RKKL is that what is the work plan? Plan ministry work and budget or institutions and so on. her name is ee ee You must be familiar with this nature, ladies and gentlemen. it usually has a name in the program name then there is slash activity, there is then what is the name and the amount of the ceiling and and so on and so forth. Well, the naming That is of course, ladies and gentlemen, this is a policy it's already running so we don't are talking about planning. So, Sir, Madam, it's not really difficult, just choose which one is the best which can ee fulfill from some what the four dimensions we asked about earlier we have already highlighted it directly I wonder where the stress is going and you consider whether ready with evidence data supporting evidence what is it called ee later ee will accompany in answering question. So, Mr. UGI, we don't will give too much later we will I'm worried if it's too regulated what template will the policy be called later? diverse in ee what institution this 645 it will be ee what is our name must examine at least one by one although in our system there are already few started involving AI technology but But later humans will provide it decision but that's our effort to together we make efforts improving the quality of policies. So If asked which one is good? As long as you have carried out the logic goes that it already exists budget. The budget will definitely be contained in what we just mentioned giving an example is RKKL. Possible in our area the name is not familiar but there must have been there must have been there what is the name of the program? Follow me sir, take it that's all. And then there's the ceiling. And later this ceiling will have this impact which is called harmony, Mr. Uki. We later will ask about the evaluation in the third dimension, evaluation and sustainability. There is a process there monitoring. So if later on when there is evidence to support the RKKL, we will see its suitability with do the supervision. Well, if later The name of the RKKL is A, the supervision name is policies that other programs yes of course that would be the first note. Once again the example is actually easy. Just start the way you choose, sir/madam start from the program that you have do that it must be proven that in the first time it already exists the budget that was implemented because This has once again been implemented. So usually it's called RKKL what is the name of the program and what is the budget? how many snapshots or nothing Don't take the PDF snapshot, maybe not not the whole thing but at least proves that in the RKAKL system Your policy has been absolutely valid so it's not not essays and so on and us there is also a method to verify it later ee of course that this really already running ee well and was implemented in ee This has been selected for the year activities also apply. Then the question the second one from Mr UGI it seems We apologize without meaning to for em lecture lecture about policy. Mr Uki's principle is that there is we appreciate what em is about the name of this IKK can be combined into one ee what ee that is very interesting. But we emphasize basically ee heavy in 2025 and this becomes one thing that is a shared commitment. I think we think not only from LAN, but all even society wants see what the impact is from a policy that has been walking and this becomes our motivation usually we are very emm ee sophisticated or neat in making a plan. Then in the implementation the implementation may be a little there ee modifications and so on. in then spontaneity and so on. But in our evaluation we will see if em what is it called ee This evaluation has a very big impact good towards ee society especially and this is also of course the form of our accountability in run programs or the policies we have set in advance. Then what is it? is it correct or not? I think what is the logic Uki with all due respect because if we have to tell a story about for example the theory of evaluation have power in 2017 or for example use the theory of total quality management mm what's his name daming 2000 ee 1 year how much is 2008 eh sorry how much is 19 for me It's been a while since I've read, but... in principle, the name of a policy is he should at least set the agenda or in its planning. Then the implementation then there is ee what the name is ee the formulation first, evaluate it first, then later on ee what is monitoring, evaluation and ee monitoring. Ah, that's the usual one ee we use. which principle is it? heavy, everything is heavy. If but in in IKK coincidentally ee for this year we started and pushed that for meaningful impact is measured in the third dimension, evaluation and sustainability have the weight of ee is quite large for the year This 2025. Because we want us both show the public, to the public that the policy it has been running it is indeed ee at least has led to prosperity from society, people, public, and and so on. And we are trying to get to there, slowly we are together encourage that between our agencies later it will reach the standards that we have used and the instruments we have compiled. God willing, that's the case for us too based on research and methodology we have also adjusted the methodology with the theories we mentioned earlier some just mention because of this I'm sorry, Mr. Uki, we'll... too many lectures are not appropriate This. So hopefully it will start to happen overview and later if you want to discuss once again thank you Mr UI for join. ee finally meet again we and This will be one agency later one friend of the national coordinator who Ladies and gentlemen, as long as the time is right please consult report difficulties or tell your hotline, friend We are wise. That's it, Mr. Uki, thank you. ee, you can do it next, Ms. Isni. Okay, thank you, Mrs. Evi. Mr. Uki. Next, there was ee from the Ministry Transmigration ee was on the forum earlier. Oh okay. Good. Good. Please, ladies and gentlemen, come ask a question. Oh okay, thank you, Ms. Isni. Mrs. Evi permission to ask. There are some questions from us from the Ministry of Transmigration. Firstly, Ma'am, how are you treated? assessment of us ee Ministry New, how is the assessment process? Then the second one will come later submitted by agency coordinator that's ee development policy What kind of strategic document is it? Does it refer to the work document? scientific writing or ee in question what document is it? Well, ee regarding I also have this question The previous question was a follow up from Ministry of Population and Civil Registry of the Republic of Indonesia. Will it be enough later? the document in question is ee screenshot of RKAKL? Then, it was said earlier that three the policy conveyed is ee three. Well, what if it's less than three? Does it meet the assessment criteria? only reduced in value or ee at least it is required three? Then ee ee next question regarding JFAK's involvement. Is that what what is meant is the team SK that was received JFAK ee in implementing activities activities of the ee policy that proposed. Then ee the next question ma'am for ee screenshot of RKAKL that means it has to be RKAKL 2022 2324 where in that period ee transmigration not yet become an independent institution but ee is part of the Ministry of Villages PDT which only covers echelon 1, namely Directorate General. That's it, Mom. Thank You, yes. Good. Hey, there are a few questions, yeah? related to how to do this for ee there are several new ministries, yes, how the policy is proposed, then then also the uploaded document what it looks like. This is also at the same time Mrs. Evi, were you from the Ministry? Transmigration asks yes, if the policy is less than three ee this How? can it be reduced such an assessment, yes. Hey, earlier too In the chat column, someone asked something. similar. Then I also asked at the same time related to the previous policy. Oh, if ee three proposed policies are In ee, the criteria were ee policies that come into effect in 2022, 2023 and 2024, right? Well, what are the three the policy must represent each of these periods or ee That's fine, yes, that's fine just in 1 year for example all ee policy 2022 or 2023 and beyond. Oh and one more here ee Bu Evi related to the policy Also. Oh yes, is it okay to use the previous policy ee already ever measured like that. So this is specifically for us answer related to ee object Mrs. Evi's measurements, yes. Maybe that's it Mrs. Evi, can you respond first? Oh, I clicked the wrong thing. Thank you, Mom. from the Ministry of Transmigration and this when the moderator was elected because he was in In 2025, there will be many ministries that will do something his name is ee ee separated it means parting to unite something like that for the ministry new, for example, the Ministry of Trans and this hopefully answers to agencies or ministries who experienced for example the Ministry of Human Rights which now ee ee becomes three for example like that. Ee then ee included That was Mr. UKI from the PKKBN chairman then became a ministry. Now The principle is like this, ladies and gentlemen, the question is whether it is because we have not become ministry yes it's okay we already considering that. This is the measurement Remember, ladies and gentlemen, measurement is not only do we get awards, rewards and so on, but effort us for how the policies owned by government agencies or built or created by government agencies can really e is measurably beneficial for the society because we are ee the perpetrator so that he gets there. So in general Technically, Ms. ee, we welcome you Ministry of Transmigration maybe yesterday Director General and that's because 2022, 2023, 2024 we are very sure especially echelon 1 must have activity programs we gave the picture earlier There is a program on that slide. Well, that's it enough is conveyed and we know Mother ministries or agencies that are doing what is there ee process of change within its nomenclature and so on. God willing, in us as ee What is the name? IKK organizing agency also have done detection and that That's why that profile is the profile that is The front page that you have to fill in is First of all, that's very, very ee affect what is the name of ee policies that you, sir, madam, convey later. Well, is it? the policy can only be valid for 1 year 2022 only or in 2013? We invite you to you, ladies and gentlemen, if you want to become a the benchmark to see us by we are now talking about friends from the ministry of ladies and gentlemen from the Ministry of Transmigration. We assume that previously in the Directorate General What will transmigration be like in 2022? 2023, 2024 have a confident program yes this has a very big impact Good. Then with us earlier already shows the indicators, dimensions, then highlight stressing Please select the question. Even if not fulfilled every year yes it's okay just of course but range must remain in 2022, 2023 or 2024. Once again this is unnoticed Actually, whether you like it or not, ladies and gentlemen, must coordinate within to determine which policies later ee will be submitted as an object. So once again even though Mas at that time still the Director General is okay, but because the stress of the policy is how to give an action, the program of activities that then have a significant impact what ee towards society. Therefore, the use of terms in the IKK is strategic development policy. So The question above is the most correct one maybe ee 2022 already ee 2000 whatever Sir or Madam, if you want to take it annually, you can. or 1 year there is fine. Oh yeah, if if it doesn't reach three, check the period it's not that far. Moreover, as big as Director General, you know, it could be like this for example that's it. Hey try to make it come back if we can't go from the top back down program. We saw that in the profile, right? we want to see the program then sir Mom can see what to start looking for about the programs that have been financed because once again the policy which is already running so it definitely exists the cost. If there is no cost it feels hard ee to be able to do what ee ee ee ee is running well, termination well, unless there are rules in place outside the government budget, for example grants and so on and so on. But grants are also included in the mechanism and that which we are sick of. So if there is what if there are only two questions? even though we see it like that That's impossible, right? But Even if we have to, we have our system set up in such a way that Mom that if already machine means we see three it is to see how emm what is the name of the propriety of us taking the measurement object if only one if only two that's the feeling right Later, more or less what it's called does not meet the rules, for example, even though these three are also controversial but we of course have a foundation We apologize for the theory earlier, please allow us to to you, ladies and gentlemen, you must have a little touching on his theory total eh quality management then policy evaluation theory and so on and so on then take it then we again do not use population and sampling but make eh best practice is why it's best practice is to give something according to you, the best and that's it theoretically ee we can ee convey it because it is part of our consideration. Why our Father taking the object of measurement is to submit just the best? So from the best This practice will usually be more effective and efficient to see whether it is true or not It's already best practice, what do you think? have you been able to fulfill what ee is? the name is ee supporting evidence supporting evidence which is as we have arranged inside instrument. Well, that's roughly the picture. like that, Mom. And hopefully, Sir, Mothers at the Ministry of Transmigration don't Don't be discouraged. we are actually ee have attention and don't worry Mom, we know friends who what are you currently doing? what changes have occurred in the agency? We also note it so that it will definitely be there later we see ee oh this used to be Director General. But back again if proven by the existence of the program what was proven logically was of course there is funding. funding proven with RKKL and so on and so on and so on. Of course it has become part of the policy. What else? the other one, what was it about, Mbak ee? moderator ee maybe the document that was uploaded earlier It's been answered, right, ma'am? If so There's a little bit of ee too, Mrs. ee, to add to this related to the previous policy, is it possible? using measured policies previous year. Yes Well, then also one more thing ma'am because now what is the condition of deregulation? Oh, I see. So ee what's the name agency that said that the policy they are temporary in nature. So only 1 2 years. Well, if the policy has been revoked for example can it be submitted as measurement object. This might be ee specific policy ee in the form of products the law, yes ma'am. like that. Please ma'am Evi responded yes. Thank You. Ah, so there's writing on this, huh? Oh the perpetrator what if the policy reduced? Oh, that was it. Then SK my policy measurement I ask for in Is the form of the document sufficient with just RKAKL screenshot? So our screenshot If possible in PDF it would be better. But if for example the screenshot doesn't what it just proves. Return Mom if a program is really funded by the state budget what is it APBN, APBD and so on are only there prove. So we are not create one ee policy name or a program that is hypothetical in nature because this has already happened in the past. Then what was your question earlier, Mbak? Isni if it turns out that this activity what is the name of the policy ee it has been withdrawn the regulation that was withdrawn we asked that is the regulatory policy whether withdrawn whether it is replaced or not integrated with the regulations other. Well, this is what you, ladies and gentlemen, have to do. careful. Once again we apologize didn't mean to teach you sir Mom, but the principle of regulation is one of the outputs, the output form of policy. So it doesn't have to be regulation policy, but one of its outputs is regulation. What if the regulation is withdrawn but the policy it's almost the same and it has an impact which is very significant? that was earlier That profile, ladies and gentlemen, we will ee Ladies and gentlemen will choose that first that year and we are talking about the year of implementation is not in progress talking about the current year. So if Ladies and gentlemen, I feel this is the best In fact, it will be interesting later, why? or there are good policies, regulations good and so on. implementation is good, evaluation is good good, why was it dismissed? Well, this one It's a common question, sir, madam. later when ee is in the dimension that Thirdly, there is an evaluation and sustainability. Well, that's what you, ladies and gentlemen, will do. make our findings also if you Mom wants to say that, what's going on? and that will bring the analysis into existence This is interesting from a friend. So, Ladies and gentlemen, we are not just asking Ladies and gentlemen, then we just took out output in the form of numbers, values, credits, predicates, and so on. But God willing, we will carry out an analysis. So, how do I em ee what capturan from e-policy in government agencies what is it like. Keep it up I think so, sir, madam. So if indeed sure because the rules are already revoked, this is revoked or replaced here. Well, that has to be more thorough. So make sure first actually his thought pattern was pulled from earlier we had this program last year this and that we support the data or The supporting evidence is clear. for example from involvement, from to level of public satisfaction, basically that's about it. Problem it turns out that in 2025 this is not the case running we convey that precisely it will be interesting later why and that will be be input whether it can be repeated e this policy for example or because the agency changed. So, for example, earlier friends who transmigrated before from The Director General is now at the Ministry Transmigration and so on and and so on. So please go ahead considered. Not only ter ee depends on one aspect for example aspects of its regulations there isn't any. Once again, please allow me to you, ladies and gentlemen, that the policy does not always or only regulation but The policy at least covers program regulations and then how how to implement it and the impact it has on society. 1 2 3 4 5 I think that's all of them. SK team How? That's it, that's it I think already this, what else? Yes Okay eh It seems like everything has been answered, right? Ladies and gentlemen. Hopefully it's clear with what delivered by Mrs. Evi. Oh three questioners we have invited you too questions via chat column and the YouTube chat column is also available Earlier, some of us answered like that. Oh Mrs. Evi's permission. Shall we open the second session? to ask directly or like what? Carry on. Carry on. We'll have more discussions, okay? There's been a lot of it since then eh what his name? Raise hand. This is what I choose several, yes, three people. Direct I spotlight so I don't forget. Oh this from from A moment from the West Kalimantan Provincial Government perhaps. Please. Then from ee PK District was also a district ee city maybe yes. Batu City was a city Rock. Okay, please from Batu City. Then from ee ee from oh wait a minute from the district ee bintan district yeah oh star yes. Please, ladies and gentlemen from West Kalimantan it's submitted first the questions are short, clear, and straight to the point. Please please welcome, ladies and gentlemen from West Kalimantan. Hello, participants from the West Kalimantan Provincial Government we invite you to apply question. Please my voice is heard right? Yes His voice has not been heard from the ladies and gentlemen West Kalimantan. I This has just been opened by the host, Sis that's why it can't be heard. Okay. Yes, get ready. Please, sir. Thank You. We are actually from the West Kalimantan Provincial Government It's been answered earlier, Mom. But we I regret not being firm about this, Ma'am. So, if it's in this local government, Ma'am, later you can... throw if there is none firmness of who will be the coordinator like that. I happen to be the Head of the Legal Bureau, Madam. So indeed we in West Kalimantan have been discussing this since last year. Because actually in the Ministry of Law there is also similar measurements, ma'am. Its name is index legal reform. Our hope is actually what is the meaning of legal reform index? This policy quality index can integrated with the reform index law. So the local government doesn't have any most of what is measured, Mom. Please allow me. Local governments have many limitations including resources, Mom. So if most of the tasks from the central government We'll be busy measuring later, Mother, won't we? busy working. So please accept this considered for 2026 and we also really hope there is a certainty as to who becomes This is the team leader, Ma'am. This is if throwing like this we are the same regional devices are uncomfortable, ma'am. Yes right? If the accumulation of leadership Later, we'll throw things at each other, Ma'am. instead it wasn't done like that. But we continue to strive for optimal meet the measurements that have been the indicators are set and as a consideration, yes, ma'am. So the dynamics are indeed in the local government. mother may have served in local government So maybe you can get an idea dynamics of policy formation it's very dynamic ma'am. There is a regional head which within a day is requested to be determined a regional head regulation. So also with the existing DPRD the regional head's regulations are still stubborn want to form regional regulations. This the dynamics that exist in local government and this should be a note DLAN friends so the measurements that were taken were also taking these dynamics into account. We are at The regional government, Ma'am, is led by the regional head. We couldn't possibly say no. We are definitely ready to implement it. Well, this one that need to be considered in LANs so what is being measured is this yes in the real world it's like that, ma'am. If The ideal concept, yes, we agree, ma'am This is ideal, there must be planning, there must be there's blah blah blah, that's the ideal. However in reality it's like that local government. That's all, Mom. On In principle, we in West Kalimantan are ready to meet the quality index measurement policy. But once again without reduce respect please clarify who should be coordinator so that there is no throwing of blame between regional devices. Thank You, Ma'am, yes. Okay, thank you, sir. Mrs. Evi. Permission. Do you want to be responded to directly or by us? just respond straight away, okay? There were two questions related to that earlier. with ee who is the guarantor answer in the area especially yes. Then the second one is how are the dynamics the policy is formed in the region. Maybe that's what Mr Miro meant earlier is a regulation maybe, ma'am. come back again yeah. So when we talk regulation indeed ee what is it called ee there is the political dynamics there are the background behind. Well, maybe that could be it responded ma'am. Please. Thanks. Thanks Mr. West Kalimantan Provincial Bureau. Oh if you look at em then the firmness this is a firm delivery it seems suitable to be a coordinator. I think so like in my opinion yes in my opinion. but this em not be one template that regulates because we will remain ee what is it called? We return. Therefore, why we conveyed the invitation to for socialization to the secretary area for friends ee agency local government and at least in Secretary General or Principal Secretary and onwards to the central government and so on and ministries and so on it is to show in principle we were talking about it as a representative. You understand very well, Mr. Biro, that there is IRH, there is IKK and both are part from what is the name of the element that is measured in in RB bureaucratic reform. So we also have often discussed with KUM friends related to the index legal reform is usually in place there. For our IKK why we not conveying must be firm? sometimes being too firm is too ee firm can be misinterpreted become a kind of rule. Even though the name is policy once again this is what em his name is ee must collaborate, there is inspectorate, there is planning, there is law. Because once again this is related to we understand very well sir that ee policy once again regulation is not the only or ee product of a policy. The policy may include about actions, about programs and it must then be based on a new legal product new legal product appears there. and we are not ee measure about ee regulation later the realm of friends in the reform index law and so on. Therefore, because according to the title index quality policy that LAN is the supervisory agency of policy analysts, So the target of our RPJMN is how is the evaluation governance about the quality of the policy is the target we. IKK is one of the instruments to be able to realize ee targets which have been determined by the regulations Presidential Decree Number 12 of 2025 concerning the RPJMN. So this is indeed a form of our cooperation and we can also understand that you don't only local government friends from the center I was also assigned from the center, sir. So our friends also have to fill in ee some um what are they called instruments, be it measurement from IRH too. Then there are the others also up to even ee what is it called ee Inspectorate and so on and so on next it's about planning There are also friends from BAPENAS. So everything is heading there. If we want to claim something success without any instrument It seems like it will be a bit difficult later on can be accounted for either academically and ee later it will be technocratic. So that's it which we thank you ee from friends West and we firmly believe that with involvement and continuing to follow it actually shows commitment from West Kalimantan Province in terms of ee prove that its policies it is capable or indeed to be aimed that for the benefit of the community extensively. And ladies and gentlemen once again without any intention and permission from Sir Sir If you look at the bureau, it's clear, Mr. Bureau. it's suitable so ee what is it called ee the agency coordinator is approximately just kidding sir. It means back again we convey that it is all please, the important thing is that the essence can be understood coordinate, be able to communicate, be able to later coordinate in what matters fulfillment of supporting evidence and answer and can chat online relaxed, comfortable with elan and Don't worry, it's only 11, sir. We just one side of the supporting evidence and God willing, the Kalpar province will as in previous years too later it will be better better and be an example of other provinces. Accept Thank you sir. Okay, thank you Mrs. Evi for that. the response. Hopefully it has been answered yes. It must have been answered for Mr. E. Next from Batu City Regional Secretariat please. Hopefully no questions asked things that have been answered before, yes, Ladies and gentlemen. Please ask questions others so that knowledge and ee our understanding is more comprehensive That's how it is with IKK. Please sir. Okay, thank you, Mrs. Moderator, Mrs. Isni, and Mrs. Evi as the speakers. Oh we are from the City Bike organization section Batu ee really appreciates the activities socialization of quality measurement This policy can increase our insight for ee IKK measurement which will be held in 2025 This. Hey, Mrs. Evi, please give us permission. also inform that Batu City has carry out EE measurements in 2024 Yesterday. Oh, that's the measurement. prime we follow and our ee at that time it got a good value like That. And our commitment this year for ee to be able to accelerate or increase our value within this IKK assessment. Eh in line with that commitment, Mrs. Evi and Mrs. Isni, we want to ask ee that we also is currently preparing planning documents and almost possible in every region right because the planning year is being prepared RPJMD document also simultaneously with that compose RENSTRA documents in each SKPD. Well, we at the Regional Secretariat would like to making this IKK ee as ee our SKPD key performance indicators, Ma'am Evie. Well, ee because it is in line with the task the regional secretary helps to help The mayor formulates policies so that we want to ensure the quality of the policy that ee can represent anything which is already listed in the dimensions measurement of the IKK. Well, who wants to We asked Mrs. Evi whether It is possible that this IKK is measured every years because as a form performance accountability of ee promised as stated in performance agreement document. Because of us I also had a discussion with several academics during the preparation process our Renstra document that ee should The ee that is used as IKK is the one can be measured every year, said Mrs. Evi. Oh. So that's our question. Whether This IKK can be measured in certain cases every year as a form of performance accountability of a agency or SKPD? That's it, Mrs. Evi. Thank you, Mrs. Isni. We return it. Okay, thank you ee from the section organization. Maybe this is a question That's quite short, isn't it, Mrs. Evi? We'll see you later already have the answer yes and ee we continue on to Bintan Regency first. Hey, please submit your questions. Hopefully not repeating the question previously. Please, ma'am. Well, thank you for the opportunity. given. Peace be upon you and Allah's mercy and blessings May Allah bless you. Good afternoon, best wishes to us all. Hey, thank you moderator and Madam source person. Ee short and concise our question. Alhamdulillah for ee We have participated in the second IKK the first time where we were originally ranked 45th nationally with score 58.66 has been promoted to rank 8 national level with a score of 85.95. we are very proud and can follow again this year. Oh Our question is short, is it possible? we as the initiator in terms of ee Perbobi to be given more appreciation? Permission, ma'am, as motivation and support us for our hard work as a team. Because to compile this Perbuk, right? we are not alone. whether in the form of ee KPLB or something like that. Yes, that's how it is ma'am. So it's like we want to as the initiator of this ee also increasingly enthusiasm in implementing because there is ee there are a few things we can learn as the initiator in implementing duties as ASN. This is indeed a task us, but if for example get a good and capable ee predicate increase the value, is it not? it would be better if we were the initiators too given any appreciation its shape. Maybe that's the only question from us, Bintang. Greetings of good health always. May Allah grant you guidance and guidance. Peace be upon you and Allah's mercy and blessings May Allah bless you. Good, Good. Thank you eh from Batu City and Bintan Regency is the one that challenges we Mrs. Evi ee to do IKK measurement every year. The one ee please ask for more appreciation like that for ee implementing IKK measurement in government agencies. Oh please, Mrs. Evi. give a response. Okay, thank you ee from the Batu City Satria organization and Mother mothers I saw it mothers in here. So we as fellow mothers must We have to be united, Mom. So thank you love from Bintan Regency appreciation already achieved. And later we chat. I'm coming to Mr. ee from the city Rock. I am in Batu City. Challenge not a challenge, what is it actually? it has occurred to me, sir, God willing So prayer is not actually our Father's prayer We are on the same frequency, sir. So maybe I forgot earlier from the deputy until the director said that IKK 2025 until then it will be done per year. indeed it is done annually because it becomes ee beside logic we frame our thinking here is the first besides us being have a set target by the Presidential Decree in the RPJMN which each years up to 2000 ee 29 there are certain targets that must be achieved fulfilled and it is true in something finally we have to think oh means it must be done sustainably continuously sustainability and often correlated. It becomes a relationship. The second thing we would like to say is that why does it have to be every year for ee what his name is ee IKK one of them is wrong one component in the RB assessment bureaucratic reform. Isn't it RB? done annually so that it doesn't happen empty then logically it is IKK too must fulfill from there. So we thank you if 2024 has been done You can't slack off when starting, sir. Carry on then you have to get there, ee, the highest later. No way. But if 101 doesn't work, sir. The dead end 100 points, yeah. So how do you do it? to be able to be full, to be able to continue at least survive or must improve there? The third, the reason why the argument has to be every year the name is something, sorry again without meaning to have to theorize, which the name of the index must be done continously. so that later we will have one pattern which can then be we index it is one process, the results of the indexing and the values it could be like ee pattern work a value of policy including from IKK. The name of the index is must be done continuously, routinely and then we can conclude within the indexing itself. So, is it from you, sirs or not? there is a name, I can try to sound it out Sir, from the Batu City Regional Secretariat. Thank You. Later, if Batu City gets a bad score or even if you don't come, I'll come to you because my house is not far from there, Pack. That's roughly how it will be, yeah? That's roughly the joke, sir. Then from Head of Bintan Regency Government. Wow, I we appreciate the value immediately increase. But we need to return it highlight that for 2025 please let us start one frame that not only the form of regulation as an object, but policy. Once again that was us I will keep repeating like this so that you understand the definition the policy is not only limited to regulation but ee what is it called ee very high appreciation Mrs. ee Moms. Well, it's okay with us. a bit gender neutral. Mothers of PEMPAP Bintan Regency one attended from this socialization, then follow even asking without meaning anything Mom, please check on your screen. 936 who listens to how the Pemkap Bintan or these mothers are able shows that the governor's regulations yesterday what was conveyed reached outlier. So the mother's efforts have paid off heard by at least 93 sometimes 38 sometimes 37 that's outside YouTube. Sorry my YouTube screen doesn't show up monitor. But please check on YouTube that means we apologize Nowadays appreciation is not easy but via Zoom this is what Ma'am said, God willing, it will be inspiration for em what's the name of all that follow this socialization activity minimum Mother on screen 936 who follow this Zoom and added who follows on YouTube and hopefully Kempa Bintan will continue at least maintain or improve the later once again the IKK process with promote an evidence-based ee evident based is what it actually means become em what is it called ee eh best practice and later with a statement Mom, don't get ready later, Mom. Soon, many people will visit Mother guest asks how to produce good regulatory production The policy is good, how come the IKK can increase? like that. God willing, that is it more appreciation than us Lan only ee later will give a charter for Mom, but it would be better if Mom able to pass on the knowledge of Mother started from a Zoom meeting that God willing, more than 900 have been monitored and outside of YouTube and that's it Get ready, Mom, there will definitely be a lot of them later who will visit his mother's place because Bintang is also interesting to but I don't know if there is any efficiency there's no budget, friends other. I don't really know about this Our place will be considered later yeah. But I think for the local government can. Please ee if this one hear here. Then this is it our efforts to share and wrong the only one we hear directly from Bintan Regency and it turns out that if you want eh sharing session with the Regency Bintan please contact directly, mutually communicate, coordinate with each other to both show or improve the quality of our policies. Thank You. That's what you think, Mom. Please, Miss. This. Okay, thank you, Mrs. Evi. If in YouTube has around ee 600 to 700 additional participants, ma'am. So outside It's normal, yes, ma'am, for those who have appreciated it. ee efforts that we both make to improve policy quality. Oh well, Mrs. Evi, maybe for ee direct questions ee we close yes. Hopefully everyone ee what's it called? The previous question has been answered and I apologize. for those of you who don't have one yet opportunity to ask questions direct. Maybe this is the last one, Mrs. Evi. lastly ee there is a question that It is also important that the substance is also related with Mrs. Evi's policy. So in previous measurement of policy criteria That's ee is ee's policy not routine. It's back again, right, ma'am? the policy referred to by the questioner here it is possible ee in form ee legal products yes, one of them is in such a form of regulation. Well, if indeed, what is the name of that thing that you want? submitted ee how ee when the policy is routine for example, this is from the Ministry of Villages, yes, suppose they issue a policy priority use of village funds It's routine, ma'am, it's issued every day. year. Well, is that allowed? There are also several agencies that ee ask yes, how ee when ee the institution does not regulate much society, huh? Because it was related earlier with this Mrs. Evi may need reaffirming what is meant with strategic development policies That was it, ma'am. Because uh what his name? some ee agencies said that no ee the policy is not manage the ee community directly like that. Maybe that's the question last one that can be responded from ee some questions that appear in the column chat. Please, Mrs. Evi. Okay thanks. Oh The question is like this, if it's routine How? that's how it is. More there are some shortcomings like that, yes. My Policy without meaning to it's okay indeed must be repeated continuously against definition or understanding of policy and this is our duty as an agency that acts as a mentor policy analysis and coincidence in This directorate is the Directorate Policy Quality Improvement Strategy. So the strategy is one of them using this instrument and that routine will it be routine, can we do it all the time? we will not pay attention to whether it is routine or usually routine is the same as what? I forgot the priority or whatever the term I but into ee ke in yes what into ah it is ee what is his name ee notice that it is him have an impact on society the question is I the consumer eh what is the consumer the society is a society that not society but we serve. We provide examples in institutions state administration like ours if anyone asks then how we who can't go to society directly but of course each agency have functional duties that are already arranged according to its formation ee. So it doesn't have to be the definition of that society is communities at large. society as the public. But of course with its functional tasks like LAN the average public ee is state civil apparatus. Well, that's it it is determined that the functional tasks are appropriate with the formation of that agency Alone. That means it remains the same the definition of it has an impact towards its people. The community that it means ee he is up to the task its function. So apply and don't are you worried, sir or madam, we were inside earlier? the previous slides that em what the name is ee ee sector. Well, we have prepare the name later sector selection maybe for example we give an example state administrative institution or ee friends from our friends one association usually exists BKN friends and so on and so forth and so on. Later there will be a sector there state apparatus. So please fill in there. Even if there is nothing suitable, nothing, we still give other columns that you can adjust and it becomes part of our data. We also have to dig into the data as much as possible from you, ladies and gentlemen, for interest of analysis. So, back again that what if you don't have activities that are for the community. It doesn't seem possible because the existence of an institution must exist its purpose. Then it has been formulated duties and functions. And now it's time for us to measure whether policies that have been implemented once again which has been namely 2022, 23, 24 it has an impact that could be ee measurable and that can of course be very beneficial to the community in accordance with the duties and functions of the institution. So is there anything else? Good. Okay, thank you Mrs. Evi. Oh hopefully this answers many of your questions incoming questions, yes, questions similar ones that come in related to ee policy which is the object of measurement from the ee policy quality index. Maybe ee discussion, discussion session and We will stop our Q&A here here. Hey we say thank you Thank you very much for your enthusiasm, ladies and gentlemen in ee following the socialization and are you ready to do it? IKK measurement this year. Once again Ladies and Gentlemen, in 2025, IKK measurement experiencing innovation both from a technical perspective or the instrumentation that was previously We discussed that a lot, huh? Measurements will still be carried out later through the information system and will continue strive to make improvements ee and also improvements to the mechanism its implementation. After this was remembered Yes, sir/madam, sir/madam, you have homework, right? to follow up on this socialization so that later you will be better prepared to do it ee reduction. Hey, you need to form a team, then sir, madam need ee prepare what policies which will later be submitted as an object measurement. Once again we convey that ee the roles that exist in this IKK measurement is not ee what the roles of each of them That's the kind of employee, sir, ma'am. But this IKK measurement task ee is a collaboration of all ee elements which exist in each agency government. And its internal mechanisms what is it like please arrange it in each government agency. And Don't forget, ladies and gentlemen, after this you will there is a kickoff that marks the start IKK measurement 2025. ee there are so many ee What is the name? Conclusion yes, many once the updates, the depths that we have convey and we have shared the information is through this socialization. Once again we apologize for this limitations of space and time. For Ladies and gentlemen who have not received opportunity to ask questions we apologize immediately. But sir Mom can use direct contact ee to us via the Wise Friend earlier, OK? via number 08212553. Hey, the team will respond directly later. Comen Center IkKK. And don't forget, sir. Mom to follow Instagram @d1_LANRI to get updated information regarding the measurement of IKK. OK, before ending the session allow I am reciting rhymes. Please be pretty, okay? Father, Mother, yes. Oh the morning sun is shining bright, birds chirping on teak branches. IKK measurements are carried out in full mandate to realize governance high quality policies. That's all for this interactive discussion session. Sorry for any shortcomings. I end it wassalamualaikum warahmatullahi May Allah bless you. I'll return it to you, Miss. R yes. And peace be upon you and the mercy of Allah May Allah bless you. Thank you, Ms. Isni. Ladies and gentlemen, guests. With the end of the discussion session and also questions and answers answer that, then that's the end of it all series of measurement socialization events quality of policy 2025 today. We thank you resource persons and also moderators and of course, ladies and gentlemen who are present join and actively participate in this socialization both through Zoom channel and the Institution's YouTube channel State Administration. And before the event closed, we remind you again Sir, Madam, please fill in the attendance list via the link that has been shared by committee in the chat column and wait kick off IKK 2025 which is planned to be held on June 25 upcoming. Okay, ladies and gentlemen of the audience. happy. Thus the socialization forum this time. See you on another occasion other. Finally, may Allah grant us success and guidance. Greetings May Allah have mercy and blessings. [Music]