Interview with The Wizard Liz

hi guys today we&#39;re going to interview the wizard Liz she&#39;s a creator with over 10 million followers on all her platforms Tik Tok Instagram predominantly YouTube she gives advice on how to become your highest and best self and today I have the honor of interviewing her and thank you for being here thank you so much for having me to understand the person you are today we have to take a look at your childhood you have talked about about fleeing the war do you remember anything of that period so I was 1 years old uh when we immigrated to Europe coming from war your parents must have struggled a lot did you see the mental struggle they were going true when you were little um yes and how did that look like mentally um I think my parents did I mean especially my mom did a very good job of trying to hide the whole image of oh we don&#39;t have money oh we have to start from zero I I think she tried to hide it very well but obviously I think we all knew what was going on um but yeah it looked like a lot of I think depression whatever but when you&#39;re in that state of mind you have you have to survive so you&#39;ll do anything to survive and that&#39;s what were my parents were doing at that time especially my mom what did that do to you as a child to see your parents struggle financially and when did you realize like oh we don&#39;t have money um so what it did to me was I had always this drive to accomplish and become wealthy and like whatever I did I just needed to become wealthy because in my head I thought money was going to fix everything then when I had it I realized it doesn&#39;t you know there&#39;s so much more but it does take away a lot of problem and it just makes your life more comfortable um and I was just in my head even when I was like 12 years old I would go to like stores and I&#39;d be like can I work for you guys for $2 an hour you know they&#39;re like no you&#39;re a child you can&#39;t work but in anyway I just wanted to help and contribute and when I didn&#39;t I just felt useless mhm um and the way that like when I realized that we were poor was just always because so like food was a luxury going to McDonald&#39;s was a luxury and also I remember you know my mom by like selling all the gold she still had uh from that she took with her um she sold it so that like uh I could uh have like a carnival outfit for school and I could be a butterfly because she wanted me to like fit in with all the other children and stuff so yeah you wanted to contribute and help your parents when you were already TW 12 is such a young age to be thinking about oh I need to help my parents so you already felt that pressure when you were very young I I think I the only thing I&#39;ve ever felt was like I need to buy a house or make money that&#39;s the only thing I&#39;ve ever known to think about and even when I was young I remember we would go with school to like play and whatever and like in the middle of playing when everyone&#39;s playing I would take all these like like how you call it from a tree like I would take yeah no I would take all these sticks from trees and stuff and I was trying to build a house cuz I thought oh I can build a house for now mhm in 1 hour I&#39;m going to build a house with sticks that&#39;s so cute yeah but see that was always on my mind I have to provide I have to help I have to do that yeah a lot of children when they have no peace at home school is like peace for them MH uh did you feel like that was school like a safe place for you no because I was getting bullied at school but I didn&#39;t realize I was getting bullied but they were always making fun of me and um I was kind of like the class clown because I was doing like anything so that people in my class would like me mhm um but they were just taking advantage of me you know and for me I think for anyone that comes out of an abusive household they don&#39;t know when something happens to you and when that is too much MH so for me even if I had guys in my class that were physically hitting me I did not know is this bullying or is this normal I didn&#39;t understand cuz that was normal for you at home yeah did you have any friends at that point no they were just taking advantage in any way but like pretending to be my friends but no mhm and how was your relationship like with the teachers I mean I wasn&#39;t I was I was disturbing the class because I was I wanted to make everyone laugh and like have them enjoy whatever and they found it so funny but I was always in trouble did you have a hard time listening to them like with authority at school yeah because I wouldn&#39;t take anything serious I didn&#39;t know that anything was serious or real and I think when again someone comes out of an abusive household it&#39;s almost like reality doesn&#39;t match you kind of become very delusional because your reality you&#39;re living in is so traumatizing that you want to escape so in every day day-to-day life like school and all these normal real things you don&#39;t take them serious anymore there is a very big disconnect that starts to happen you were not having peace at home you not having peace in school so it was just a constant like chaos going on in your life how would you deal with that like when when was your uh moment of peace peace or would you have that at all at that time I don&#39;t know like I just think being by myself made me feel peaceful yes in my room and then that translates to me as an adult now that I constantly isolate myself because that&#39;s the only way I feel at peace I don&#39;t feel so you took that from your childhood with you to I don&#39;t feel at peace around people it can even be like people that I love and I will still feel Disturbed and I only at peace when I&#39;m alone with my cats yeah did you at that time when you were that young you know as children we all have like these big dreams and hopes for the future what were your dreams like I just wanted to what did you want to be I don&#39;t know like I remember I didn&#39;t have any goals for what I want to be I just wanted to make money and I wanted to buy my mom house I wanted to buy her anything she wanted that was like your purpose at that time like oh when I grew up I&#39;m just going to make sure my mom has it financially okay stable and like all my siblings and stuff obviously you have talked a lot about the abuse you have been through when I say that word abuse what is the first memory that comes to your mind um this was actually I was like around 3 years old and I remember like when we were in the Immigration Center I think when we first came to Europe um I had like I was still wearing like I don&#39;t know underwear or diapers I don&#39;t know what it was but I have a memory like this and I was walking around with like um okay so I I saw a cartoon on the TV and it was like a kangaroo carrying her baby and I thought oh let me do that let me get my teddy bear and put it like in front here and now I&#39;m a mom with a kangy baby that&#39;s so cute yeah I was a child you know yeah of course and then my father saw that and he decided to get an electrical cord and start beating me with it and yeah I remember like it hurts so much that I just peed the whole bed out of fear you would be constantly going through the beatings and everything you have talked about this mhm if something like that happened what would you do like what were the moments after I don&#39;t know I just go to sleep just crying yeah would the person that abused you would he apologize or come up to you no you guys would just like forget about it it just it was a normal like it was normal so you thought it was normal you thought everyone was going through it yes I remember like in school when I was when when I met all their kids and stuff I would ask them like oh yes so you also get beat up at home right and they were like No And I was like you&#39;re lying I really thought everyone was lying like this is normal when did you realize no this is actually not normal what&#39;s going on at home I actually only realized this three years ago when I yeah when I met my ex-boyfriend I told him about my upbringing and he he was the one that told me you know that that&#39;s not normal at all and then I was like huh and then he was like yeah like you getting changed by a knife he trying to kill you blah blah all these things he&#39;s like that&#39;s not normal he&#39;s like that&#39;s not how my household looked and that&#39;s all normal and then I remember calling my mom I&#39;m like Mom you know he said that it&#39;s not normal and even my mom was like yeah but he&#39;s not used to anything he&#39;s overreacting and then I was like whoa wait a minute like was I just all this time surrounded by people that were just constantly going through the same thing so you start to think this is how life is you know this is normal CU everyone the friends that I did make later down the line they were also getting abused by their parents all these things so one story was worse than the other so for us this was all normal only when I met him he gave me sanity and that&#39;s why I always tell people that do come out of an abusive household like you should look for people it doesn&#39;t have to be your partner it doesn&#39;t matter but someone in your life that didn&#39;t experience that because they can put some sanity into you and be like oh this is also how it could be it can be different it didn&#39;t have to be that way you know that was not normal because you just don&#39;t know and that&#39;s the same way when you grow up and you start to think like oh is this normal what he just did to me this guy or did he cross my boundaries here you never know cuz when you were young and your physically physical boundaries were crossed every single day and your emotional boundaries you just don&#39;t know anymore so it&#39;s almost like someone has to get up and just hit you in the face for you to be like hm was did he overreact or was that okay still all that happening apart from yourself going through the abuse you also had your siblings and your mom go through it um what did it do to you seeing them go through it cuz obviously it&#39;s one thing going like through it yourself but then seeing people you love going through through that is something totally different um I think again it made me feel so helpless cuz you hear your older brother who&#39;s like disabled scream from the pain and the only thing everyone is thinking at that moment is like why can&#39;t you be quiet why can&#39;t you take it like the rest of us just quiet and I know that&#39;s like so bad way of thinking but it&#39;s almost like this is so normal for you so anyone that does something to disrupt that normal way of doing things which is just you&#39;re getting beat up but just be quiet otherwise it will get worse that annoys you and not the person doing it you know and so almost trying to minimize the minimize so that don&#39;t scream because you make it worse you know when you should think he shouldn&#39;t be doing that so you&#39;re blaming like the oppressed yeah yeah you start doing that you start being like let&#39;s just all be quiet let&#39;s just do this um and you feel helpless you can&#39;t help any of them you just know oh my brother&#39;s getting beat up again oh yeah he&#39;s coming home with blood on his face okay another day you know and my mom yeah multiple times I saw the worst things and I couldn&#39;t do anything can you recall a moment where she was getting abused um I like one memory that I have is when she was pregnant with my little brother and uh yeah just my father uh kicking her like completely across the room on her stomach and stuff uh or asking my disabled brother to hit her in the face and he did because obviously he doesn&#39;t know any better MH and uh yeah so many times so so many like worse things but then I became so protective over my mom ever since I was a child so every time she would try to leave my dad and like leave the house I would go with her so she she couldn&#39;t leave because she had this thing in her head that her parents told her oh you can never leave you know you should stay for the children no matter what because that&#39;s what they have been taught and generations like this right so she always thought like I can&#39;t leave what will I do she also didn&#39;t have money so what what will she do you know so then she was stuck but every time she tried to leave she would just sit hours outside crying and I would just be sitting next to her could you tell the people how much you love like the love you have for your mom what she means to you cuz obviously you&#39;ve talked about ever since you were little oh all the all the focus you have is like paying off uh whatever mom needs uh financially being there for her so this thought of your mom you had it ever since you were young yeah what does your mom mean to you I think I could just never put that into words I think like you know when you have a love for a soul you can never a human body is compromised to how much they can express it because it&#39;s on it&#39;s love on a soul level MH uh but my mom just represents to me strength and even though like any that you can just come back from anything you know cuz in her position having like University degrees back home studying for so long you know and then have a war starting from zero again having to learn language now your University degrees don&#39;t mean anything anymore go clean toilets for a living everyone looks down on you you get completely discriminated constantly and on top of that your oldest son becomes disabled after the war you know he was born healthy becomes disabled and then you have an abusive husband abuses the children has no money and then still after that she got to work she got herself a job um and she just worked in between men she saved up money to put a down payment for a house and then she did that and then she eventually bought the house and I think that&#39;s strength and that is just you can always see how far a person can go when they have no other choice because everyone is saying that oh I I can never do that I can never do this you can but you just have not been put into a position where you have to perform like that when someone reaches rock bottom and when they get tired of themselves and their own situation that&#39;s when they change so and that&#39;s also when I changed when I hit rock bottom and I was just tired of myself is when I started completely changing my life around obviously your mom going through that abuse you see a man you know who is supposed to be a provider and a protector you see him abusing this woman that you love so much did that make you hate men did your upbringing hate make you hate men um no it didn&#39;t because I feel like ever since I was young I just had a really good understanding of everything that was going on I always knew you can&#39;t blame one person for uh you can&#39;t blame his actions for everyone else you know that would be foolish for me to do and in my life uh men have treated me very well the the men that I attracted for myself they have helped me a lot so I was very grateful for men in a lot of ways yeah I I I don&#39;t like toxic men and I will not like men that want to live off of women that abuse women that cheat on women I don&#39;t like that and if that makes me a manher then so be it because you&#39;re just revealing who you are if you&#39;re offended when I say I don&#39;t like toxic men why are you offended if you&#39;re a good man MH shouldn&#39;t be offended and in the same way everyone always thinks oh she speaks up for women now she&#39;s a feminist she hates men no me speaking up for women doesn&#39;t mean that I hate men why does it have to be the both side like like that you know it makes no sense there&#39;s also a lot of men that watch my videos so I I think it&#39;s completely like General they take my videos out of context and then they create something of it because yeah it&#39;s cool to hate on me you know oh amazing people love to bring people up and then bring them back down mhm and that&#39;s what they love to do you know it&#39;s like oh yeah we we&#39;re rooting for you when you&#39;re still at our level but once you&#39;re there come back down to our level cuz we don&#39;t like that anymore now you&#39;re triggering us yeah when did the abuse stop at what point I think 18 when my father finally decided to leave mhm was when it stopped mhm um obviously after a lot of people who experience abuse a consequence of that is depression when did you realize I&#39;m depressed I just think you know when people say like oh I live to be happy I just live to not be sad it&#39;s like complete like my normal is sad it&#39;s not happy or anything and I just live to just to not feel that you know um um yeah so my whole childhood I was like this I was never I I cannot even imagine that I enjoyed anything or so you never enjoy anything these days I&#39;m trying to have a life again but I&#39;ve been again isolating myself and would you say you&#39;re depressed now no I wouldn&#39;t but how do I know would my would the way I behave say otherwise isolated yourself not having motivation not wanting to do anything is that depression what is depression I think it&#39;s it&#39;s become so normal for me to feel like that so I don&#39;t think it&#39;s even a depression it&#39;s just a part of me I truly feel like sadness is just a part of me but I don&#39;t I I think I came to a point where I just don&#39;t demonize it anymore you just embrace it I embraced it yeah it&#39;s a part of me cuz no matter what I did okay I accomplished all my material goals I I did this I I I did this for my mom I got everyone safe whatever and that&#39;s all what I wanted to do right okay and I still feel the same I just think that people glamorize this whole idea of happiness and contentment and they think once I have money I&#39;ll be happy once I have this I&#39;ll be happy when to and don&#39;t I think sometimes you know maybe when your soul just knows you don&#39;t belong on Earth you can just not feel that extreme happiness or contentment that everyone is talking about cuz I don&#39;t feel at home here so like how do you deal with it then like if you&#39;re feeling depressed and everything I just live I just continue living what can I do do you feel motivated at all I motivate myself but other than that no do you feel like your childhood really impacted just your whole life and you can never get out of that no I just think that I&#39;ve come to a point where I accepted that sadness is okay that I have to stop trying to be happy be happy I I&#39;ve stopped because it&#39;s not that I&#39;m uh like let&#39;s say oh sad this and that and I I&#39;m crying every day no and I just don&#39;t feel extreme happiness or I just don&#39;t feel like oh but sometimes you know some days they&#39;re so much fun and I can be like that but other days I&#39;m just what methods would you use to come out of that state sometimes like therapy I mean the only time it ever got bad that I could say this is bad was when when I was uh obviously for two years like stuck in my room I had an eating desser on top of that and um when when it was like that the only thing I did was look at myself in the mirror and be like get up like this is your fault and I think cuz people always are like oh victim blaming how can you do that but I&#39;ve tried to not blame myself and I&#39;ve try to just be like oh it&#39;s not your fault Liz oh it&#39;s okay it&#39;s okay that didn&#39;t get me anywhere I was for two years just stuck in my room eating zorder trying to off myself you know didn&#39;t get me anywhere sometimes you have to look at yourself and be like you&#39;re just not good enough right now and you need to do better even though it&#39;s hard and when I did that yeah then I actually did something and I think I&#39;m in the same situation now actually you&#39;re back in that depression no I&#39;m not in a depression but it&#39;s almost like I came to a point where my life is again comfortable for me because I was also comfortable in my mom&#39;s room doing nothing and again it&#39;s comfortable for me now I have everything I want and w blah blah but it doesn&#39;t it doesn&#39;t fulfill me anymore there&#39;s no drive to do anything now I&#39;m just like okay what&#39;s next you know all I do is like oh let me get knowledge for another YouTube video let me read a book for another YouTube video that&#39;s not good enough and I know I can do more I know I should do bigger things but I&#39;m sitting there just comfortable because I don&#39;t have to you know and that&#39;s that&#39;s the thing that makes me sad because I&#39;m seeing myself just lose my potential over time mhm and it&#39;s almost like I have to motivate myself to get out of it and it&#39;s almost like I&#39;m almost stuck and I can&#39;t it&#39;s almost like I&#39;m stuck again in the same cycle of comfort and I need to get out like for example oh but maybe sometimes Comfort is a good thing you know you don&#39;t always have to be sa when you know that you can do better better you want to be better I want to be better and I want to do more much much more this is nothing and I&#39;ve been blessed with so many things and I don&#39;t take the full opportunity of that you want to do more but you feel like you lack the motivation yeah and and I&#39;m just comfortable too comfortable too comfortable which is also like a big blessing would you say it is a blessing but it can also be a curse cuz you never see a reason to improve your life when you&#39;re comfortable you know when you see the same people every day yeah they&#39;re toxic but you know them you know what they&#39;re going to do why would I change I know them Comfort mhm you know I know what my day looks like doesn&#39;t excite me but I know the day Comfort I know what an exciting day for myself would look like don&#39;t want to do it CU again I have to change something about myself [Music] mhm if people who are struggling with depression and or struggling with other things are watching this right now and they feel like you like I don&#39;t know they&#39;ve almost embraced it what would you tell them to do I think they honestly in the they should do what I also should do and that just really take a good look at yourself and ask yourself what do I want my life to be is this what I want my life to look like all day just being depressed don&#39;t feeling good about myself and then also ask yourself where is this coming from cuz sometimes you know people say oh I&#39;m depressed but actually you&#39;re just stuck to your phone glue to your phone that&#39;s the only thing you do you watch stuff on social media you watch other people live and you&#39;re letting your life go by when you have no purpose when you have nothing to give you will become depressed when you&#39;re too much in your head you will become depressed cuz you have nothing to do other than other than to think all day mhm and that&#39;s also I think my biggest issue that&#39;s why I want to work because I feel like um with social media the blessing is money but the money gave me Comfort I don&#39;t need to like work let&#39;s say I upload let&#39;s say once a month I don&#39;t I don&#39;t need to work for all the other days okay reading all these things but I like those things so what am I doing with my time I&#39;m overthinking constantly I&#39;m thinking I&#39;m thinking I&#39;m do thinking when I&#39;m too much in my head I get sad MH because I create scenarios that are not there mhm same with those people are you busy enough also ask yourself that what what does your daytoday look like that&#39;s where I would start like what does my day look like and what do I want my day to look like what do I want to happen in a year from now is that what you&#39;re working on right now on yes yes cuz look at me like okay I have all these things do it&#39;s almost like there guys there will never be an end goal never I know billionaires that are depressed MH so money is not the answer I think purpose is what are you doing with your time how are you spending your energy that&#39;s the most important thing mhm would you say now at this age with all the knowledge you have all the healings you have done um trying to like heal yourself would you say you have healed from the abuse um I would say it doesn&#39;t bother me or it it doesn&#39;t distrupt my sleep or anything you know sometimes some triggers come up and I see some memories but I just let them happen um healed I don&#39;t know what that looks like I don&#39;t know what healed would be I think accepting that it&#39;s a part of you yes MH and you move on yeah so you&#39;ve just moved on from it I moved on I worked on it I I I addressed everything and then I move on because I also don&#39;t want to keep living in the past I don&#39;t want to keep bringing up those memories and giving them significance by thinking about them and making them bigger in my brain yeah I want my brain to understand that it&#39;s the past now and now Liz needs to move on yeah did you always know you wanted to share your message on YouTube make the videos um not necessarily on YouTube I just knew that I wanted to help people I remember always saying that to my mom I want to help people and I never knew why mhm but I think somehow my soul already knew what was about to happen what was the intention when you started what you I just wanted to help people I just wanted to feel better about themselves or to change something that they needed change and that&#39;s it so ever since you were young you already knew like this is what I want to yeah and it&#39;s actually crazy because even in my school projects I would make like uh when we had to make a company I would make a company that&#39;s about health helping people and they can get a therapist and all these things it was always like this it&#39;s crazy being there for others yeah and that&#39;s crazy cuz like I&#39;m telling you it&#39;s almost like my soul always knew so I was just acting out what was going to happen eventually did you expect um the millions of followers no no not at all what did you expect nothing really I thought I&#39;m going to put up that first video no one&#39;s going to watch it and I&#39;ll delete it after after two weeks mhm that&#39;s what I thought cuz I thought my lips looked ugly like too big oh really yeah and I refilmed it and then they were still too big so I was like oh no so then I was like let me turn off the comments so you turned off the comments on the first video yes there still turn off or I think so yeah really you know a lot of people have told you that that you have changed their lives how does that make you feel when someone comes up to you and like you know you&#39;ve changed changed my life I&#39;ve bettered my life because of you I mean that&#39;s the that&#39;s the only reason I keep going to be honest there the only reason that I keep going that that just there&#39;s feeling I cannot describe mhm I can&#39;t I cannot describe yeah you have like any memory of like something you remember a fan telling you you were like whoa yeah I I actually had this one girl that came up to me when I was sitting at a restaurant with my ex and uh we were eating and she was working in the hotel lobby and she came up to me and she was like hey are you the wizard L and I was like yeah I am she&#39;s like um you saved my life and I like oh thank you so much I appreciate that and as she looked at me she&#39;s like no but you don&#39;t understand she&#39;s like I turned 18 today and I would not have turned 18 if it wasn&#39;t for you m and then uh yeah of course I started crying yeah that motivates you I think about her every day that&#39;s like motivation to keep going it&#39;s it&#39;s not motivation and just feeling I cannot describe do you then realize like oh I actually sto people from yeah yeah she made me realize that did you need that to hear that yeah because I have this issue that I don&#39;t take anything seriously mhm so I don&#39;t understand I&#39;m like a butterfly I&#39;ll go through life not understanding anything for the most part I didn&#39;t even understand why people were coming up to me wanting to take pictures I just see myself as whatever normal Liv you know and I never understood like the impact that I had until she came up to meh why do you think all these millions of people gravitate towards you especially I think because they see themselves in me and I just attracted like-minded people people that need to hear things the way that I speak them mhm you know obviously there&#39;s a lot of people who really love your videos love your message you&#39;ve changed a lot of people&#39;s lives also there&#39;s a tiny bit of negativity um tiny super tiny bit people have called you toxic self-centered uh even they went as far as diagnosed you with narcissism do you understand why people call you that yeah because I don&#39;t think anyone is used to any self-love I think we have never been taught that we&#39;ve ever since we were young been taught to care for others be nice to others do this for others but don&#39;t say anything about yourself don&#39;t do anything for yourself CU you&#39;re vain you&#39;re selfish all these things you know so then when I come onto YouTube and I talk into a mirror and call myself o I am mesmerizing everyone says oh she&#39;s a narcissist she&#39;s obsessed with herself no no there&#39;s something wrong with you that you cannot look yourself into the mirror and say that you love yourself or that you&#39;re beautiful but when you go onto someone else&#39;s picture that&#39;s the first thing you write oh you&#39;re so beautiful oh my God I wish I looked like you how do you talk to yourself start with yourself first because everyone wants to say oh Liz is preaching this selfish lifestyle blah blah no I&#39;m preaching that people shouldn&#39;t get abused by people that take advantage of people Pleasers because that&#39;s what I went through I&#39;m not talking about being selfish because that&#39;s the last thing I am I care for others but I have my boundaries certain things I do not accept if you have an issue with that then look into the mirror why do you have an issue with people having boundaries MH and same thing like oh yes she&#39;s selfish all these things like you just get don&#39;t get the mess message you get my message wrong do you think some people intentionally want to only see the wrong side and yeah I mean that&#39;s what I said they love to build people up and tear them back down MH and that will happen in everyone&#39;s life by the way when you start changing and when you start going to a Next Level and becoming better everyone around you will start telling you oh no that&#39;s not good oh you Chang oh come back to down to our level to our level humble yourself who do you think you are you know that&#39;s always happens when you start changing because now you&#39;re being uncomfortable to them and you&#39;re triggering them because you changing is showing them that they can do it too MH so now who do they have to blame themselves MH now you are making them look at themselves and that&#39;s what people don&#39;t want to do MH does that negativity get to you no because I don&#39;t look at it and I honestly don&#39;t think that I have that much negativity to be honest have mostly positive comments yeah so I don&#39;t really and if it&#39;s negative it&#39;s good I don&#39;t see these negative emotions or negative comments as something bad because that&#39;s what needed to keep me going the good and the bad that&#39;s how the world works that&#39;s how everything works balance yeah the law of polarity you need the good and the bad in order to keep the world moving MH so I need bad comments and I need good comments because good comments mean that they realize something about themselves but bad comments mean I triggered them and when a trigger comes up that&#39;s where you need to heal that cuz why are you triggered you know why are you triggered ask yourself why did this trigger me yeah are you comfortable being in the public eye in the spotlight I mean I&#39;m just used to it now mhm um I would say my anxiety has gone up a little bit especially because I&#39;m out and people ask for pictures and stuff I just avoid human interaction as much as possible which is really not good I need to change this but yeah so you would say you&#39;re not comfortable oh if that that means then yes yeah well I&#39;m comfortable when I&#39;m speaking to my camera in my kitchen maybe it&#39;s because I constantly have this you know they say when you had an abuse shelter that your amydala is really big and that&#39;s your fight or flight mode so you constantly have this paranoia in your head so you&#39;re scared constantly not scared but I I think it&#39;s weird I think it&#39;s weird oh okay so you&#39;re not at a point where you just like accepted oh I&#39;m this famous person no I have accepted that but for example if I go to the mall I still disguise myself so people don&#39;t come up to me mhm would you say you&#39;ve changed at all like from before the fame now after the fame are you still the same person um I mean I did change obviously I mean would be terrible if I didn&#39;t change in 3 years I was just same person was three years ago like some people get famous they get money they become like you know no I don&#39;t have my change on yet guys this is uh soon to come when you are in the public eye and people know you uh it&#39;s hard you know to trust people I can imagine do you trust people I trust everyone at first oh well that&#39;s dangerous yeah I&#39;ve I&#39;ve been in a lot of situations where I&#39;m like wow no how do you how do you you make friends and uh of or even have a relationship without thinking oh are they in it for the wrong reasons I mean I have a very good intuition oh okay but I always almost always ignore it and but I was wow that&#39;s so good of you because I always want to see the good in people yeah that&#39;s an issue and I also need to work on that but my intuition always acts up and I I know then I&#39;m like oh I knew this I knew this I felt this but I didn&#39;t put in into action but the way I just say now I&#39;m making friends for me I have people that I&#39;m compatible with and I know what I look for in a friendship and that&#39;s also the friendship that I want to cultivate and in a relationship I just um I never think about someone using me there&#39;s nothing to use they&#39;re not going to get anything from me cuz you don&#39;t come out of your house yeah I just it&#39;s so you don&#39;t have a hard time trusting people I think I have a hard time not trusting people damn yeah the opposite I think I&#39;m a little bit naive still like a child that&#39;s dangerous in your position I know but that&#39;s why I have people around me that don&#39;t trust anyone yeah that&#39;s good you should always someone like you who is like trusting everyone you should have someone who doesn&#39;t trust anyone next to you do you think that people online see the real Liz the real you I think they see a part of me but they don&#39;t see how funny I amh I think I think they do in some videos it&#39;s but not really I mean and they don&#39;t see like that I also have like a childlike character and not like I&#39;m just sometimes I&#39;m just different but most of the time I&#39;m actually a very serious person to be honest yeah you are what would you say differences between the wizard Liz and Liz I think Liz just comfortable doing whatever she wants to do and I have a lot of am I bipolar well that&#39;s for another interview with your therapist um what would you say your purposes in this life in this life I think my purpose is just to live my best life wow yeah really really to live my best life and show people that they can Doo M so always that help like always showing other people yeah and any anything I do I&#39;m trying to help people yeah so do you feel like you&#39;re fulfilling that purpose very living your best life think God is very pleased to me I think you&#39;re you also should be very pleased with God I am good that&#39;s good we&#39;re grateful this turned into a Christian podcast yeah guys uh okay well I want to thank you so much for doing this interview thank you for having me I think we&#39;re all curious to see the future for you I think you&#39;re going to do very very big things like through the roof I&#39;m going to go through the roof I&#39;m going to go through the roof

hi guys today we&amp;#39;re going to interview the wizard Liz she&amp;#39;s a creator with over 10 million followers on all her platforms Tik Tok Instagram predominantly YouTube she gives advice on how to become your highest and best self and today I have the honor of interviewing her and thank you for being here thank you so much for having me to understand the person you are today we have to take a look at your childhood you have talked about about fleeing the war do you remember anything of that period so I was 1 years old uh when we immigrated to Europe coming from war your parents must have struggled a lot did you see the mental struggle they were going true when you were little um yes and how did that look like mentally um I think my parents did I mean especially my mom did a very good job of trying to hide the whole image of oh we don&amp;#39;t have money oh we have to start from zero I I think she tried to hide it very well but obviously I think we all knew what was going on um but yeah it looked like a lot of I think depression whatever but when you&amp;#39;re in that state of mind you have you have to survive so you&amp;#39;ll do anything to survive and that&amp;#39;s what were my parents were doing at that time especially my mom what did that do to you as a child to see your parents struggle financially and when did you realize like oh we don&amp;#39;t have money um so what it did to me was I had always this drive to accomplish and become wealthy and like whatever I did I just needed to become wealthy because in my head I thought money was going to fix everything then when I had it I realized it doesn&amp;#39;t you know there&amp;#39;s so much more but it does take away a lot of problem and it just makes your life more comfortable um and I was just in my head even when I was like 12 years old I would go to like stores and I&amp;#39;d be like can I work for you guys for $2 an hour you know they&amp;#39;re like no you&amp;#39;re a child you can&amp;#39;t work but in anyway I just wanted to help and contribute and when I didn&amp;#39;t I just felt useless mhm um and the way that like when I realized that we were poor was just always because so like food was a luxury going to McDonald&amp;#39;s was a luxury and also I remember you know my mom by like selling all the gold she still had uh from that she took with her um she sold it so that like uh I could uh have like a carnival outfit for school and I could be a butterfly because she wanted me to like fit in with all the other children and stuff so yeah you wanted to contribute and help your parents when you were already TW 12 is such a young age to be thinking about oh I need to help my parents so you already felt that pressure when you were very young I I think I the only thing I&amp;#39;ve ever felt was like I need to buy a house or make money that&amp;#39;s the only thing I&amp;#39;ve ever known to think about and even when I was young I remember we would go with school to like play and whatever and like in the middle of playing when everyone&amp;#39;s playing I would take all these like like how you call it from a tree like I would take yeah no I would take all these sticks from trees and stuff and I was trying to build a house cuz I thought oh I can build a house for now mhm in 1 hour I&amp;#39;m going to build a house with sticks that&amp;#39;s so cute yeah but see that was always on my mind I have to provide I have to help I have to do that yeah a lot of children when they have no peace at home school is like peace for them MH uh did you feel like that was school like a safe place for you no because I was getting bullied at school but I didn&amp;#39;t realize I was getting bullied but they were always making fun of me and um I was kind of like the class clown because I was doing like anything so that people in my class would like me mhm um but they were just taking advantage of me you know and for me I think for anyone that comes out of an abusive household they don&amp;#39;t know when something happens to you and when that is too much MH so for me even if I had guys in my class that were physically hitting me I did not know is this bullying or is this normal I didn&amp;#39;t understand cuz that was normal for you at home yeah did you have any friends at that point no they were just taking advantage in any way but like pretending to be my friends but no mhm and how was your relationship like with the teachers I mean I wasn&amp;#39;t I was I was disturbing the class because I was I wanted to make everyone laugh and like have them enjoy whatever and they found it so funny but I was always in trouble did you have a hard time listening to them like with authority at school yeah because I wouldn&amp;#39;t take anything serious I didn&amp;#39;t know that anything was serious or real and I think when again someone comes out of an abusive household it&amp;#39;s almost like reality doesn&amp;#39;t match you kind of become very delusional because your reality you&amp;#39;re living in is so traumatizing that you want to escape so in every day day-to-day life like school and all these normal real things you don&amp;#39;t take them serious anymore there is a very big disconnect that starts to happen you were not having peace at home you not having peace in school so it was just a constant like chaos going on in your life how would you deal with that like when when was your uh moment of peace peace or would you have that at all at that time I don&amp;#39;t know like I just think being by myself made me feel peaceful yes in my room and then that translates to me as an adult now that I constantly isolate myself because that&amp;#39;s the only way I feel at peace I don&amp;#39;t feel so you took that from your childhood with you to I don&amp;#39;t feel at peace around people it can even be like people that I love and I will still feel Disturbed and I only at peace when I&amp;#39;m alone with my cats yeah did you at that time when you were that young you know as children we all have like these big dreams and hopes for the future what were your dreams like I just wanted to what did you want to be I don&amp;#39;t know like I remember I didn&amp;#39;t have any goals for what I want to be I just wanted to make money and I wanted to buy my mom house I wanted to buy her anything she wanted that was like your purpose at that time like oh when I grew up I&amp;#39;m just going to make sure my mom has it financially okay stable and like all my siblings and stuff obviously you have talked a lot about the abuse you have been through when I say that word abuse what is the first memory that comes to your mind um this was actually I was like around 3 years old and I remember like when we were in the Immigration Center I think when we first came to Europe um I had like I was still wearing like I don&amp;#39;t know underwear or diapers I don&amp;#39;t know what it was but I have a memory like this and I was walking around with like um okay so I I saw a cartoon on the TV and it was like a kangaroo carrying her baby and I thought oh let me do that let me get my teddy bear and put it like in front here and now I&amp;#39;m a mom with a kangy baby that&amp;#39;s so cute yeah I was a child you know yeah of course and then my father saw that and he decided to get an electrical cord and start beating me with it and yeah I remember like it hurts so much that I just peed the whole bed out of fear you would be constantly going through the beatings and everything you have talked about this mhm if something like that happened what would you do like what were the moments after I don&amp;#39;t know I just go to sleep just crying yeah would the person that abused you would he apologize or come up to you no you guys would just like forget about it it just it was a normal like it was normal so you thought it was normal you thought everyone was going through it yes I remember like in school when I was when when I met all their kids and stuff I would ask them like oh yes so you also get beat up at home right and they were like No And I was like you&amp;#39;re lying I really thought everyone was lying like this is normal when did you realize no this is actually not normal what&amp;#39;s going on at home I actually only realized this three years ago when I yeah when I met my ex-boyfriend I told him about my upbringing and he he was the one that told me you know that that&amp;#39;s not normal at all and then I was like huh and then he was like yeah like you getting changed by a knife he trying to kill you blah blah all these things he&amp;#39;s like that&amp;#39;s not normal he&amp;#39;s like that&amp;#39;s not how my household looked and that&amp;#39;s all normal and then I remember calling my mom I&amp;#39;m like Mom you know he said that it&amp;#39;s not normal and even my mom was like yeah but he&amp;#39;s not used to anything he&amp;#39;s overreacting and then I was like whoa wait a minute like was I just all this time surrounded by people that were just constantly going through the same thing so you start to think this is how life is you know this is normal CU everyone the friends that I did make later down the line they were also getting abused by their parents all these things so one story was worse than the other so for us this was all normal only when I met him he gave me sanity and that&amp;#39;s why I always tell people that do come out of an abusive household like you should look for people it doesn&amp;#39;t have to be your partner it doesn&amp;#39;t matter but someone in your life that didn&amp;#39;t experience that because they can put some sanity into you and be like oh this is also how it could be it can be different it didn&amp;#39;t have to be that way you know that was not normal because you just don&amp;#39;t know and that&amp;#39;s the same way when you grow up and you start to think like oh is this normal what he just did to me this guy or did he cross my boundaries here you never know cuz when you were young and your physically physical boundaries were crossed every single day and your emotional boundaries you just don&amp;#39;t know anymore so it&amp;#39;s almost like someone has to get up and just hit you in the face for you to be like hm was did he overreact or was that okay still all that happening apart from yourself going through the abuse you also had your siblings and your mom go through it um what did it do to you seeing them go through it cuz obviously it&amp;#39;s one thing going like through it yourself but then seeing people you love going through through that is something totally different um I think again it made me feel so helpless cuz you hear your older brother who&amp;#39;s like disabled scream from the pain and the only thing everyone is thinking at that moment is like why can&amp;#39;t you be quiet why can&amp;#39;t you take it like the rest of us just quiet and I know that&amp;#39;s like so bad way of thinking but it&amp;#39;s almost like this is so normal for you so anyone that does something to disrupt that normal way of doing things which is just you&amp;#39;re getting beat up but just be quiet otherwise it will get worse that annoys you and not the person doing it you know and so almost trying to minimize the minimize so that don&amp;#39;t scream because you make it worse you know when you should think he shouldn&amp;#39;t be doing that so you&amp;#39;re blaming like the oppressed yeah yeah you start doing that you start being like let&amp;#39;s just all be quiet let&amp;#39;s just do this um and you feel helpless you can&amp;#39;t help any of them you just know oh my brother&amp;#39;s getting beat up again oh yeah he&amp;#39;s coming home with blood on his face okay another day you know and my mom yeah multiple times I saw the worst things and I couldn&amp;#39;t do anything can you recall a moment where she was getting abused um I like one memory that I have is when she was pregnant with my little brother and uh yeah just my father uh kicking her like completely across the room on her stomach and stuff uh or asking my disabled brother to hit her in the face and he did because obviously he doesn&amp;#39;t know any better MH and uh yeah so many times so so many like worse things but then I became so protective over my mom ever since I was a child so every time she would try to leave my dad and like leave the house I would go with her so she she couldn&amp;#39;t leave because she had this thing in her head that her parents told her oh you can never leave you know you should stay for the children no matter what because that&amp;#39;s what they have been taught and generations like this right so she always thought like I can&amp;#39;t leave what will I do she also didn&amp;#39;t have money so what what will she do you know so then she was stuck but every time she tried to leave she would just sit hours outside crying and I would just be sitting next to her could you tell the people how much you love like the love you have for your mom what she means to you cuz obviously you&amp;#39;ve talked about ever since you were little oh all the all the focus you have is like paying off uh whatever mom needs uh financially being there for her so this thought of your mom you had it ever since you were young yeah what does your mom mean to you I think I could just never put that into words I think like you know when you have a love for a soul you can never a human body is compromised to how much they can express it because it&amp;#39;s on it&amp;#39;s love on a soul level MH uh but my mom just represents to me strength and even though like any that you can just come back from anything you know cuz in her position having like University degrees back home studying for so long you know and then have a war starting from zero again having to learn language now your University degrees don&amp;#39;t mean anything anymore go clean toilets for a living everyone looks down on you you get completely discriminated constantly and on top of that your oldest son becomes disabled after the war you know he was born healthy becomes disabled and then you have an abusive husband abuses the children has no money and then still after that she got to work she got herself a job um and she just worked in between men she saved up money to put a down payment for a house and then she did that and then she eventually bought the house and I think that&amp;#39;s strength and that is just you can always see how far a person can go when they have no other choice because everyone is saying that oh I I can never do that I can never do this you can but you just have not been put into a position where you have to perform like that when someone reaches rock bottom and when they get tired of themselves and their own situation that&amp;#39;s when they change so and that&amp;#39;s also when I changed when I hit rock bottom and I was just tired of myself is when I started completely changing my life around obviously your mom going through that abuse you see a man you know who is supposed to be a provider and a protector you see him abusing this woman that you love so much did that make you hate men did your upbringing hate make you hate men um no it didn&amp;#39;t because I feel like ever since I was young I just had a really good understanding of everything that was going on I always knew you can&amp;#39;t blame one person for uh you can&amp;#39;t blame his actions for everyone else you know that would be foolish for me to do and in my life uh men have treated me very well the the men that I attracted for myself they have helped me a lot so I was very grateful for men in a lot of ways yeah I I I don&amp;#39;t like toxic men and I will not like men that want to live off of women that abuse women that cheat on women I don&amp;#39;t like that and if that makes me a manher then so be it because you&amp;#39;re just revealing who you are if you&amp;#39;re offended when I say I don&amp;#39;t like toxic men why are you offended if you&amp;#39;re a good man MH shouldn&amp;#39;t be offended and in the same way everyone always thinks oh she speaks up for women now she&amp;#39;s a feminist she hates men no me speaking up for women doesn&amp;#39;t mean that I hate men why does it have to be the both side like like that you know it makes no sense there&amp;#39;s also a lot of men that watch my videos so I I think it&amp;#39;s completely like General they take my videos out of context and then they create something of it because yeah it&amp;#39;s cool to hate on me you know oh amazing people love to bring people up and then bring them back down mhm and that&amp;#39;s what they love to do you know it&amp;#39;s like oh yeah we we&amp;#39;re rooting for you when you&amp;#39;re still at our level but once you&amp;#39;re there come back down to our level cuz we don&amp;#39;t like that anymore now you&amp;#39;re triggering us yeah when did the abuse stop at what point I think 18 when my father finally decided to leave mhm was when it stopped mhm um obviously after a lot of people who experience abuse a consequence of that is depression when did you realize I&amp;#39;m depressed I just think you know when people say like oh I live to be happy I just live to not be sad it&amp;#39;s like complete like my normal is sad it&amp;#39;s not happy or anything and I just live to just to not feel that you know um um yeah so my whole childhood I was like this I was never I I cannot even imagine that I enjoyed anything or so you never enjoy anything these days I&amp;#39;m trying to have a life again but I&amp;#39;ve been again isolating myself and would you say you&amp;#39;re depressed now no I wouldn&amp;#39;t but how do I know would my would the way I behave say otherwise isolated yourself not having motivation not wanting to do anything is that depression what is depression I think it&amp;#39;s it&amp;#39;s become so normal for me to feel like that so I don&amp;#39;t think it&amp;#39;s even a depression it&amp;#39;s just a part of me I truly feel like sadness is just a part of me but I don&amp;#39;t I I think I came to a point where I just don&amp;#39;t demonize it anymore you just embrace it I embraced it yeah it&amp;#39;s a part of me cuz no matter what I did okay I accomplished all my material goals I I did this I I I did this for my mom I got everyone safe whatever and that&amp;#39;s all what I wanted to do right okay and I still feel the same I just think that people glamorize this whole idea of happiness and contentment and they think once I have money I&amp;#39;ll be happy once I have this I&amp;#39;ll be happy when to and don&amp;#39;t I think sometimes you know maybe when your soul just knows you don&amp;#39;t belong on Earth you can just not feel that extreme happiness or contentment that everyone is talking about cuz I don&amp;#39;t feel at home here so like how do you deal with it then like if you&amp;#39;re feeling depressed and everything I just live I just continue living what can I do do you feel motivated at all I motivate myself but other than that no do you feel like your childhood really impacted just your whole life and you can never get out of that no I just think that I&amp;#39;ve come to a point where I accepted that sadness is okay that I have to stop trying to be happy be happy I I&amp;#39;ve stopped because it&amp;#39;s not that I&amp;#39;m uh like let&amp;#39;s say oh sad this and that and I I&amp;#39;m crying every day no and I just don&amp;#39;t feel extreme happiness or I just don&amp;#39;t feel like oh but sometimes you know some days they&amp;#39;re so much fun and I can be like that but other days I&amp;#39;m just what methods would you use to come out of that state sometimes like therapy I mean the only time it ever got bad that I could say this is bad was when when I was uh obviously for two years like stuck in my room I had an eating desser on top of that and um when when it was like that the only thing I did was look at myself in the mirror and be like get up like this is your fault and I think cuz people always are like oh victim blaming how can you do that but I&amp;#39;ve tried to not blame myself and I&amp;#39;ve try to just be like oh it&amp;#39;s not your fault Liz oh it&amp;#39;s okay it&amp;#39;s okay that didn&amp;#39;t get me anywhere I was for two years just stuck in my room eating zorder trying to off myself you know didn&amp;#39;t get me anywhere sometimes you have to look at yourself and be like you&amp;#39;re just not good enough right now and you need to do better even though it&amp;#39;s hard and when I did that yeah then I actually did something and I think I&amp;#39;m in the same situation now actually you&amp;#39;re back in that depression no I&amp;#39;m not in a depression but it&amp;#39;s almost like I came to a point where my life is again comfortable for me because I was also comfortable in my mom&amp;#39;s room doing nothing and again it&amp;#39;s comfortable for me now I have everything I want and w blah blah but it doesn&amp;#39;t it doesn&amp;#39;t fulfill me anymore there&amp;#39;s no drive to do anything now I&amp;#39;m just like okay what&amp;#39;s next you know all I do is like oh let me get knowledge for another YouTube video let me read a book for another YouTube video that&amp;#39;s not good enough and I know I can do more I know I should do bigger things but I&amp;#39;m sitting there just comfortable because I don&amp;#39;t have to you know and that&amp;#39;s that&amp;#39;s the thing that makes me sad because I&amp;#39;m seeing myself just lose my potential over time mhm and it&amp;#39;s almost like I have to motivate myself to get out of it and it&amp;#39;s almost like I&amp;#39;m almost stuck and I can&amp;#39;t it&amp;#39;s almost like I&amp;#39;m stuck again in the same cycle of comfort and I need to get out like for example oh but maybe sometimes Comfort is a good thing you know you don&amp;#39;t always have to be sa when you know that you can do better better you want to be better I want to be better and I want to do more much much more this is nothing and I&amp;#39;ve been blessed with so many things and I don&amp;#39;t take the full opportunity of that you want to do more but you feel like you lack the motivation yeah and and I&amp;#39;m just comfortable too comfortable too comfortable which is also like a big blessing would you say it is a blessing but it can also be a curse cuz you never see a reason to improve your life when you&amp;#39;re comfortable you know when you see the same people every day yeah they&amp;#39;re toxic but you know them you know what they&amp;#39;re going to do why would I change I know them Comfort mhm you know I know what my day looks like doesn&amp;#39;t excite me but I know the day Comfort I know what an exciting day for myself would look like don&amp;#39;t want to do it CU again I have to change something about myself [Music] mhm if people who are struggling with depression and or struggling with other things are watching this right now and they feel like you like I don&amp;#39;t know they&amp;#39;ve almost embraced it what would you tell them to do I think they honestly in the they should do what I also should do and that just really take a good look at yourself and ask yourself what do I want my life to be is this what I want my life to look like all day just being depressed don&amp;#39;t feeling good about myself and then also ask yourself where is this coming from cuz sometimes you know people say oh I&amp;#39;m depressed but actually you&amp;#39;re just stuck to your phone glue to your phone that&amp;#39;s the only thing you do you watch stuff on social media you watch other people live and you&amp;#39;re letting your life go by when you have no purpose when you have nothing to give you will become depressed when you&amp;#39;re too much in your head you will become depressed cuz you have nothing to do other than other than to think all day mhm and that&amp;#39;s also I think my biggest issue that&amp;#39;s why I want to work because I feel like um with social media the blessing is money but the money gave me Comfort I don&amp;#39;t need to like work let&amp;#39;s say I upload let&amp;#39;s say once a month I don&amp;#39;t I don&amp;#39;t need to work for all the other days okay reading all these things but I like those things so what am I doing with my time I&amp;#39;m overthinking constantly I&amp;#39;m thinking I&amp;#39;m thinking I&amp;#39;m do thinking when I&amp;#39;m too much in my head I get sad MH because I create scenarios that are not there mhm same with those people are you busy enough also ask yourself that what what does your daytoday look like that&amp;#39;s where I would start like what does my day look like and what do I want my day to look like what do I want to happen in a year from now is that what you&amp;#39;re working on right now on yes yes cuz look at me like okay I have all these things do it&amp;#39;s almost like there guys there will never be an end goal never I know billionaires that are depressed MH so money is not the answer I think purpose is what are you doing with your time how are you spending your energy that&amp;#39;s the most important thing mhm would you say now at this age with all the knowledge you have all the healings you have done um trying to like heal yourself would you say you have healed from the abuse um I would say it doesn&amp;#39;t bother me or it it doesn&amp;#39;t distrupt my sleep or anything you know sometimes some triggers come up and I see some memories but I just let them happen um healed I don&amp;#39;t know what that looks like I don&amp;#39;t know what healed would be I think accepting that it&amp;#39;s a part of you yes MH and you move on yeah so you&amp;#39;ve just moved on from it I moved on I worked on it I I I addressed everything and then I move on because I also don&amp;#39;t want to keep living in the past I don&amp;#39;t want to keep bringing up those memories and giving them significance by thinking about them and making them bigger in my brain yeah I want my brain to understand that it&amp;#39;s the past now and now Liz needs to move on yeah did you always know you wanted to share your message on YouTube make the videos um not necessarily on YouTube I just knew that I wanted to help people I remember always saying that to my mom I want to help people and I never knew why mhm but I think somehow my soul already knew what was about to happen what was the intention when you started what you I just wanted to help people I just wanted to feel better about themselves or to change something that they needed change and that&amp;#39;s it so ever since you were young you already knew like this is what I want to yeah and it&amp;#39;s actually crazy because even in my school projects I would make like uh when we had to make a company I would make a company that&amp;#39;s about health helping people and they can get a therapist and all these things it was always like this it&amp;#39;s crazy being there for others yeah and that&amp;#39;s crazy cuz like I&amp;#39;m telling you it&amp;#39;s almost like my soul always knew so I was just acting out what was going to happen eventually did you expect um the millions of followers no no not at all what did you expect nothing really I thought I&amp;#39;m going to put up that first video no one&amp;#39;s going to watch it and I&amp;#39;ll delete it after after two weeks mhm that&amp;#39;s what I thought cuz I thought my lips looked ugly like too big oh really yeah and I refilmed it and then they were still too big so I was like oh no so then I was like let me turn off the comments so you turned off the comments on the first video yes there still turn off or I think so yeah really you know a lot of people have told you that that you have changed their lives how does that make you feel when someone comes up to you and like you know you&amp;#39;ve changed changed my life I&amp;#39;ve bettered my life because of you I mean that&amp;#39;s the that&amp;#39;s the only reason I keep going to be honest there the only reason that I keep going that that just there&amp;#39;s feeling I cannot describe mhm I can&amp;#39;t I cannot describe yeah you have like any memory of like something you remember a fan telling you you were like whoa yeah I I actually had this one girl that came up to me when I was sitting at a restaurant with my ex and uh we were eating and she was working in the hotel lobby and she came up to me and she was like hey are you the wizard L and I was like yeah I am she&amp;#39;s like um you saved my life and I like oh thank you so much I appreciate that and as she looked at me she&amp;#39;s like no but you don&amp;#39;t understand she&amp;#39;s like I turned 18 today and I would not have turned 18 if it wasn&amp;#39;t for you m and then uh yeah of course I started crying yeah that motivates you I think about her every day that&amp;#39;s like motivation to keep going it&amp;#39;s it&amp;#39;s not motivation and just feeling I cannot describe do you then realize like oh I actually sto people from yeah yeah she made me realize that did you need that to hear that yeah because I have this issue that I don&amp;#39;t take anything seriously mhm so I don&amp;#39;t understand I&amp;#39;m like a butterfly I&amp;#39;ll go through life not understanding anything for the most part I didn&amp;#39;t even understand why people were coming up to me wanting to take pictures I just see myself as whatever normal Liv you know and I never understood like the impact that I had until she came up to meh why do you think all these millions of people gravitate towards you especially I think because they see themselves in me and I just attracted like-minded people people that need to hear things the way that I speak them mhm you know obviously there&amp;#39;s a lot of people who really love your videos love your message you&amp;#39;ve changed a lot of people&amp;#39;s lives also there&amp;#39;s a tiny bit of negativity um tiny super tiny bit people have called you toxic self-centered uh even they went as far as diagnosed you with narcissism do you understand why people call you that yeah because I don&amp;#39;t think anyone is used to any self-love I think we have never been taught that we&amp;#39;ve ever since we were young been taught to care for others be nice to others do this for others but don&amp;#39;t say anything about yourself don&amp;#39;t do anything for yourself CU you&amp;#39;re vain you&amp;#39;re selfish all these things you know so then when I come onto YouTube and I talk into a mirror and call myself o I am mesmerizing everyone says oh she&amp;#39;s a narcissist she&amp;#39;s obsessed with herself no no there&amp;#39;s something wrong with you that you cannot look yourself into the mirror and say that you love yourself or that you&amp;#39;re beautiful but when you go onto someone else&amp;#39;s picture that&amp;#39;s the first thing you write oh you&amp;#39;re so beautiful oh my God I wish I looked like you how do you talk to yourself start with yourself first because everyone wants to say oh Liz is preaching this selfish lifestyle blah blah no I&amp;#39;m preaching that people shouldn&amp;#39;t get abused by people that take advantage of people Pleasers because that&amp;#39;s what I went through I&amp;#39;m not talking about being selfish because that&amp;#39;s the last thing I am I care for others but I have my boundaries certain things I do not accept if you have an issue with that then look into the mirror why do you have an issue with people having boundaries MH and same thing like oh yes she&amp;#39;s selfish all these things like you just get don&amp;#39;t get the mess message you get my message wrong do you think some people intentionally want to only see the wrong side and yeah I mean that&amp;#39;s what I said they love to build people up and tear them back down MH and that will happen in everyone&amp;#39;s life by the way when you start changing and when you start going to a Next Level and becoming better everyone around you will start telling you oh no that&amp;#39;s not good oh you Chang oh come back to down to our level to our level humble yourself who do you think you are you know that&amp;#39;s always happens when you start changing because now you&amp;#39;re being uncomfortable to them and you&amp;#39;re triggering them because you changing is showing them that they can do it too MH so now who do they have to blame themselves MH now you are making them look at themselves and that&amp;#39;s what people don&amp;#39;t want to do MH does that negativity get to you no because I don&amp;#39;t look at it and I honestly don&amp;#39;t think that I have that much negativity to be honest have mostly positive comments yeah so I don&amp;#39;t really and if it&amp;#39;s negative it&amp;#39;s good I don&amp;#39;t see these negative emotions or negative comments as something bad because that&amp;#39;s what needed to keep me going the good and the bad that&amp;#39;s how the world works that&amp;#39;s how everything works balance yeah the law of polarity you need the good and the bad in order to keep the world moving MH so I need bad comments and I need good comments because good comments mean that they realize something about themselves but bad comments mean I triggered them and when a trigger comes up that&amp;#39;s where you need to heal that cuz why are you triggered you know why are you triggered ask yourself why did this trigger me yeah are you comfortable being in the public eye in the spotlight I mean I&amp;#39;m just used to it now mhm um I would say my anxiety has gone up a little bit especially because I&amp;#39;m out and people ask for pictures and stuff I just avoid human interaction as much as possible which is really not good I need to change this but yeah so you would say you&amp;#39;re not comfortable oh if that that means then yes yeah well I&amp;#39;m comfortable when I&amp;#39;m speaking to my camera in my kitchen maybe it&amp;#39;s because I constantly have this you know they say when you had an abuse shelter that your amydala is really big and that&amp;#39;s your fight or flight mode so you constantly have this paranoia in your head so you&amp;#39;re scared constantly not scared but I I think it&amp;#39;s weird I think it&amp;#39;s weird oh okay so you&amp;#39;re not at a point where you just like accepted oh I&amp;#39;m this famous person no I have accepted that but for example if I go to the mall I still disguise myself so people don&amp;#39;t come up to me mhm would you say you&amp;#39;ve changed at all like from before the fame now after the fame are you still the same person um I mean I did change obviously I mean would be terrible if I didn&amp;#39;t change in 3 years I was just same person was three years ago like some people get famous they get money they become like you know no I don&amp;#39;t have my change on yet guys this is uh soon to come when you are in the public eye and people know you uh it&amp;#39;s hard you know to trust people I can imagine do you trust people I trust everyone at first oh well that&amp;#39;s dangerous yeah I&amp;#39;ve I&amp;#39;ve been in a lot of situations where I&amp;#39;m like wow no how do you how do you you make friends and uh of or even have a relationship without thinking oh are they in it for the wrong reasons I mean I have a very good intuition oh okay but I always almost always ignore it and but I was wow that&amp;#39;s so good of you because I always want to see the good in people yeah that&amp;#39;s an issue and I also need to work on that but my intuition always acts up and I I know then I&amp;#39;m like oh I knew this I knew this I felt this but I didn&amp;#39;t put in into action but the way I just say now I&amp;#39;m making friends for me I have people that I&amp;#39;m compatible with and I know what I look for in a friendship and that&amp;#39;s also the friendship that I want to cultivate and in a relationship I just um I never think about someone using me there&amp;#39;s nothing to use they&amp;#39;re not going to get anything from me cuz you don&amp;#39;t come out of your house yeah I just it&amp;#39;s so you don&amp;#39;t have a hard time trusting people I think I have a hard time not trusting people damn yeah the opposite I think I&amp;#39;m a little bit naive still like a child that&amp;#39;s dangerous in your position I know but that&amp;#39;s why I have people around me that don&amp;#39;t trust anyone yeah that&amp;#39;s good you should always someone like you who is like trusting everyone you should have someone who doesn&amp;#39;t trust anyone next to you do you think that people online see the real Liz the real you I think they see a part of me but they don&amp;#39;t see how funny I amh I think I think they do in some videos it&amp;#39;s but not really I mean and they don&amp;#39;t see like that I also have like a childlike character and not like I&amp;#39;m just sometimes I&amp;#39;m just different but most of the time I&amp;#39;m actually a very serious person to be honest yeah you are what would you say differences between the wizard Liz and Liz I think Liz just comfortable doing whatever she wants to do and I have a lot of am I bipolar well that&amp;#39;s for another interview with your therapist um what would you say your purposes in this life in this life I think my purpose is just to live my best life wow yeah really really to live my best life and show people that they can Doo M so always that help like always showing other people yeah and any anything I do I&amp;#39;m trying to help people yeah so do you feel like you&amp;#39;re fulfilling that purpose very living your best life think God is very pleased to me I think you&amp;#39;re you also should be very pleased with God I am good that&amp;#39;s good we&amp;#39;re grateful this turned into a Christian podcast yeah guys uh okay well I want to thank you so much for doing this interview thank you for having me I think we&amp;#39;re all curious to see the future for you I think you&amp;#39;re going to do very very big things like through the roof I&amp;#39;m going to go through the roof I&amp;#39;m going to go through the roof

Transcript for:Interview with The Wizard Liz

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Interview with The Wizard Liz