okay so I didn't plan on doing this yet but I was on a an interview uh a couple days ago and somebody asked me a question about this verse here in doctr and Covenants uh DNC 124: 28 and asked my opinion on what it meant and so I started going down the rabbit hole this and there's quite a rabbit hole and so I thought uh this interview hasn't aired yet yet as of today Sunday uh June 30th but uh I thought I would get ahead of that interview and record a video on the details of why I believe what I believe about DNC 12428 and uh you know I this is just my opinion um I did a document about a year ago uh as I started going down the rabbit hole and trying to understand what was what looking into church history and the scriptures to try to understand uh High priests and uh mic priesthood and and the meaning of this verse here uh and the verse says for there is not a place found on the earth that he may come and come to and restore again that which was lost unto you or which he hath taken away even the fullness of the priesthood okay now if you just sit on that verse for a minute restore again that which was lost unto you so in other words it's been restored once and now he's going to restore it again and you had it you had it and it was lost unto you okay uh so what is that um or with or which he hath taken away God took something away from us in in the restoration even the fullness of the priesthood okay and he's this this section is the Commandment to build the Kirland Temple okay and we can go down another verse for a baptism of font there is not upon the Earth and they my that they my Saints may be baptized for those who are dead for this ordinance belongeth to my house and cannot be acceptable to me only in the days of your poverty wherein ye are not able to build a house unto me but I command you all my Saints to build a house unto me and I grant unto you a sufficient time to build a house unto me and during this time your baptisms shall be acceptable unto me so they had a certain amount of time to build another V Temple and uh there were promises given um and the biggest promise here was he was going going to restore again that which was lost unto them even the fullness of the priesthood so the question is uh DNC 124 was uh in 1841 Joseph Smith ham Smith died in 1844 so um they're commanded to build and to finish the NAU Temple so that he can restore that which was lost unto them so the question that was asked to me in the uh interview that I did uh two days ago which has not been published yet was what does this mean what has been taken away what does it mean even the fullness of the priesthood so let's go through that let's talk about the fullness of the priesthood um this is the high priesthood this is the mesic priesthood and there's more to it than and most priesthood holders have a clue about that they know but it's right here in the scriptures for example Hebrews chapter 5 and no man taketh this honor unto himself but he that is called of God as was Aaron so also Christ glorified not himself to be to be made a high priest but he that said unto him Thou Art my son today have I begotten thee Christ was how did he receive the high priesthood how did he receive the mezc priesthood it says he was called of God and it says that he was told by his father Thou Art my son today have I begotten thee that's how he received it as he saith also in another place thou art a priest Forever After the order of mckisic who in the days of his flesh when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong cryingsad though he were a son yet learned he obedience by the things things which he suffered and being made perfect he became the author of Eternal salvation unto all them that obey him called of God and high priest after the order of milisic so Paul here is saying specifically that he was called of God this is not an order where you can just be called of man full disclosure I am a high priest in the LDS church I'm an ordained high priest in the LDS church and this investigation I've done is rather inconvenient for me at least what I found out now I'm totally cool with anybody else coming and telling me that I'm wrong in telling me why I'm wrong about this but let's um let's see does this mean that I as a high priest need to be called of God just as Christ was and just as mckisic was and was mckisic called of God so if you go into uh jst Genesis 14 we can read about milisic now mesic was a manif Faith who wrought righteousness and when a child he feared God and stopped the mouths of lions and quenched the violence of fire and thus having been approved of God he was ordained and high priest after the order of the Covenant which God made with Enoch it being after the order of the Son of God which order came not by man nor by the will of man neither by father nor mother neither by beginning of days nor end of years but of God and it was delivered unto man by his by The Calling of his own voice according to his own will unto his as many as believed on his name okay so this says this is not a priesthood that is inherited or passed down from father to son or father mother whatever it is something that is from God so that is why you have to be called of God to receive this priesthood and we hear about we see mezc he says he's a man of faith when a child childly Fe feared God and stop the mouth of lions and quench the violence of fire he worked with power this is this is the sealing power that we see that Nephi in the book of helan uh was given by God because he said I know you wouldn't ever do anything against my will and so he was able to uh ask for a famine and that happened he was able to do uh work many mighty mighty miracles in the name of God this is the order and this is what these are the works of somebody who has this High priesthood um I have wondered for years why this doesn't describe me or anybody else that I um have been acquainted with uh why why um and we can go on verse 30 for God having sworn unto Enoch and unto his seed with an oath by himself that everyone everyone being ordained after this order and calling should have power by faith to break mountains to divide the Seas to dry up Waters to turn them out of their course to put at Defiance the armies of Nations to divide the Earth to break every band to stand in the presence of God to do all things Accord according to his will according to his command subdue principalities and powers and this by this will of the Son of God which was from before the foundation of the world and men having this Faith coming up under this order of God were translated and taken up into heaven okay does any of this sound like what goes on in your high priest qu and I'm not being factious I'm actually asking um if everyone being ordained after this order is called to have this type of a power uh do we even in uh the the church do we even regularly have healings and casting out of devils um and do we have power to do mightier things as as Christ said this is this sounds very familiar because Jesus said um he said that those who follow him Greater Works would they do than him because he goes to his father and the works that he did as well obviously and the scriptures say um signs will follow those who believe in my name will they cast out Devils they will heal they will um take up uh snakes and not be hurt that type of a thing this is unique um it doesn't sound like many people that we know but we need this type of power because Satan rules with blood and horror on the earth at the moment we very much need this type of power to turn the the course of society um to put a def Defiance the armies of Nations uh to break every band um to stand in the presence of God all right so let's go and learn a little bit bit about this so as I did my investigation into the origins of the mckisic priesthood in the LDS church we are taught that the ironic priesthood was restored um in 1829 uh by John the Baptist and the mestic priesthood was restored uh sometime nebulously in maybe May of 1829 by Peter James and John but we have these interesting records uh that are in church history that uh give another account of the restoration of the high priesthood now there's a document that a year ago when I was investigating um I found many documents but there was a BYU Idaho record which I uh copied and pasted a bunch of stuff into a Google doc and I'll show you some of that here and there was another one um BYU Utah that uh that I'll show you as well and talks about uh the the restoration of metic priesthood in 1831 at the Isaac moley farm so we're going to go through some of that and uh this is new to a lot of people in fact uh year over a year ago I was sitting in my state president's office and we were talking about uh stuff and I he asked me some questions and I said well I don't think I have the high priesthood and he said well why wouldn't you think that you're a high priest and I said well do you know about the Isaac Morley Farm the conference of the Isaac Morley Farm in 1831 where uh Christ appeared where uh men were ordained by revelation and with power at that conference and he looks at me uh quizzically and says no I don't know what you're talking about and so I gave him some of this information that we're going to talk about here for the I mean he is the president of the high priest Quorum in my stake he is the president of my high priest quum and uh I would say the vast majority of members of the church probably 99 plus perc of them have never heard of this and for good reason it is uh not in the book Saints volume 1 it's not in uh the uh most of the documentation about uh the early church revelations in context which people use for preparing lessons it's not there um but it is documented and it's very very well documented if you ask any historian worth his salt um church historian even about this conference they will acknowledge that this happened and and that this is well documented and it's in a bunch of different journals so let's go and look at what happened so this uh first quote here is from history of the church volume 1 page 175 on the 3rd of June the elders from the various parts of the country where they were laboring came in and the conference before appointed conven in Kirtland and the Lord displayed his power to the most perfect satisfaction of the Saints the man of sin was revealed uh there was uh darkness and there they had to do a major casting out because um because Satan appeared at the time and the authority of the mestic priesthood was manifested and conferred for the first time upon several of the elders it was clearly evident that the lord gave us power in proportion to the work to be done and strength according to the race set before us and Grace to help us as our needs required great Harmony prevailed seever several were ordained Faith was strengthened and humility so necessary for the blessing of God to follow prayer characterized the Saints and we'll go on there's more this next one is the autobiography of Levi Hancock um and this is from uh byus what is that byus no idea um uh so he said the 4th of June came and we all met in a little string of buildings under the hill near Isaac Morley's in Kirtland uh Ohio there then we all went to a Schoolhouse on the hill Hill about 1/4 of a mile ascending nearly all the way the building was built of logs it was filled with slab benches here the elders were seated and the meeting was opened as usual Joseph Smith began to speak he said that the kingdom of Christ that he spoke of that was like a grain of mustard seed was now before him and some should see it put forth its branches and the angels of heaven would someday come like birds to its branches just as the Savior had said some of you shall live to see it come with great Glory some of you must die for the testimony of this work and he looked at Lyman white and said to him you shall see the Lord and meet him near the corner of the house and laid his hands upon him and blessed him with the visions of Heaven Joseph Smith then stepped out on the floor and said I now see God and Jesus Christ at his right hand let them kill me I should not feel death as I am now Joseph put put his hands on Harvey Whitlock and ordained him to the high priesthood or in other words to be a high priest John Coral wrote of this account in in the conference previous there was a revelation received requiring the prophet to call the Elders together that they might receive an endowment and and this was this is the same type of endowment that was that the Lord told the people um to go to Kirtland to go to the Ohio and there you shall receive an endowment part of that was at this occasion and another part of it was at the Kirtland Temple um around the time that it was dedicated so this was done and the meeting took place sometime in June about 50 Elders met which was about all the elders that then belong to the church this the meeting was conducted by Joseph Smith some curious things took place the same Visionary and marvelous Spirit spoken of before got hold of some Elders it threw one on the seat from his seat to the floor it bound another so that for some time he could not use his limbs nor speak and some other curious effects were experienced but by a mighty exertion in the name of the Lord it was exposed and shown to be from an evil source the mckisic priesthood was then for the first time introduced and conferred on several of the elders in this chiefly consisted the endowment it being a new order and bestowed Authority however now this is an endowment of power we are used to talking about going to the temple to take out our endowments whatever that means but these people actually received an endowment of power or um the power of God so the priesthood is the Authority and power of God and these people uh came to this conference and by Revelation some of them received an actual endowment of power um so it said and and a new order it being a new order and bestowed Authority however some doubting took place among the elders and considerable conversation was held on the subject the the elders not fairly understanding the nature of the endowment it took some time to reconcile all their feelings in a few days however a commandment was received for the elders to go to Missouri 2 by two no no two were to travel in the track of others and they were to preach the gospel by the way after a little delay we started okay parley P Pratt also wrote this on the 6th day of June 1831 a general conference was convened in Kirtland consisting of all the elders far and near who could be got together in this conference much much instruction was given by President Smith who spake in great power as he was moved by the Holy Ghost and the spirit of power and of testimony rested down upon the elders in a heart manner here also were some strange manifestations of false Spirits which were immediately rebuked several were then selected by Revelation through the Pres through president Smith and ordained to the high priesthood after the order of the Son of God which is after the order of mzd this was the first occasion in which this priesthood had been revealed and conferred upon the elders in this dispensation although the office of an elder in the same is the same to a certain degree but not in the fullness not in the fullness remember that um now also remember back in DNC 124 it says that which you have lost even the fullness of the priesthood so he's saying Elder is the same in a certain degree but not in the fullness but this priesthood which would restore is the fullness that's what parley P proud is saying on this occasion I was ordained to the to this holy ordinance and called by President Smith okay um and then we can go to the history of the church um and you can get this on gutenberg.org it's free um this is chapter 15 of history of the church Volume 5 this is page I think it's 554 55 to 556 anyway on the 3rd of June the elders from various parts of the country where they were laboring came in and the conference before appointed convenient Kirtland and the Lord displayed his power to the most perfect satisfaction of the Saints the man of sin was revealed and the authority of the meystic priesthood was manifested oh this is page 175 through 177 sorry that's a different one and the authority of the metic pries was manifested and conferred for the first time upon several of the elders it was clearly evident that the lord gave his power in proportion to the work to be done and strength according to the race set before us and Grace to help and help as our needs required great Harmony prevailed several were ordained Faith was rest strengthened and humility so uh so necessary for the blessings of God to follow prayer characterize the Saints um you remember we've talked several times about um the apostles after Jesus was was resurrected he said Terry here in Jerusalem until I send you an endowment of power from on high and we also remember that that was the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost and so act Acts chapter 1 says the endowment of powers the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost and Acts chapter 2 they receive uh the the um baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost they have the clo and tongues of fire come down upon them and they receive this endowment Jesus told them to wait for that endowment of power so that these uh Apostles these missionaries these um people of God uh could go out in power working miracles among the people this is the same thing that God has always wanted and has always commanded for everyone um is to receive an endowment of power from him in this case this is somewhat synonymous to rece receiving uh Power in the priesthood so uh it's the same it's still receiving the spirit and power we're going to read a little bit about that in a bit um a lot of people like to get the priesthood and the spirit um separated and mixed up as if they are different things and a little further on we're going to find out that they are uh mostly the same thing now we have here if you can see the footnote three and conferred for the first time upon several of the elders so footnote 3 whoever wrote history of the church wants to put in a little note here and then says here footnote three a misapprehension has risen in the minds of some regarding the statement the authority of the mckisic priesthood was manifest manifested and conferred for the first time upon several of the elders okay they feel the name to need to clarify this it has been supposed that this passage meant that the higher or mic priesthood was now for the first time conferred upon men in this dispensation this of course is an error since even before the church was organized the apostleship the highest Authority in the metic priesthood was conferred upon Joseph Smith and Oliver calry and very probably David Whitmer also the prophet does not mean that the milisic priesthood was given for the first time in the church it was at this conference however that the special office of high priest was for the first time conferred upon men in this dispensation except in so far as Apostles are are also High priests DNC 8463 oh boy there's there's a lot here and of course as there were men who had been ordained to this to the apostleship before this conference of June 1831 in that manner there had also been high priests in the church but not otherwise okay lots and lots and lots of confusion here doctrine of covenants says that Apostles are Elders very very clearly however there's a little conf confusion in DNC 8463 um and we're going to I guess we'll go there in a minute we'll go there in a minute we'll get back to that so let's keep going there's a BYU paper on Isaac the Isaac moley conference um and we're going to go there so I cut and paste out of chapter five of this this paper this is a BYU dissertation and uh so it was presided over by the BYU staff um so chapter 5 is the restoration of the office of high priest in the last dispensation so the guy who wrote this um tried to do the same clarification as the the authors of the history of the church he said just more than a year after the church Resto was restored the office of high priest was introduced beginning with Adam whenever the church has been in existence in its fullness there's fullness word again the office of high priest has been present all those who held the mckisic priesthood from Adam to Moses were ordained to this office when the children of Israel rejected the opportunity to have the same blessings as their fathers the blessings of this office were given only to select few I I mean I agree with that that was that was Moses he had the fullness that's why he was able to divide the Red Sea he had the sealing power he had the fullness when the light of the restoration dawned in the fullness of times priesthood along with its office was restored the office of high priest today is the same office held by prophets and Patriarchs of old oh is it we're going to find out so the restoration of the office of high priest in 1831 they're calling it The restoration of the office of high priest even though we very clearly read by several people that this is the first time that the milisic priesthood had been restored again I'm going to clarify that in the late spring of 1831 Joseph Smith held a conference in Kirtland Ohio without any known previous recorded Revelation directing the Prophet Joseph Smith to ordain individuals to the office of high priest the office was restored and bestowed upon more than 20 Elders Joseph Smith said the authority of the mesic priesthood was manifested and conferred for the first time upon several of the elders okay this is a quote Joseph says the authority of the mestic priesthood was manifested and confered for the first time that's pretty clear it was clearly evident that the lord gave us power in proportion to the work to be done and strength according to the race set before us and Grace to help us as our needs required okay but then he has to make this note here the prophet explanation of the events in Kirtland does not refer to the restoration of the meic priesthood doesn't it this restoration had taken place in 1829 did it rather it was a besto of the office of high priest among those men who had previously been ordained Elders in the milisic priesthood this fact has been disputed correct and I'm disputing it here um Elder BH Roberts explained the prophet's reference to the authority that was restored during this conference it has been supposed that this passage meant that the higher or mestic priesthood was now for the first time converted B men in this dispensation this is of course nrow since even before the church was organized okay so this is the same note from history of the church that we just read Because BH Roberts is the one who uh was the one who put together that particular version of the history of the church uh clearly Joseph Smith and others had received the mestic priesthood before the 1831 conference okay um is that clear we're going to find out uh before we start unraveling a lot of this I want to look at uh Revelations and context and I want to look at uh Saints volume 1 and see what they say about the this conference so let's first go and look at revelations in context okay now we are at we're in Gospel Library under ezrath and Isaac Morley so so gospel Doctrine teachers would use this to teach their class and here's what it says for early members of the church the summer of 1831 and this is the Isaac Morley farm this is where this happened began with a with high expectations an important conference was being held during the first week of June in the schoolhouse on Isaac Morley's farm near Kirtland we've read about that the room was crowded and many sat just outside the open Windows straining to hear the Summer Breeze carried the fragrance of fragrance of freshly harvested mint planted by the acre in the nearby Fields I love this detail Joseph Smith opened the conference with prayer fantastic at this Gathering the first ordinations to the high priesthood were performed okay cool several of the elders experienced spiritual manifestations including the casting out of evil spirits then near the close of the 4-day conference Joseph Smith received a revelation that spoke to the dearest hopes of the faithful who okay where's all the detail here let's even look at the at the first thing here these ordinations the high priest who refer to what later became known as the office of high priest within the mestic priesthood okay so that is all we get here we we're not there's a lot of detail there's a lot of journal entries there's a lot that happened here including the appearance of Jesus Christ there are precious few times that Christ appeared in the latter days to people especially to the church church and this is one of them this is not mentioned here but they do mention freshly harvested mint planted by the acre in the nearby fields and the Summer Breeze carrying the fragrance so fantastic okay let's let's look at another thing here okay maybe Saints volume 1 will have some better context okay so this is Saints volume 1 chapter 12 after much tribulation okay spring of 1831 uh scroll down here okay as the as the family cared for Liza her father attended an important Church conference at the schoolhouse near Morley Farm good deal he was gone several days and when he returned he told the family he had to leave again Joseph had received a revelation that he said that said the next conference would be held in Missouri several church leaders including her father were called to go there as soon as possible um there is nothing about this in Saints um nothing at all that's interesting um so why do we leave out this amazing appearance of the Lord um the restoration of the fullness of the priesthood as parle Pat said for the first time the fullness of the priesthood was here for the very first time in June of 1831 why is that being left out this is really important stuff kind of frustrating all right let's go on and let's look at the BYU Idaho links here so I told you a year ago I was investigating this and I found on BYU Idaho lots and lots of journal entries I think maybe seven different entries uh referred to this um the the restoration of of the milisic priesthood on the BYU Ido site I really appreciated whoever wrote that but as I went back today to look at it this is what I got HTTP 40 44.0 not found and I looked and I looked and I researched for that um on the by Idaho site and I could not find it and uh it does say the page is missing so I check for a save version and there you go so I can on uh archive.org I can find the article that I found a year ago but at the moment it is it doesn't exist on the BYU Idaho site and it's it's gone for some reason um let's just let's just hope that it's down coincidentally today and then it's going to come right back up all right let's go into some of the details here we had somebody quote DNC 8463 is proof that Apostles are high priests um and in the beginning of the of DNC 84 it says that Elders met and that the DNC 84 Revelation was to to to those elders but if you go look at the additional historical background that the church provides in the DNC student manual um this is chapter 31 and the highlighted thing here says uh doctrine of covenants 84 uh verse one suggests that six Elders were present in the as the dictation began but a note in an original handwritten copy of the Revelation indicates that 10 high priests were present during the latter part of the Revelation so uh you can go and look at DNC 8463 um where it seems to equate um Apostles to high priests even though the doctrine of Covenant clearly states that Apostles are elders and we're going to look into that further here but uh but this Revelation was actually DNC 84 was actually uh basically kind of in in multiple parts and to different people including High priests and interestingly enough DNC 84 which came uh over a year after uh this in September 1832 and the introduction of the doctrine of covenants 84 clarifies that this is a revelation on priesthood and we we go through things and they it shows how uh Moses sought to take the people up to get them to see the face of God and they wouldn't and so he took away the high priesthood now this would be the same high priesthood the mesic priesthood the fullness of the priesthood what what Moses had were he was able to divide the Red Sea and work many mighty Miracles and come up into the face up to the face of God and in the beginning of the DN c84 it tells us about that and it says because they rejected that and they only wanted Moses as a mediator he took away that high priesthood okay is this a for boing um it may be let's find out later on in DNC 84 it says and starting in verse um let's start in verse 53 I guess at the top and by this you may know the righteous from the wicked and the whole world granth under sin and darkness even now and your minds in times past have been darkened because of unbelief and because you have treated lightly the things you received which vanity and unbelief have brought the whole church under condemnation and this condemnation rest upon resteth upon the children of Zion even all oh my gosh the whole church the whole church even those who were high priests at the time um that had been high priest for a year had come under condemnation in DN c84 a year later and they shall remain under this condemnation until they repent and remember and remember the New Covenant even the Book of Mormon and the former Commandments which I have given them not only to say but to do according that to that which I have written that they may bring forth fruit meat for the father's Kingdom otherwise there remaineth a Scourge and a judgment to be poured out upon the children of Zion for shall the children in the of the Kingdom pollute my Holy Land verely I say unto you nay the Lord here is saying look I'm not going to redeem Zion Zion until you repent um your minds are darkened because of unbelief and you treated things lightly and you and the whole rest of the world grown under sin and darkness even now in Alma chapter 13 when it's describing High priests it describes them as men who couldn't look upon sin say it were with abhorrence um and he talks about those men who are high priests who were called from the foundation of the world and were able to do the works of God just like milisic um and so these are not uh men who oh yeah you're going to be made a high counselor and so we need to ordain you to the office of a high priest now that's not how it goes it has to be by God he knows your righteousness and uh this is by Revelation so we have an article of faith that says we believe that uh man must be called a prophecy by prophecy and Revelation by the laying out of hand by those who are in Authority so prophecy and Revelation if you are called by God to this order of the priesthood it has to be done by prophecy and Revelation that's actually exactly what happened at the Isaac morly Farm we could dig into that more if we wanted to but those who were ordained high priest at that time were done so by Revelation the the first person that was ordained was lman white and my understanding is the second person who was ordained was Joseph Smith so Joseph ordained Ed him to be a high priest and then he ordained Joseph to be a high priest Joseph and Oliver calary were ordained to be elders and apostles by Peter James and John so what is the distinction there um is there a distinction there did Peter and James and John restore the fullness of the of the meic priesthood according to parley P Pratt they did not according to parley P Pratt the fullness of the priesthood was restored at the Isaac mle Farm in June of 18 31 all right um so what's going on uh the Saints are commanded to go to the Ohio they're commanded to uh get an endowment of power and then all of a sudden In 1832 when we have the fullness of the priesthood has been restored the fullness of the mesic priesthood we have people who are ordained to be high priests um and then a year later um the Lord puts the church under condemnation it's there in DNC 84 it's inconvenient kind of sucks that we have a revelation that says we're under condemnation and it would be really nice if we had another Revelation that said we are we've come out of condemnation but Ezra Benson president Benson in 1980 whatever said that we remain under condemnation and that we're still treating lightly The Book of Mormon and remember DN c84 says not only to say but to do what does the Book of Mormon teach us to do it teaches us that we must be born again of the spirit it teaches us that we may must become new creatures it teaches us that we must repent of all of our sins and forsake them so if we still remain under condemnation it is because and if we and the evidence should be have you truly been born again have you been baptized by power with fire and the Holy Ghost do you do the works of Christ and you manifest by your fruits that you have been born again if not you remain under condemnation and there's work to be done is that a is that a terrible thing well it's a good thing if you realize that you are under condemnation because it helps you to realize oh all is not well in Zion and there's more for me to do and then the Lord can teach you but if you say no all is well in Zion Zion Prosper all is well and you know I know it says we're under condemnation but we still have a fullness well how is that how do we have a fullness if we're under condemnation those two things can't coexist you're either you either have a fullness or you're under condemnation you can't have those at the same time now it's interesting that the church uh mysteriously in uh I think 1834 they had another conference and uh Joseph presided and they changed the name of the church to the Church of the the Latter-Day Saints and you can still see that in the Kirtland Temple now knowing what we know about uh the Lord telling the Nephites um that uh you know how can it be my church sa it be uh in my name and then all of a sudden the name of the Lord is taken off of his church for um a few years and it's the Church of the latterday Saints and it was the Church of Christ before why is it the Church of the latterday Saints and and I don't know who who says this they they say well it's because of there are other Church Churches of Christ no you don't just say oh yeah well let that be the Church of Christ and will be the Church of the latterday Saints no um and at the Kirtland dedication Joseph pleaded with the Lord to put put his name back upon the church oh so we actually want the name of the Lord on the church yes we do so and we do get into Revelation that says that in the last days thus shall be the name of my church even the Church of Jesus Christ of latterday saints so that's the Lord um prophesying prophesying that that should be the name of the church in the last days um now the question is do we have a fullness um at least in the mid 1830s we can see that they didn't have the fullness and the lord's name was taken off the church and we were under condemnation at that point now um let's talk a little bit about Brigham Young this is interesting so in 1853 Salt Lake City April 6th General Conference Brigham Young starts out his address called It's called The Temple cornerstones and the apostleship ETC he said now will it will it cause some of you to Marvel that I was never ordained a high priest before I was ordained an apostle brother Kimble and myself were never ordained High priests how wonderful what he says they were not ordained High priests well we do know from the Isaac Morley Farm conference that Brigham Young and heby Kimble were not on the list of those who were ordained High priests so why is Brigham Young saying this at the beginning of his conference talk he says after our conversation was over in the council some of the Brethren began to query and said we ought to be ordained High priests at the same time I did not consider that an apostle needed to be ordained a high priest an elder or a teacher I did not express my views on the subject at that time but I thought I would hear what Brother Joseph would say about it it was William E mclelan who told Joseph that I and Hebrew were not ordained High priests and wanted to know if it should not be done said Joseph will you insult the priesthood is that all the knowledge you have of the office of an apostle do you not know that the man who receives the apostleship receives all the keys that ever were or that can be conferred upon mortal man what are you talking about I am a astonished nothing more was said about it I know that Joseph received his apostleship from Peter James and John before a revelation on the subject was printed and he never had a right to organize a church before he was an apostle okay this is fascinating briam y says that an apostle has everything he says that Joseph was an ordained ordained the apostleship by Peter James and John and I don't disagree with that I totally agree with that Peter James and John ordained him to be an elder and an apostle just the same as briam young so the question is why was Joseph ordained a high priest in 1831 if he already had the fullness Brigham Young says that Joseph said and I don't believe it but he said that Joseph said do you not know that the man who re receives the apostleship receives all the keys that ever were or that can be conferred upon mortal man is that is that true or is Brigham Young a little defensive here um why was the milisic priesthood the fullness of the mckisic priesthood which parley Patt again said the fullness had never existed in until 1831 why did a fullness need to come if as Brigham Young claims they already had a fullness that doesn't make any sense this is a very curious talk here um I think as briam was the the new prophet of the church there were people saying Brigham's only an elder he doesn't even have the high priesthood and so this talk is him probably being just a slightly bit defensive about that but I will let um the scriptures and history um and I'll let you decide what the truth is here so again let's go to DNC 124 for there is not a place found this now this is 1841 okay so we remember it was Church of the Latter Day Saints in 1834 1835 1836 1837 there were strivings and jarring and and contention among the people Zion was not redeemed um there was mass apostasy in the late 1830s um including a lot of um Apostles there was there were a lot of problems and then in Dean 84 this is where they've come back to navu they've been kicked out of Missouri uh Zion is an afterthought at this point but they come to navoo and Joseph receives this Revelation that they need to build the navoo temple and the Lord says for there is not a place found upon the Earth that he may come to and restore again that which was lost unto you was there something lost we do know we we talked about the church is under condemnation at this point the church did have Christ's name taken off of it um the question is in 1831 if the fullness of the high priesthood the mckisic priesthood was restored in 1831 is that what is it's talking about here restore again that which was lost unto you or which he hath taken away even the fullness of that priesthood and we've heard that in lots of quotes that this is the fullness and he says in verse 31 but I command you all my Saints to build a house unto me and Grant you sufficient time to build a house unto me okay so he's commanding them and he's telling them build that house and I will restore the fullness of the priesthood that you have lost and we'll read more about this okay two years later August 27th 1843 Prophet Joseph Smith um this this talk I believe it's conference uh the priesthood expounded this is from history of the church Volume 5 Pages 554 through 556 respecting the mesic priesthood the sectarians never professed to have it consequently they never could save anyone and would all be damned together there was an Episcopal priest who said he had the priesthood of Aaron but had not the priesthood of mesc and I bear testimony that I have never found a man who claimed the mesic priesthood the priesthood of mesc the power of mesic priesthood is to have the power of endless lives for the Everlasting Covenant cannot be broken the law was given under Aaron for the purpose of pouring out judgments and destructions okay I have a previous video that I did on uh rending the veil and I talk in that video about the um law of Moses and the ironic priesthood and how that is a priesthood of uh cursing and uh judgment and it and Paul refers to that priesthood as uh a um as the ministration of death so Joseph goes on the sectarian world are going to Hell by hundreds by thousands and by millions there are three granddaughters of priesthood referred to here wait a second I thought it was just ironic and mestic now we're going to learn something first the first order of the priesthood the king of Salem had power and authority over that of Abraham who's that that's mizic holding the key and the power of endless life Angels desire look into it but they have set up too many Stakes God cursed the children of Israel because they would not receive the last law from Moses oh interesting the sacrifice required of Abraham in the offering up of Isaac shows that if a man would obtain to the Keys of the Kingdom of an endless life he must sacrifice all things when God offers a blessing or knowledge to a man he and he refuses to receive it he will be damned the Israelites prayed that God would speak to Moses and not to them in consequence of which he had cursed them with the carnal law hint hint hint hint hint this is the same thing that's talked about in DNC 84 uh what was the power of mzc it was not the priesthood of Aaron which administered in outward ordinances and of offering of sacrifices the those holding the fullness of the mestic priesthood again there's fullness right are Kings and Priests of the most high God holding the keys of power and blessings in fact that priesthood is a perfect law of theocracy and stands as God to give laws to the people administering endless lives to the Sons and Daughters of Adam Abraham says to kzdc I believe all thou Hast taught me concerning the priesthood and the coming of the son of man so mzc ordained Adam and sent him away Abraham rejoiced saying now I have a priesthood salvation could not come to the world without the med mediation of Jesus Christ how shall God come to rescue to the rescue of this generation he will this is 1843 he will send Elijah the prophet he's talking about a future event he will send Elijah the prophet well I thought that was was 1836 well uh DNC 110 was was 1836 but this Joseph Smith here is saying that Elijah is going to come again to rescue this generation the law revealed to Moses in horb never was revealed to the children of Israel as a nation Elijah shall reveal the covenants to seal the hearts of the fathers to the children and the children to the fathers the anointing and sealing is to be called elected and to make made sure so your calling election made sure and we used to talk about this in the church um once you're baptized with f fire and the Holy Ghost um you are in the gate and then you are to be on the path to eternal life and to make your calling election made sure this is done under the uh the priesthood so he's quoting here without father without mother without descent having neither beginning of days nor end of life life but made like unto the Son of God abideth a priest continually the mckisic priesthood holds the right from the Eternal God and not by descent from father or mother and that priesthood is as Eternal as God himself having neither beginning of days nor end of life so one of the ways that you can tell if you have the milisic priesthood and the real high priesthood is whether if that is something that you've gotten from um a man and not by prophecy and revelation then you don't have the highest order of the priesthood because that's very clear we've read a lot about this in in this presentation here it's very clear that the highest degree the fullness of nistic priesthood has to come from a calling from God himself and that can be administered by another high priest um through prophecy and Revelation But ultimately it comes by the power and the inspiration and revelation of God okay Joseph goes on the second priesthood is patriarchal Authority whoa uh patriarchal priesthood um we don't talk about that in the church we just talk about mckisic and ironic but Joseph says here the second priesthood is patriarchal Authority now when he's talking about patriarchal Authority um and I don't have time to go into this and I haven't made any slides on this either but patriarchal would be something that is handed down from father to son so you could as a uh having that patriarchal Authority you could ordain your son to that Authority and whether or not they have power in that it's up to them okay so he says go to and finish the temple and God will fill it with power go to and finish the temple he's talking about the new navu Temple this is 1843 2 years after DNC 124 and he says if you finish the temple God will fill it with power and you will then receive more knowledge concerning this priesthood okay did this happen did this happen in the navu temple did he fill it with power and did receive more knowledge concerning this patriarchal priesthood or even the high the highest priesthood um I'll leave you to answer that question the third is what is called the levitical priesthood consisting of priest who minister in outward ordinances made without an oath but the priesthood of mckisic is by oath and a covenant the Holy Ghost is God's Messenger to administer in all those priesthoods very interesting he said says this and I think I got a slide on this I do um down here at the bottom morona chapter 3 says something very interesting um they're talking about those who are called to be priest teachers um and it says in verse four and after this manner did they ordain priest and teachers according to the gifts and callings of God into men and they ordained them by the power of the Holy Ghost which was in them now I have another video you can go watch if you want to um from a couple months ago and it talks about priesthood um the spirit and Harry Potter and we talk about the Holy Ghost a lot in that um and the Holy Ghost a lot of people want to separate the holy ghost from the priesthood and say that those are very different things but they are not and Joseph is linking them very very tightly here the Holy Ghost is God's Messenger to administer in all those priesthoods how do you have power in the priesthood through the Holy Ghost Okay so we're going to move on okay so this is and you probably can't see that let me see if I can zoom up a little bit here um chat GPT so I was just curious um if I asked chat GPT what were the three levels of priesthood that Joseph Smith taught chat GPT responded Joseph Smith taught about three distinct orders or levels within the priesthood these are the milisic priesthood the ironic priesthood and the patriarchal priesthood here's a detailed description of each and then it it it does an okay job um of putting these together but just so you know this is not um some obscure thing um Joseph did teach this and there are three orders of the priesthood and the middle order uh being an elder um and patriarchal priesthood uh being able to receive that by the laying out of hands without uh prophecy um is something very very different than the fullness of the isic priest uh by which you were able to uh put at Defiance the armies of Nations and quench the violence of fire and stop the mouths of lions and do all kinds of and and divide the Seas and work many mighty Miracles and that's that is the real sealing power that that milisic priesthood and those signs should follow those who have that priesthood um anyway is it was curious and interesting that chat gbt um doesn't have any problem with it and I I did some other queries through that and it it dug in and gave all kinds of quotes about that so you can do that if you want to uh to learn more not that chat GPT is an authority because it is not in fact chat GPT is terrible it gets all kinds of things wrong um for example um if chat gbt at first thought that briam was a high priest and then I'm then I said I don't think he is and he goes oh no you're right he he wasn't um and yeah he wasn't a a high priest in 1853 when he gave that that talk and it says uh yeah it's there's no good references to for if and when bamy was ever ordained to be a high priest I finally got out to admit that but chat GPT is really sketchy for historical information so I'm not using this as an authority I'm just saying that at least even chat GPT which is is pretty dumb when it comes to history um has this figured out okay back to 124 restore again that which is lost unto you which you have taken away even fullness the priesthood was that restored in NAU uh let's go further on in in 124 and I will show unto my servant Joseph all things pertaining to this house this is navoo this is the temple and navoo and the priesthood thereof and the place whereon it shall be built and ye shall build on it it on the place where you have contemplated building it for it is a spot which I have chosen for you to build it if you labor with all your might I will consecrate that spot that it shall may be made holy and if my people will hearken unto my voice and unto the voice of my servants who I have appointed to lead my people that be Joseph and hyam in this very revelation behold verely I say unto you they shall not be moved out of their place what does that mean they shall not be moved out of their place the people will not be moved out of their place if they hearken unto his voice were the people moved out of their their place well I know for sure Joseph and hyam were were the Saints well yeah they were kicked out of navu and they were kicked out of NAU before it was before the temple was dedicated so something happened here so um it says in verse 46 but if they will not hearken under my voice nor under the voice of those men who I have appointed Joseph and ham again they shall be not not be blessed because they pollute mine holy grounds and my holy ordinances and Charters and my holy Words which I give unto them and it shall come to pass that if you build a house under my name and do not do the things which I say I will not perform the oath which I have made unto you neither fulfill the promises which you expect at my hand sayith the Lord for instead of blessings ye by your own Works bring cursings wrath indignations and judgments upon your own heads by your Foles and by your Abominations which you practice before me sayith the Lord that sounds a lot like the uh ironic or levitical priesthood which Joseph said that judgments come through the lower priesthood now we're used to reading the book of Mormon and going oh um and and the Old Testament and we know that when the people were Wicked what happened to them they got scattered what happened to the people in NAU were they moved out of their place or were they scattered did they did they remain under condemnation or did they stay under condemnation did they um did they have power in restored in the temple as Joseph said or did they not um did they receive a fullness of the priesthood in the navoo temple or did they not did God manifest himself in the navu temple like he did in the Kirtland Temple or did he not so here are some questions for you was an NAU Temple finished um and you could go just look up look ask ask chat GPT that in chat gbt will tell you that it was not was the NAU Temple filled with power as Joseph prophesied if they would finish it um there are no records of that at all why does the elas church completely eliminate one of the most powerful spiritual manifestations including the visitation of Jesus Christ and the restoration of the meystic priesthood from Saints volume 1 and Revelations and context U why do we not have uh that in our history there's a lot that is missing from Saints volume 1 there's a lot of context and Revelation in context if it's in context please give us some context why do we not have that another question if briam young didn't need to be ordained a high priest why was Joseph Smith ordained if Brigham Young like he said um already had all the keys that were necessary for salvation why did Joseph receive further keys after the church was restored in 1831 um yeah if the church came under condemnation In 1832 and still is under condemnation why do we claim to have a fullness today do we have a fullness of the priesthood or do we not if we are still under condemnation to today do we really have a fullness of the priesthood or are we missing that highest level of the mckisic priesthood you can answer that um answer that if you were to guess which of the three levels of priesthood do we operate under today and that's just for you to to think about now like I said I am an ordained high priest in the LDS church and this investigation for me is rather inconvenient but as I've read the scriptures and as I've noticed that signs don't follow follow me and that there were over the years have been many things that uh um about me and my lack of power that uh that were concerning to me and you compare Elma 13 where it says that the high priest that of the order of mestic priesthood could only look upon sin with abhorrence is that where we are with high priest today with mckisic priest with those who are given the quote unquote mezic priesthood do they look upon sin with abhorrence have they repented of all their sins do they walk with power in the in the priesthood and do they have a fullness of the Holy Ghost if not are we still under the condemnation that it says in DNC 84 that we take lightly The Book of Mormon uh not only to say but to do according to its teachings I would submit that if you haven't had a baptism of fire in the Holy Ghost that there is no way that you have the fullness of the mckisic priesthood I'm very very happy for somebody to prove me wrong on anything here and I'm happy to have another conversation there are lots of people out there um that say lots of things about um how Brigham Young was able to get a fullness of the priesthood without being a high priest and yet um you can't get that from the scriptures and there's some spous sources that seem to contradict um everything that we have talked about today the Isaac moley Farm restoration of the priesthood is not uh something that is talked about by one person and hidden in a corner it is hidden in a corner but it was talked about by lots of people by the mouth of two or three Witnesses shall every reward be established that was established by lots of people and it's there in in church history and it's very inconvenient um but it encourages me because I would love to uh realize that I need to do something more to receive from God and to be called of God to receive the higher priesthood at some point and that's something that um that I believe that people uh will receive after they are through the gate and have received a baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost and um have um repented of all their sins and have come unto Christ and submitted themselves uh like Abraham and so anyway these are my thoughts on on priesthood um it's pretty well documented in history and uh it's interesting that if we if the church is is being straight up about the high pried why are we hiding these historical sources and why is why is the information that I saw on BYU Idaho site uh now taken down why the Saints volume one not talk about this at all it's important um I think we should talk about it so be happy for your comments and happy for any clarification I certainly don't know anything but this is something that I've been sitting on from a document for more than a year and uh I guess it's time to talk