hello and welcome to this London Westminster middle sex Family History Society talk about where people who lived in the area covered by the ancient Parish of Edmonton might have been buried Edmonton was historically an ancient Parish in the county of Middlesex and it now forms part of the London burrow of Enfield Edmonton Parish included the District of Arnold Grove Bose Park Bush Hill Park Edmonton green lower Edmonton new Southgate part of Oakwood Palmer's green Southgate upper Edmonton and winchmore Hill if you had ancestors who died here then they may well have been buried in the churchyard surrounding the original Parish Church of All Saints on Church Street the church is first mentioned in the year 1136 when it was granted to Walden Abbey in Essex so parishioners are likely to have been laid to rest in the churchard surrounding All Saints from at least this time however the burial registers only date from 1558 to 1954 and these are held at the London archives with copies online at ancestry anybody mentioned in these burial registers will have been buried in the graveyard surrounding the church wealthier parishioners will have had their burial places marked with a gravestone the inscriptions were recorded about 40 years ago by the London and North Middle sex Family History Society one of our founder societ societies and produced on microfish these microfish are available at our local archive centers and we will be bringing out an updated version in booklet form in due course do contact us if you would like to help with this you can email us on projects at lwm fh.org an earlier recording of the Monumental inscriptions compiled by mpate is available as a manuscript book at Enfield local studies and archives and Fred te Kik published his version in 1875 in the book a collection of curious and interesting epitaphs copied from the existing monuments of distinguished and noted characters in the churches and churchyards of hornsey Tottenham Edmonton Enfield fre and Barnett and Hadley Middle sex which can be seen online at archive.org as the population of the ancient Parish increased various daughter churches were built but only a few had their own burial grounds the first of these was the W Chapel at Southgate as All Saints Church was over 3 miles away Southgate resident Sir John weld built a small Chapel on his estate for use by his family of course it was more convenient for his neighbors too this Chapel was consecrated in 1615 on condition that all worshippers there took communion at All Saints at Easter and that the Vicor of Edmonton should consent to baptisms and marriages there a District chapelry was assigned in 1851 but the chapel was demolished in 1862 and replaced the next year by Christ Church Southgate burial registers of the W Chapel which date from 1695 to 1812 are held in the collection of All Saints at the London archives and online at ancestry you can still see the footprint of the well Chapel in the churchyard to the west of Christ Church which is shown in the photograph here it is now used for the burial of Ashes the burial register of Christ Church date from 1813 to 1939 so presumably they just continued to use the unfinished register book which was started by the well Chapel in 1813 there are still gravestones surrounding Christ Church whose dates show that these people were buried following a service in the W Chapel these two for instance the one on the left is to Edward lass and is dated 1718 and no one on the right from 1683 commemorates the life of Rebecca SCH rly there are memorials inside Christ Church which were transferred there from the Chapel to since Michael at Bose also in Southgate was formed from the parishes of Southgate and St michaelwood Green in 1874 the burial registers date from 1889 to 1905 the church was demolished in 1987 and a new one built on a smaller footprint on the same site on the corner of wittington and palston Roads there is a little land surrounding the church but no sign of a graveyard I have not been able to find out that any burials were removed when the new church was built so perhaps this is a case where Services were held here and people buried elsewhere do let us know if you know there are a number of non-conformist burial grounds in Edmonton the Society of friends or Quakers has a burial ground at winchmore Hill which has been in continual use since 1684 and contains over 1,000 Graves it surrounds their meeting house at Church Hill records for those buried in the older upper part dated 1684 to 1821 are incomplete partly because Quakers did not always use headstones but good records exist for the lower part when headstones were allowed it was decided that they should all be the same of small stature and only have inscribed the name age and date of death of the deceased the graves are arranged in a grid system and can be seen in this picture the letters of the grid are carved into the North and South walls winchmore Hill Quakers can be contacted regarding burials here via their website Bishops transcript copies of the burial registers dated 1865 to 1893 are at the London archives and online at ancestry the Edmonton and Tottenham congregational Chapel opened in 1788 on the east side of four Street in Upper Edmonton near the Tottenham boundary it included a burial yard which was in use from 1792 to 1837 a much larger Chapel was built on John snail's estate between Lang Hedge Lane and Park Road in 1850 with the old chapel being used as a school room it continued to be used as such until the 1960s burial registers from 1792 to 1826 are at the London archives and ones dated 1821 to 1837 are at the National Archives both registers are online at ancestry and the later one also being on B MD registers find my past and the genealogist our sister Society West Middle sex Family History Society brought out a CD of London and middl sex burials which includes transcriptions of 58 burials from the Edmonton and Tottenham congregational Chapel dated 1792 to 1809 and 1826 there was another independent Chapel at Hoppers Road in winchmore Hill the burial register here dates from 1831 to 1832 only but be seen online at the four websites mentioned previously the Great Northern Railway company bought the land the chapel was on in 1869 for their Railway and so presumably dug up the burial ground the chapel moved to Compton Road where it remains to this day many Urban Church yards were full to overflowing by the middle of the 19th century and new Municipal burial grounds had to be provided by the time of the 1853 burial act almost all burials took place in these new cemeteries Edmonton Cemetery was set up by Edmonton burial board and opened in Church Street Edmonton in 1884 it is administered and owned by the London burough of Enfield to find information about a grave you can email cemeteries at enfield.ct £254 Southgate cemetery is near to Christ Church in waterfall Road Southgate it opened in about 1880 and covers some 13 acres again it is administered and owned by Enfield so email cemetries [Music] 1890 to 2015 which can now be searched online you need the exact name of the deceased but the search results include a map showing position of the Grave if you are unsure of your information or do not have enough data for a formal search the burial index can be browsed the Jewish gen.org website has links to these searches Tottenham Park Cemetery is a private Cemetery which opened in 1912 and is again at montue Road next door to the Jewish cemetery it is apparently now the largest Turkish Cemetery in the UK the cemetery has been much neglected in recent decades a new owner took over in 2023 with the aim of repairing and restoring the space however new burials have now been halted as it was found that the burial process was disturbing remains from previous interments registers are held at the cemeter which can be searched by contacting them details are on their website at Tottenham park.co P there is a £45 fee if you want to find out more about people who lived and died in the ancient Parish of Edmonton and its districts we have produced a handy Parish research guide which could be brought through links on our website at www. lwm fh.org if you had ancestors here we are the local Family History Society why not join us we'd love to have you details again at our website thank you for listening goodbye